00:00:00 Nathan Ruff you're a Serial entrepreneur since the age of 12 and the founder of the one n web agency you said you have three major goals in life to ensure everyone on Earth has access to clean water to provide enough value that you achieve a billion dollar net worth and to run for president in 2052 and win uh you're now writing a book titled the art of trying as a unique way to inspire others uh to go for their goals and not overthink success Nathan welcome to the podcast thanks for having me yeah so um you're a

00:00:34 local guy there's not a lot of us walking the streets anymore uh where where did you grow up in Nashville so I grew up in Belleview next to Loveless Cafe okay um and lived there until I was 18 and then uh just have now lived all over Nashville like every zip code I feel like okay and you said you were you were homeschooled um what was what was like being homeschooled in Nashville yeah I mean I uh there's a lot of people there's a lot of ways to do it right um there were in our neighborhood that did

00:01:01 it really right um my parents I don't think planned to homeschool me and then they ended up homeschooling me and so like the way to do it right is like get your kid involved in sports and get them involved in other homeschoolers and so like I was just very like secluded and sheltered and just kind of like here's books um and uh thankfully I found the internet at a young age um and uh you know I learned to Cod at a young age and uh I learned to make money online I mean I remember I built my first um Ecom

00:01:28 website when I was 16 and we were doing sits figures by the time I was 17 so like i' I was selling stuff on eBay when I was 12 like I'd always kind of you know I felt like our life Su because we were poor um and that's not true but that's how I how I thought at least and so I was like oh I'm I'm going to change that and so I saw the internet is this way to like kind of level up everything um and I would meet like you know somebody that went to NBA or a girl that went to harith Hall and they would tell

00:01:54 me like oh if you're not going to Navy League school you'll never be anything and I was like no I think like I I think I got this I think the internet's way better and bigger than you can possibly fathom yeah absolutely uh so you were saying you didn't have a lot of money growing up I was the same and uh you know I did have this desire to not have the struggles that I saw my my parents go through had great parents but uh they definitely struggled for a long time um how much did that uh affect you so you

00:02:26 know like my dad would always say like you know money won't make you happy and I I just remember thinking like yeah well either we're being poor you know like it's like there's just like a little bit of common sense that people apply to these like um uh like I I have this favorite joke of like uh money won't make you happy but i' rather cry in a Ferrari um and it's like uh I just feel like most problems are solved with money and so so for me it was like I just felt like all the problems we were

00:02:53 facing like I got to see I have two grandparents that both live in Texas they now passed away but and I would get to see him every other year because uh and even though like they were two hours from each other but it's like well once a year we'd go see a grandparent yeah because I you know either my dad couldn't get off work or didn't have the money to like go see boat you know I don't know the whole story but as a kid I was like oh I guess we just can't afford it you know and and so I I just remember

00:03:16 thinking my my dad told me this like my entire life like you know being like making money won't solve anything and I just kind of ignored it and then when I made money I was like yeah I was right like life is way better when somebody cleans my house and I live in a nice home and I drive a nice car and my wife gets us to be a stay-at-home mom with our kids and right we to go travel the world like life is way better this way and like what we're able to do as far as like the organizations we partner with

00:03:39 between the employees that we decide to to you know Elevate their pay in their lives like what we're able to do with it is like if you want to make a change you got to make a lot of money and and all these entrepreneurs say that it's like a very you know Common cliche thing but um when when you just like you know for me we just signed some baller clients and we're like okay I now like you know because there's always other levels you know um I remember when I got my McLaren I thought like I was doing pretty well and um my my client

00:04:09 showed me his four Ferrari f40s which are about three million bucks a piece I was like all right cool yeah and so you know it's not like um there's obviously a certain amount of money where it's like the more to it doesn't really change anything but I definitely think uh money is a great motivator and not a bad thing to be driven by um you know because like if you're not a con honest yeah you're just not going to con people right like you could be a poor con artist there's probably a lot of very

00:04:32 poor con artists yeah U that's just a frame of mind like they con people for a living yeah you I mean I uh one of my mentors Lloyd Irvin said uh money solves all problems not having money costs and it's like if you think about that you know there's a lot of problems that lack of money cause and it's definitely not everything but um it definitely makes life uh a lot easier and you know as an entrepreneur at least my experience you know almost been bankrupt multiple times and um you know that lack of money even

00:05:05 there caused a problems it's like gosh if we had this we could do X Y and Z I think those help mold our business and kind of molded us into better business people uh able to relate to people a lot more but um you know there is definitely something to that that said uh you know I do Wonder like I I don't have kids yet but when I do have kids uh I want them to work and I want them to struggle because I feel like we grow them most when we you know when we have those struggles and obstacles yeah but how do

00:05:34 you create that is like the the million-dollar question I'm going to Mastermind uh group called Hampton if you've heard of it and the average like revenue of somebody in Hampton is 42 million uh of people that apply only 8% get in or get an offer to join and it's not like super expensive it's just exclusive and a well vetted crew and there's people in there that are you know uh there's lots of ninef figure people in there and this is like a common discussion in the slack ch channel is like why do we you know cuz

00:06:02 it's like um I don't know if if we're like you know the the whole idea of like it doesn't teach a kid anything if you fly to Japan in first class and he flies and Coach it really doesn't that's not like you know like all my drive comes from like consistently things sucking but you don't want to like consistently you know set things up to suck you know I found in Nashville there's uh I've met a lot of trust fun kids um you know Vanderbilt here they just exist and and a lot of them are are really great people as far as really

00:06:36 kind but just not driven like make money or build a company or make a change in society and and that's what I'm trying to change it's like I don't care if my son's like a nice person there but it's like he's so friendly I care if he like mates waves um and that's something that's innate uh I mean for me I've always felt like if God put me on this Earth I'm doing a disservice to my beliefs by not getting after it sure absolutely so I hope my kids can hopefully Empower that and I and I share this a lot with the goal that they start

00:07:05 to believe that too yeah absolutely I mean you know for me when I when I do have kids I was a professional fighter and you know trained Fighters for many years that was my whole life before uh the hospital group and uh I'm definitely getting my kids in the MMA gym you know I definitely I won't push them to fight but you know you learn so much from going through those struggles of wanting to give up and uh you know overcoming the adversity of getting your face beat in and um uh are you going to 306s what

00:07:36 is that uh or like the UFC fight in the in the sphere the sphere yeah well you know we're the official stem cell provider of the UFC so um yeah we're we're yeah we're at all of them I got have 14 uh people coming out oh good yeah we have to have to meet up um actually uh Bobby Kennedy uh theii um RFK son just textt me he's going to go with us too and so we'll have a we'll have a little crew out there but uh yeah I think that helps a lot I mean the the fighting aspect at least for Scotty as my business partner and dedric uh as

00:08:09 well and um you know dedric bought my MMA gym uh right after I I had retired and Scotty came from the fight world as well and so we kind of relate everything to fighting you know it's like uh business in many ways is like an MMA fight you know you've got a certain amount of rounds you have your goal to win uh when you go into a fight at a high level you have to have strategy game plan you have to stick to the game plan but then you have to realize everybody has a plan till they get punched in the face as the great poet

00:08:38 Mike Tyson said so um yeah I look at things a lot like like that yeah I mean I think it's um I look at a lot of things like war and I think it helps me a lot you know like I was uh doing like a like a fun little golf tournament and so he was like you having fun I was like nope and I was like I'm here to [ __ ] win you like that's what I'm here to do MH um I'm not here to like people love to make excuses to get drunk it's one of my like funny things to watch it's like like I love the UFC it's like oh okay

00:09:07 how do you think his roana performed oh I don't oh you love getting drunk or you love going to events or you know and so same thing in golf but it's like I look at you know especially business is like yeah it can be fun it can be rewarding be exciting but it's also a lot of War you know and especially at you know if you have a couple hundred employees which we don't we have about 65 and so you know but it's still a good amount of team to manage it's like um sometimes you know it's you're at war with people

00:09:33 yeah yeah yeah no doubt I I I look at things I was very with my MMA School built it to the largest in the country at one point and we had a clothing line called gamess we were the largest supplier Brazilian jiu-jitsu martial arts uniforms in the world and you know back then I was very like just hardcore in the business like it was uh everything was was you know a fight and if they weren't with us they were against us and I had that kind of mentality as I've kind of evolved uh when I look at a situation I always try

00:10:09 to create a win-win so because for me if someone else is losing within the business still it might create animosity it might create and and the and the camaraderie of doing business together the camaraderie of the the other person not feeling like I'm getting one over them um it helps from you know big picture to me and that's a really a shift that that I really created over the last gosh 2024 so the last like 12 years actually since I got out the MMA business that's all I knew was fight fight fight fight and um but you know it

00:10:47 is it is like war in many ways and I think that sometimes in war though you can create wins for everybody everybody because ultimately you want you want to uh you know not have the battle all the time yeah we have customers that treat everything like we're trying to like screw them and that's like the people that it's like they're constantly in war mode I guess I you know when I say it I mean like the bank's like Hey we're not going to renew this line of credit and I'm like no you're going to renew this

00:11:14 exactly yeah um or like we can't get a Facebook ad to work you know for our own we don't run Facebook ads for people but just for our own like leads and it's just like try try it just feels like you're at war with Facebook you know that's what I mean by the analogy not of like you know of like not everything's conflct or code R yeah I get what you're saying um so you you have about 65 employees um what's it like being the leader and what type of uh leader do you like to be to your employees so I always

00:11:43 say I'm a terrible leader um and you know maybe that's self-awareness maybe it's a little bit of humor but there there's some people that are like you know I came in and I gave uh there's that silly guy that runs like a Payment Processing Company on LinkedIn that I see all the time he's like you know we pay everybody 80,00 th000 a year or more and they get free health care and free this and D D D D and we you know and eight months off for fraternity leave for male and women it's like cool I don't know your profit margins mine

00:12:09 aren't that right and so um we've always been about being the greatest and and so um we have a culture of greatness so I don't you know um it's not that I don't care that you know you and your boyfriend just broke up or whatever I don't care like you know but it's like we've always been focused on the work and so um there isn't a lot of like us hanging out for parties and US flying in for Retreats there's just a lot of like how do we produce the best possible work take care of our customers in a way

00:12:39 they've never experienced get better and faster at everything all the time yeah and so that that personality appears very well with somebody who also is like cool I don't want you to know about my private life I don't you know like um I used to have this like better than thou mentality and I remember like one time I said on a on a podcast interview like 10 years ago like you know if I ever found out my employee cheat on his wife I'd fire him and now I'm like I don't condone it but that's his life as long

00:13:07 as he builds or develops or like unless he does his job at his company his job's here done and I've realized that like people really love that because they they don't want politics they don't you know like we're a web design agency so obviously like covid vaccine would never come to play but like they they just want to be able like if if you want to get 12 vaccines or you want to get zero they just want to be like cool I want a job where I'm there to do great work and so it takes you know people join CU

00:13:30 everybody says that and then they see that our culture is very much about that um but once they once they get that they're like okay you know they it really quickly weeds out the people that are for like you know that it works for or it doesn't yeah well you know culture is everything uh you know not everything because it's it's a lot in a company you know especially you know I've got I pushing like 250 employees and so it's a you know and I never managed that many people until this the last N9 years till

00:14:00 we built it and you know I think for for me as a leader um I want the employees to know that I have their back no matter what as long as they're doing what they need to do for the company and you know that's really been like a a shift in the last three years where I focused on because as we're growing it's like okay because ultimately as business owners our job is to get the most uh out of everybody and um so it and I realize too that you know those that have been with us for a long time through Co we were

00:14:34 almost bankrupt you know they've grinded it out with us and um you know ultimately the team is the most important thing it's more important than any one single you know individual and I mean the we do surveys HR does like you know surveys with the employees and man the scores are higher than ever and they are producing consistently they're learning how to be leaders themselves they're um it's just it's it's it's really cool the kind of the evolution of that for us over the last three years cuz before you know we'

00:15:12 have nursing talking about striking and like oh my gosh it's all this you know it was it was a lot of drama within it and you know maybe that had to do with me not having the experience or Scot Dedrick and I not having the experience to to work through that because I'm like oh you want to quit quit but you know it's uh it's really kind of evolved that way so the leadership conversation is something that I have a lot right now in my head and amongst my friends or uh you know people that own businesses like you

00:15:41 um because ultimately it's about how do we get the most out of yeah I mean going from like 25 to 50 was our biggest of we're like oh no we hired a lot of really great Freelancers that don't know how to work as a team that was like the biggest retooling yes because it's like you know you'll find a lot of rock stars that don't like being told what to do or how to do it or like don't work with others um and and and that's not some it's not instant you know like this is why there's um there's a developer

00:16:12 that's on on her way out currently and one of my count managers is like ah just she's like always she's so difficult to work with and I'm like look when we find somebody as good as her we'll make it happen you know like we're interviewing now we're trying to make it happen and and that you know because again she joined a while ago and did really well until we started to really grow and then was like um always complain about how other developers write code it's like well you got to find a way to work

00:16:37 together show them how how you do it you know and it's like and so yeah that's the big jump I feel like um you know especially if you go from like a couple million to several million at least in our world that was the big jump is like learning to work together as teams not as like powerful individuals yes yeah and you know and the culture changes with companies too I think I I I could see our culture has changed over the last nine years to where it was you know it's a certain culture in the beginning

00:17:01 and you know where Scotty and Dedrick and I were living in the hospital the first 6 months and were there 7 days a week 15 hours a day just grinding it out and um you know those that could make it through that we were you know I was a lot more difficult to deal with then you know so I'm I'm less difficult with the employees now but um those that stuck through it you know they now know at least the vision and the mindset that it takes to get through these tough times and they've become better managers than

00:17:29 what I would say I was even N9 years ago and so it's been interesting watching that kind of evolve oh yeah and especially when you're just like every day you're like is this ever going to turn into anything I mean like for me like when I first started out I was spending you know 20 hour days in just trying to like figure business out it's like I was overly intense about literally everything and just CU like I was I think terrified and I think I just put that on other people I don't think I realized I was terrified I was just like

00:17:56 I don't know how I don't know how you build a company like this isn't how is this even possible exactly you know yeah I I can share that I mean it's because we don't know we're doing the best we can with what we've been taught and um you know you're in Mastermind groups so you're evolving and you know as those leadership skills get kind of honed in you know you start figuring out what works for you and what works for you is a little different than anybody else and um that's that's okay but yeah my

00:18:24 experience with it is you know I like to be open to change you know especially in myself and you know that ability to Pivot to a different type of leader um has really supported and when when as soon as it kind of happened I could see it changing everybody in the company for the better you know they're working better they're uh creating more teamwork they see the vision really sharing the vision with everybody instead of you know keeping it kind of close um helped out a lot so um what would you say like

00:18:58 before your web agency though what were you what were you doing so I I started when I was 18 so it's like been most of my life how old are you now I'm 30 okay um I left in 2019 when I was 25 um and I started a company called rabbit and rabbit saw the problem with people's phones dying it was these little 9x1 12inch kiosks he could rent a fully charged power brick and rent and return anywhere um and that was like a massive success and I had never uh in my life touched something that was like instantly successful he's like I'm going

00:19:30 to start this and then nobody cares and you're like kind of making the market care but I remember our our first like week in business went live in like 25 hours on Broadway and we did like 500 users like 500 new users customers organically like no marketing no advertising just this little 9x1 12 in kios appears some of the bartenders told people what it was when they asked others were like I don't know um even though I had a sign on it um and so that was like oh like oh we have something here such a good feeling right and um it

00:20:03 was you know to I was young then but I in my head I was like oh I've waited my whole life for this yes exactly um and so we we launched in um so I started the company in July we launched end of October and then in January we got South by Southwest we got the NCAA tournament um and we got some large festivals and we were talking to the NFL to go live at NFL stadiums we were talking to a bunch of colleges and I said we're just going to go all in at Live Events and like large stuff uh large Gatherings and so uh January 2020 I was

00:20:39 like that's the strategy let's go um so we started to launch like our plan was to get to get to launch 12 cities a month so raising massive amounts of massive amounts of capital putting together teams in all these cities and just like really had a plan of like here's how we're going to scale this thing and um uh obviously uh March came and um I remember uh we have we our CTO um is like a any good CTO loves Reddit you know lives in a basement that kind of guy and he had posted in uh December end of December he's like man uh or

00:21:15 January I think it was like he was like in December 18 million phone subscriptions were canceled in China he's like how crazy is this and he was like look at this this used to be lit now it's dark he's like I think there's like a plague in China and so he posted that like the team slack and our head of cells who's a little uh more liberal than him wrote back like stop watching so much Fox News I was like his reply and uh so that uh ended you know and I was like guys cut it out like whatever you know you're overreacting you're

00:21:44 being a dick it's like kind of how I felt about it uh and then you know Co hit and we went straight to zero and we stayed at zero and um I was like okay I uh my wife and I got married in 2021 we had our first kid um and so I I just felt like I needed to go raise another you know starting at probably 5 million but then leading to like a 20 million series a and that like was just going to take me flying over the US like I can go you know I can do it but it was just like a lot of work being away from

00:22:18 my newborn and my wife and so I just kind of took a step back and was like you know I'm going to close this chapter and um I think that our moment in time was great I think the effort to get it restarted I I tried like all of 2020 all 2021 would just know like everything we'd get the vent would cancel or nobody show up to the vents so it was just like this grind that I was like I don't know why I'm doing this so I went back to the agency and I was like this time we're going to do website management build our

00:22:43 recurr Revenue um which is just people paying a small LLY fee to never worry about the website again and then over the past three years uh we've been drastically scaling that that's where all our employees is what everything goes towards yeah so now your company is uh it's it's focused on web develop and and taking care of uh people's websites yeah and it's mostly management so it's Tak an existing website and like hosting at security being on standby to handle whatever they need like being their

00:23:08 outsourced internal web team is a maybe a good way of looking at it so we have you know we have Fortune 500 companies just a couple of them that we like are their we handle anything for their website and then we have tons of just like small businesses they like yeah I just want to make sure my website's always live it's never hat and when I need updates or need to do new things or build a splash page or get a new video out there whatever that your team's there to handle it so what makes you different than other companies out there

00:23:33 so pretty much everybody builds websites and that's what they're selling we're selling uh exceptional support and in management of your existing asset so in the same way like there's a lot of people that build homes but you're like how many people manage properties it's probably a smaller amount sure so we just manage digital properties is the way I look at it interesting and so yeah Co had you pivot you know to that yeah I mean because I own the agency I had like um you know we had accounts we'd built

00:24:02 it up but we were building new websites at that time so like we'd make 100 Grand one month and then lose 50 the next and then make like 251 then lose 100 like it's just this highs and lows I was like I just want these small reoccurring you know you do the num like everybody always if you know nothing about business you're like okay well if I get a th people to pay $20 a month we'll be rich you know you do this number and so for us like I did that and I was like okay the hard part's always getting that

00:24:26 many people um but we just you know all day every day and I now say this because we do a couple hundred B calls a month so I can safely say this but it's like people are just like hey my web designer disappeared went out of business they're slow to respond that's like all day every day and so it's like hey for 500 to a couple thousand a month depending on website size and all the different variations we handle all that for you you get account manager you have live tracking of everything that's going on

00:24:51 not try to pitch or sell the business but you know it's like the the goal was like you never worry about your website again for a small monthly fee and and we really nailed that and so that's been uh really exciting to watch that grow um you know like on Monday like we signed sit new customers and it's like oh cool like we're getting that you know I want to get to a thousand customers a year is like what I'm trying to get to and yeah so anyway um you know we pivoted into that and that's been good because like

00:25:15 it's recurring Revenue um we're we're crushing it and I see the exit towards that I'm like cool if we get to this number of Revenue we'll have this number in profit and we have a a great ETS it because we're valued as like a B2B SAS yeah that's awesome uh what is the goal you said you you wanted to be uh a billionaire like is this part of the goal to be a billionaire so I mean the goal is to ensure everyone in the world has access to fresh water that's the goal and um I think I can do that as president uh according to Scott Harrison

00:25:47 the founder of Charity water who's kind of the foremost nonprofit and fitting that it's about 100 in uh 15 billion is what it cost to give the 800 million people don't have access to water fresh water which is the same amount of money we've sent to the Ukraine um and so like if I if I think if you had to choose I mean the American people don't really have a lot of say in these decisions but it's like everyone in the world has that sist of fresh water which will solve like you know most of these diseases and

00:26:12 most of the poverty and most of the stuff comes from like dreaming drinking swamp water and dying at age 20 and their kids dying and always being sick and so on and so forth but so if you know we got to choose as American people like do you want to solve other world asset of fresh water or like send a bunch of weapons and [ __ ] to Ukraine I think most people would choose water absolutely and so like you know to have um to have elen musk type money it's like yeah it's net worth so we have to sell all Tesla everything to then like

00:26:41 fund that and of course the 30 years in motion to like make that happen um and so it doesn't really seem like something a private individual can do it's it's something a government's got to solve or governments have to solve um and so uh my thought is like well as president I can solve that um but I don't want to be owned by anybody and I want to self-run and so when when you run the numbers it's like if I build a brand which I think is possible maybe I can run and win on 300 to 500 million depending on

00:27:09 inflation and everything else but like chances are if I I'm going to have to be like nearly a liquid billionaire and put it all on the line and so I just kind of like I'm just a realist about like I am really trying to run for president and win and I'm like all right I have to make a lot of money to do this yeah what's your uh what's your plan I mean you got a you have a 30-year plan here yeah I mean I I'm going to exit this business and then it's like 3 years uh and that will give me a good amount of

00:27:32 cash around 50 million nothing crazy um I plan to leverage a lot of that into my Net's Venture and that's the one I hope to take public and like get me like a a large either large Equity stake or large um you know large cash flow or large um uh net worth that I can then leverage um and then I still as far as like growing my personal brand um you know the art of trying and just like some of the like my book I'm working on and a bunch of things I'm doing on personal brand I'm not trying to do anything around

00:28:01 business like every business guy like I don't interview when I had a podcast I refused to interview entrepreneurs because they all have the same story of like yeah I worked really hard for a long time now I'm rich and it's like oh wow how inspirational yeah um and so uh I love like the Jordan Petersons of this world and just like thought leaders and so that's where I'm trying to position myself as somebody that's like considered an intellectual uh intelligent human being that I can I can build from there and so I like to think

00:28:26 that I'll build that along with my you know political thoughts on a lot of things over the next 30 Years and ideally in 30 years I'll have a brand and I'll have cash and I can put a good run in nice hey you've uh also expressed criticism on uh the education system um or thoughts about how to make it better what what would you do so you know college is a scam and everybody knows that like like this isn't like a debated thing um and I don't think people are extreme enough about it like um in two in the early

00:28:59 2000s mid 2000s early like 2010 the new thing that people would say is like well College isn't for everyone MH and really what you say that is like well maybe for your dumbass it's not you know it's like it's not the thing that people really believe and and I think one college isn't for most people um but it's just kind of this odd thing it's like if your business you're in the stim cell business is that correct so would it be helpful if the government would give anyone in the US a loan for like a

00:29:30 loan to go to your clinic oh yeah absolutely that probably help with Revenue right if just anybody could just get Auto approved a lot yeah yeah and then no matter how much you let's say you raise prices I don't know 800% over the past uh five years M um and you continue to do that and then um even crazier than that like your your former patients are going to put bumper stickers of your logo on their car they're going to buy hoodies with your logo on it um and then when they get really rich they're going to donate back

00:29:59 to your clinic cuz they you know they're so proud that they got stem cells from there and then they're going to guilt anybody in their family that doesn't want to go there to going because it's a family Legacy we all go to Harvard we all go to your Stem Cell clinic um and you're like you listen you're like that's [ __ ] crazy yeah exactly and so I mean it's just like the whole model is like I think college is a great business I just think that um the government shouldn't back these loans yeah uh I

00:30:24 think that they should have to use their $3 billion endowment and shouldn't just sit Tat's [ __ ] free there um and so I just think there's just a lot of um like ridiculous things about college that I think everybody knows but they kind of ignore um like I I can't believe people are like oh like I um like college football isn't that just modern day slavery before you could pay the players not anymore yeah I mean not anymore but it's like the fact that that was a thing it's like wait so the University of

00:30:53 Texas makes $100 million a year off their football team and they're they get a free scholarship right um and so you see this stuff and it's like wait they're the good organization the organization that makes 100 million off their players and then doesn't pay them yeah uh and so I just think there's like so many ridiculous things about college um that uh that now everybody agrees on but like 20 years ago they definitely didn't right um and but that that you know Peter Till's right and like you got

00:31:22 to it can't be fits it's too big it's just got to be torn down y um but it starts with like hey um we're we're not just going to give you we're not going to give anybody who wants to go to your place un limited loans to go there um that's like if I if you start a business and you go to that let's say you get an SBA loan like you can't just uh be like yeah I have no way of repaying this and like you know like there's got to be uh there's got to be something and so you know it's just so unfortunate to the

00:31:47 kids that believe the lie that they had to do this and that's what I continue to find um I find a lot of people that are you know many of our employees are are lot in debt over student loan yeah that's wild and and they're like yeah just my parents really like they didn't force me they really really pressured me to go sign these loans get this and you know and I learned nothing in college because the things I was passionate about I learned on YouTube or I like found a mentor that did it yep and so I

00:32:12 just it's just a sick system and um you know it's kind of like Payday Loan places you know it's like I think you're a shitty person if you run one of those because it just prays on on people anything predatory you know it's like yeah like uh I think like child molesters should be murdered you know it's like anything predat I'm like yeah it's not it's not yeah well like the thing with uh education I mean like the stem fields are are one thing but they have a lot of really dumb uh Majors you know it's like yeah gender studies and

00:32:42 like and you're like yeah the they get student loans to learn this opinion because it's not a it's not like even real it's like I don't agree with most of it and uh they can do nothing with these degrees except be indoctrinated into a way of thinking that's going to make them miserable because they're teaching you how to be a victim to your circumstances and no personal responsibility yeah um the stem Fields I I think education by college for the stem Fields makes sense uh I don't like the student loans either I

00:33:14 actually thought about you know if I put a billion dollars into a fund um and I'd like to get other other billionaires to focus on helping their own cities so instead of thinking like big but like okay let's all help our you know where we live and um I was running the math a billion dollar fund um would support uh every kid graduating from public school to go to a state school college and I would do it if they had a 3.0 uh average or higher going into the stem Fields have has to has to be stem might even

00:33:51 you know tighten it up a little bit but um you know I think on a on a non-government level we can solve those problems better than others and so I'm for that I'm in agreeance I don't like the student loans I don't think that college for most people is a thing I think we should actually be learning skills and not you know some bogus philosophy on how to bring down America which is I which is basically what these universities are teaching right well it's just unfortunate because they've we like universities teach this pity on like

00:34:30 people that do real work and it's like there's so many people that would have an awesome life if they just went and became a plumber um like they'd make 120 Grand a year maybe even like at starting maybe go up to like 250 if they their own company make millions and we' just been like oh nobody wants to be a plumber yeah um and uh you know you just all these people graduating with business degrees and it's like what does that even mean you know like uh it's just it's a really corrupt system and and people act like it's oh well it's

00:35:04 just flawed it's like no it's corrupt and there's like a there's a big difference between being flawed and corrupt absolutely yeah what do you uh what do you think of the the business degrees if you if you have somebody that applies those to NBA does that uh make you want to hire them more or less yeah I it used to be like less because I was like you're an idiot um now I realize that people are just manipulated by their family you know like I'm not somebody who really cares what my family thinks it's not some you know to some

00:35:28 people that's a really big deal their family's buying sure and and I didn't understand that so now I understand like that's a really you know um I have an employee I I deeply care about and he's like he's got 100 Grand in debt and um I've been I've been working to help pay that off and um because it's like I care about him and I feel like he he feels like he was kind of like tripped by his parents and like getting this degree you know and um and so if they think their their degree is special is when I'm

00:35:56 always like okay let's talk about this like you think think this means something MH um and I've always made the argument of like yeah if you could choose between the sales guy that sold $100 million worth of something or the sales guy that has like a sales degree it's like yeah I'm G to choose the guy with experience like experience is is the golden ticket in everything um now obviously in like the medical field like there's things we need you know we need doctors we need Engineers we need our bridges to not collapse like but uh

00:36:23 there's you know we're losing in that compared to other countries first off um and yeah like a business degree is like Anyway college is such a mind [ __ ] to me sorry with the language but in so many different ways and like one of the ways that blows my mind is like yeah like we deeply care about education MH but we have football teams we have like sports teams we have sororities and fraternities we allow alcohol it's like well if you cared about education it would be about education sure and and so

00:36:53 it's like this weird um cult yeah and then like even you know I'm a Christian and um I remember a church I was at was celebrating people graduating and going to college and I was like I mean if if data shows that 70% will turn away from their faith when they go to college aren't you like celebrating that they're no longer going to follow Jesus and like data shows huh that's what the data shows yeah wow I didn't know that and I was like you know isn't isn't the kind of like a little counter like shouldn't

00:37:20 we not and like oh we're not our kids you know because our you know it's like oh okay yeah the not our kids that's always you know that's always a great mindset like couldn't be me yeah um and so I I don't know I just I I feel so sad with the buyin that the society has to college yeah um and there's nothing more when I interview somebody who's like can't wait to tell me about their three degrees like I'm G to be impressed I'm like I'm just always like what it cost you yeah uh and the good ANS is like oh

00:37:48 I got a scholarship all the way through yep I like yeah just eight years of your life you know and like I just drill into it because to me it's just such a ludicrous like tradeoff like oh you gave not only did you go into debt but then you worked for them for free some you know like when I hear people like oh I pulled all nighters all through college it's like oh so you just like slaved you paid them and like you know it's just like how do we turn it for our employees is like the joke I always make like man

00:38:11 if I could have people be like all right I'll give you 100 Grand if you let me work for you for four years I'll work 80 hour weeks um I'll tell everyone I work for you my parents can't like wait to tell other friends I work for you and then I'll shame anyone in our family that doesn't work for you in the future like that is a perfect business model yeah oh and I don't have the 100 Grand to pay you so the government's gonna give me a loan like this sounds great it's an interesting take man yeah um

00:38:36 there's there there's a lot out there that just yeah it's largely a scam I don't think it's completely a scam I mean I think if you want to be a lawyer for instance you got to go to college you got to get your law degree if you want to be a scientist um you don't necessarily have to have have a degree to be a a scientist but if you want to get a PhD you know you need that obviously a medical doctor um those type of things but you know for the large part it's just a it is just a waste and especially now I think now more than

00:39:02 ever it's a waste because the society has changed so much and like the whole like prere thing is like things are just so weird like hey make sure you do good and like English one and English two and like your algebra class and it's like yeah they're trying to be a like you know or like your photography class it's like why does this exist like you can learn photography from YouTube Fairly easily that's true man that's the type of I'm going to say dumb degree unless someone just wants to waste the time and

00:39:30 money yeah but you know like I think if you're a doctor you still have to do pre does everybody have to do PR Rex yes so it's like I don't understand why my doctor needs like my daughter already has terrible handwriting I don't think English one English 2 is going to change that that's true well yeah okay let's let's look at that like you know you're the bachelor for for a PhD um let's say in Immunology they need some basic science classes of course uh then but a lot of it is is garbage and a waste and

00:39:58 uh I've never really thought about it like that as far as yeah why do they do the English classes why do they do history or those type of things I mean yeah cuz like wait did I didn't we learn all this in high school that's another thing it's just like kind of odd like oh it's just like a it's like 13th and 14th grade is like what freshman sophomore year is and then I guess like Junior and senior in college is like the real stuff and it's like why don't you just go straight to the real stuff yeah because

00:40:21 they want more money yeah it's a it's a it's a failed model yeah that's really interesting I'm I'm going have to really chew on this cuz I I haven't thought of it like that I mean I thought college is largely a scam but the little the the some of the reasons you're bringing up it it makes me think a little bit what what got you into kind of focusing on this and you know looking at it like that I mean I didn't go and so I just had a lot of people like look down or talk down to me because I didn't um and

00:40:47 I just like you know ran the numbers and I'm like I don't get why this is a good idea like everybody I admire didn't go yeah um you know like like people I admire like Ralph Lauren didn't go yeah um and uh I used to say uh Zuckerberg before I knew he was like a kind of not a great guy so I was like Zuckerberg and like Ralph Lauren like different fields one's fashion one's Tech but you know I just kind of felt like you know greatness always finds a way to be great and winners always win and so um I get

00:41:19 that there is a there's people that need to be taught and people need to like find their calling or whatever and I just think there's like a cheaper way of doing that than like a 100 grand and a classroom setting well yeah I mean it's it's a whole system uh this is how you're supposed to you're supposed to go to school go to high school then go to college and and um it really isn't very logical how we how we send people to college at all even we can talk about other schooling too but yeah sending

00:41:46 people it doesn't make sense and when I do see these gender studies and these stupid [ __ ] degrees you know and the reason I asked you about the MD M uh MBA um um was when I get an application and somebody has an MBA I immediately internally look down I'm like H they're going to think they know about business you know and sometimes they're legit and they're like oh this is just a degree but sometimes they're trying to tell me I'm like oh thank God somebody can hint on my sell spreadsheets like they are

00:42:16 very good at sale C certain things but it's when they try to tell you how to run your business and oh well you know that I'm like come on dude come on yeah I mean it's like um my favorite thing that some of our smartest employees have come to me with is like I was thinking what if we double our prices and I go well I was thinking if you can convince our customers to go for that then we will yeah but uh I've never been able to figure that I've never been able to just to double prices and customers Not freak out about it right

00:42:47 um and you know it's just so funny when people have these like simple I'm like yeah I get in your simple math scenario you're like we double prices we'll be it amount of Revenue double six ABS you know like yeah and it's like yeah I you know I it made sense until you got to do it yeah if you want to go tell you know 350 customers that the prices are doubling yeah um in this economy I don't you know sure you you you want to Ru my company I guess I'll give you a shot at it um I'll just walk it back two weeks

00:43:17 later be like I didn't know yeah it was this guy nobody told me but yeah it's it's just funny people's like simple conclusions to very hard hard things right and you know and people the college one's interesting because you you pin people and they they always like throw out these like well it's about the experience I'm like what's Experience like sleeping with a bunch of people or getting drunk a lot or like uh massive amounts of anxiety massive amounts of stress like what is the experience yeah I know it's you're

00:43:47 making a lot of a lot of sense with it and uh you know going to the employee uh ideas you know that's part of being an entrepreneur is like uh everybody can look at your business from the outside and tell you oh what if you did this or you should do this or you should do that it's like do you not think I haven't thought of that and that that's my favorite it's like golly of course you know I love be like have you ever thought about like we build websites like running Facebook ads like I've never tell me

00:44:18 more never even thought about it yeah or you should do this it's like okay I should right well yeah probably not but thanks for the yeah like my neighbor has been trying to sell me his house for like a year and it's it feels like that he's like I mean this view is never going away and just I was like dude I'm not going to buy your house man like I don't know if you are purposely trying but like every time you see me you're just like trying to convince me to buy your house I'm not interested I have no

00:44:50 interest whatsoever that's funny and that's kind of with employees like oh that's a good idea you know you're like kind about it and then you're like hey Steve it's not it's just not our business plan right well you know I have fun with our scientists because uh they do bring really good scientific ideas and I love that you know that camaraderie it's it's kind of funny to me when when other people be like well have you ever thought of doing this treatment I'm like yeah I'm in the treatment business

00:45:17 and this is all I ever think about yeah we're the most advanced in the world right now like yes I've thought about doing that all you've got to do is like that's not all we've got to do and by the way we're making that one in house but you know it's uh it's quite interesting but I think a lot of it's well- intended but it does show you that you know uh the people that are not entrepreneurs um they look at entrepreneurs and and our businesses and like well you know with very very simplistic uh ideas

00:45:50 thinking that we didn't at all consider those and you know if you think about society as a whole there's a lot of that well all you got to do is this and you know I think at the president level everything's easy in a bubble right yeah and at the president level you're talking about running for president you know someone needs to communicate that effectively is um yes we're thinking about this yes we're thinking about that you know this is because if if we could package these ideas uh that we have to

00:46:22 make the country better in a way that everybody can realize that there's been a lot that's actually been thought about um I think we can get more Buy in you know something like that yeah you know when when you have such a divided nation you deal with this thing that everything you do half the people on on the US hate you you know and that's a a tough thing yeah um and and the problem is like the federal government doesn't have as much control over your life as you you know wish they did you know I be like complain a lot

00:46:50 you know I remember my friend was telling me he was voting for Biden because the Nashville Road sucked and I was like because Nashville Road suck yeah and I was like oh man you don't know about the federal and state governments I me he's 38 you know it's like I don't I don't mean to be rude dude I don't think you should vote at all like I don't think you've earned that right you know like um and so it's just you know we have a massive education problem if if you had to pour it down I mean that's what college all

00:47:16 this is you know if College was about education I'd be all for it sure I'm obsessed with education I read a 100 books a year like I love to learn the reason I hate college is because it's nothing to do with education or very little to um and so that's what we're you know when teachers make um our plan is to private Tut to our kids um and myette's business is around school and so I'm very passionate about this because that's that's what I'm going to take public and that's kind of myette's thing but when I looked at like I was like I'm

00:47:44 just going to hire a full-time teacher because it's like these private schools are like 15 grand a kid and so I go to like a private like the same like you know f for example you go to F like hey what do you pay your school teacher like oh 38 Grand a year yeah so low like okay cool I'll just take them yeah like hey do you want to instead of watching 20 kids do you want to watch one and then two in a couple years uh and you have to travel with us as a family and we'll pay you 50 yeah like yeah I'll take that

00:48:12 yeah um and so I think that like we if education is the only thing that's going to set us apart from other nations I mean outside of like if you happen to have oil underneath your ground and other things but it's like we got to invest in it and not at the college level but like at the like Elementary Middle School and High School level yeah no absolutely and so that's that's what's really got to be retooled I mean yeah we talk about the problems with college um but it's the maybe college is so bad because of how bad the kids show

00:48:40 up when they get there yeah no that's that's a good point so you're hiring a outside a teacher to come in and yeah we just or recruit we just went we've gone a couple of the top uh middle schools and I've like you know done some LinkedIn searches and then I've asked people around like cuz I have rich friends whose kids go to that school like what's the what's who's the best teacher like write down the name send them an Instagram DM um so 2052 you talked about running you know running for president kind of mentioned

00:49:11 a little bit uh about how you want to get there how do you think your entrepreneurial experiences will help you be a you know a great leader so you know when we speak about teams running the US is is a giant team it's not like one guy um and there's a there's a lot of bureaucracy and we don't know what's going to exist in 30 years um and so I think the best service I could ever do is is tear down most of the government you know it's like the best service I could ever do is shrink the government like that's that's the

00:49:45 greatest honor I could ever do uh and if I was to get assassinated or whatever like that would be worth it like if you hey you could make the government 5% smaller uh I'd be like totally worth it um and so I understand that a lot of these things I know nothing about because I'm 30 years old and I don't work in government um and I think a lot of the things that people thought Trump would do like oh it's a businessman he balance the budget I'll do all the things that he did not do keep in mind but it's like it's still

00:50:13 the right mindset um I just think you have to come prepared for war and not prepared of like oh yeah they'll just hand me everything and um and you know like I I think you have to be prepared of like this is what we're going to do no matter what and um and so I don't know where we're going to be at in 30 years um and sometimes I see the things that are going on and I'm like maybe I do just want to retire very wealthy at age 40 and not pursue this uh I do love my country I do look at this as a way to get back to my country um

00:50:43 I'm not against you know running for governor of Tennessee or or like another I have no interest in being mayor of Nashville or anything like that but definitely like Governor or president or Senate I would maybe consider um but it's always been like a way to give back and so so if if I feel like I can't get anything done I'm like I'm I think lifelong like I'm for term Li I'm for everything that most Americans are for like term limits like this is a public service thing like I'm going to go give

00:51:07 away most of my net worth to have a bad at this and if I do get a bad at it I'm like eight years and I'm out um and let's say do senate or Governor or whatever like if I was governor of Tennessee it's like yeah I'm giv this eight years of my life uh and so so that's what it's been to me it's just like this is public service and I and I serve the people of Tennessee or I serve I serve our our States you know and and that's a really tough one when half the people believe you're not serving them half the people think you're you are

00:51:34 serving them y uh but in general everybody pretty much agrees on the same things you know it's like um everybody is like yeah I don't I think we should not start wars like sure if you own a company that builds tanks you're like let's start wars you know but like in general most people are like I don't think we should start Wars wars are bad and you're like hey it'd be cool if people were smart like yeah that's that made sense like teachers should get paid yeah that made sense I mean that's more of again not a federal issue but

00:52:02 again federal grants and funding what can you do about that um and so I think a lot I think we're very United in a lot of these core beliefs I think they just they you know once you get to that position you see there's a lot of red tape and and it it takes somebody with a business mindset to like go to war with it y um I think a lot of people are treating it like there's some problems like they're treating it like um a pan is on fire in the kitchen and I think you should treat it like the entire

00:52:28 house is on fire yeah and and so there's just a lot of people like I'm going to go do this and they go do nothing and then you know you talk to those people behind closed doors like well um you know they I cheated on my wife 20 years ago and they proved it and like they had that on me you know like there's just all this like stuff that people have um and that's where they really got Trump because he was like I don't care yeah he was the first one to say screw it they're like you Chown your wife he's

00:52:53 like multiple times um you know it's like whoa I did it and I liked it I'm sorry but I liked it not gonna lie um and so it's just like this you know you got to look at it as war and um I'm not dumb enough to think like I'm going to be able to make a difference when nobody else has yeah I do think there are small wins though you know and so like um there there's little things that make massive differences and and so you're not going to Fitz it like it's been it's been going the wrong direction for a long time and so I understand that

00:53:23 but I do think I have a good chance of like hopefully getting what most people agree to which is like hey you shouldn't be a lifelong politician um and uh we shouldn't be funding all the stuff that we fund for no reason yeah and uh actually our country is pretty great and um As Americans that pay our taxes we deserve to know everything so like we should release you know like Trump talking about releasing like JFK documents and all that it's like he said that also the first time around and the reason he

00:53:49 didn't uh is said because like one guy was like please please please don't do it they're not ready for this um and I think you know I'm not uh a joke like I'm not a conspiracy theorists I just don't think buildings collap on top of themselves you know if you make like a 911 joke or like you know all these but it's like if people have questions there should be a form for that um yeah well you know you think about how much the government has covered up over the years I mean I I worked on uh two of uh uh Ron

00:54:14 Paul campaigns um 2008 2012 and so I kind of got really involved you know at the time and I'm pretty much a Libertarian I mean that's that's where I I kind of land and you know I I saw though um you know the push back then to those ideas now they're mainstream I mean you got to figure when Ron Paul got on stage there was a presidential baate in no Iraq no Afghanistan were like you anti-American yeah you America you know and you know but he just made so much sense with it all I think part of Trump's success is

00:54:50 because Ron Paul started that conversation uh of in many ways America first which which I like but you know the the whole landscape has changed so much now it's not the same as it was just 15 years ago we are having these conversations but I would have considered myself more liberal on on social issues you know 12 15 years ago I was pretty I was pretty left and I haven't really changed most of my positions but the left has gone way far left and you know because I'm someone who believes in a super strong First

00:55:30 Amendment you know freedom of of speech freedom of religion like all the way and freedom of press all the way and uh you know when Edward Snowden came out I guess that was 2014 I had been saying very publicly that the NSA was uh uh Gathering our information and and there was there were a couple different former NSA employees that got raided by the FBI and they were saying these things too like hey they're Gathering your information Etc and so when Snowden did the release I was like finally everybody's G to know American

00:56:06 hero I got a painy of him in my office I'm like this guy's awesome it's amazing that's a guy that loves our country he's somehow in Russia yeah and but the way the country reacted nobody seemed to care like oh it doesn't matter they've been diving into our emails or checking our text messages M's like he's a traitor yeah I'm like what are you talking about this is patriotic as it gets and I actually lost a lot of you know passion after Snowden because a lot of the things that I had been called crazy about uh for years

00:56:38 came true and nobody cared I'm like oh well maybe I was just working on issues that nobody you know this is this isn't important people are too far gone and then you know fast forward to where we're at today and a lot of the the you know those conversations are now open in public and the Democratic party now because back then the Republicans were against all that the Democratic party now is for yeah they're they're for the wars big Fara big yeah it's crazy cutting um uh uh censorship they're all

00:57:08 for censorship they're all for the wars they're all for like you said big Pharma and I've watched it shift but it's the same people that before were for freedom of speech and those type of things so you know it's kind of confusing as a human yeah I always say like I believe I'm a little more liberal than Obama was in 08 So like um you know he was against same sets of marriage in 08 um I'm not I you know and so uh but outside that I believe most the things he believed he was anti-war he was you know like

00:57:39 supposedly um and so uh and I always say that like obviously tongue and cheek but it's it's this it it's funny to think just how crazy that that shift has happened um you know because it's like you know nobody realizes I mean I think they do but it's like it's pretty crazy that RFK Jr is supporting Trump that's a pretty crazy um I've always said like hey I think Bernie Sanders and Trump are more aligned than than people realize like agreed there's this one little thing uh which is a big thing over like capitalism but outside

00:58:10 of that like they are both like for better education better Healthcare anti-war freedom of speech um and so I've always loved people that aren't owned by anybody even I completely disagree with them you know like leis Bernie Sanders isn't owned by anyone yeah no doubt about it and uh and so that is something I respect in people like hey at least you're not you know because there's you know you look at like Kemp in Georgia it's like that guy clearly is owned by somebody um The Establishment and uh you know and uh

00:58:39 yeah it's it's I'm you know we'll be curious what happens this year but definitely over the next 30 Years is what I'm planning is like all right I don't know where you know that's why I try not to put myself anywhere I'm like yeah I here's my beliefs you know like I think um like human life's pretty important uh I think like America is a pretty great country that could be better and we should work to make it better and uh I think college is a scam I'm like I know like being on the record for that I'm like I know I'm I know

00:59:04 where this is headed like I watch what people thought about that 20 years ago worse what they thought now I know in another 20 years it's over for them so what's your um what's your view on Trump you know I care about policy so liking the person you know like Camala Harris is not a very person that doesn't really that doesn't affect my decision right uh her sucking at her job is like why I'm not going to vote for her right um so Trump is like I don't think he's a good person and I I don't think he's a good

00:59:39 businessman and um why don't you think he's a good businessman so you know when you just look at his his there's so many records of of him um you know hiring somebody them coming sending invoice him refusing to pay it them taking the court and settling for a percentage of it um and so you see that kind of stuff and we've had customers try to do that to us and it's like you know I just have that bad that bad faith um I've uh I've been around him and he's obviously incredibly likable person incredibly charismatic and it's

01:00:09 like it's hard to not like the guy in person like when you're around the person and you're around him you're like I don't you know maybe the media got everything wrong is like so I get you know that but um so so I have a lot of I said that to say I have a lot of different thoughts about that um if I if I could have vake that's who I would have like if you're like pick your guy that's who I would have like oh a young like self-made uh intellectual uh guy that'd be great um and then below that like any just young guy I think would be

01:00:40 pretty awesome um somebody not owned by The Establishment would be like ideal um and so he's the pick because there's no one else um I liked you know RFK this is like terrible I just can't get over his voice like it really like I wanted to listen to him but like it really uh I'm an audible learner and and I just really had a hard time like focusing like with that raspy voice and obviously he can't help it and like um but I agree with a lot of his things of like hey um you shouldn't be able to buy

01:01:07 your way through the food pyramid um you shouldn't be able just to pollute you shouldn't be able to poison Americans you shouldn't be able to like you know like his I thought his the the real Anthony fouchy was a great book um you know somebody's saying like that book's silly and I was like I mean the fact that nobody has sued him cuz like if if I me Anthony fouchy and that book is false I'm going to sue him maybe if it's not even false I'm still going to sue him because that book makes Anthony

01:01:32 fouchy kind of look like the worst human on earth y um and so uh anyway I really liked him I just knew he couldn't win and then he endorsed trumps I like sweet yeah um so you know in general Trump is 80 you know he's just old um and uh he's a different type of of 80 you know like Biden's 880 and like that's a you know you put those guys side to side like um clear one has more energy and is a little more yeah has a little more working in his head you know and so uh one of my mentors is 80 and we talk

01:02:04 every day and um he's he's a great friend of mine and and super sharp and just on it um I remember he bought a he bought a $2 million RV and he pulled up to my house and um I was like so what this thing cost and he was like what' your home cost told he's like yeah more than that like okay uh and so he's just like funny and like he gets sarcasm you know because some like if you were to how a sarcastic go to Biden it it' go over his head for sure um and um so anyway I I think you know Trump's our

01:02:35 guy because we don't have a choice um I do think he's a little old um and like having somebody that's 80 as president you know is like like that's that's a little old um but I like that he's uh he seems to be who he says he is um and I think a lot of people that's what they saw first time around Second Time Around um you know the fact that he did an interview with the V like Joe bid would never ever do that Kamal haris would never do that I hope she does that'd be amazing yeah it would be um and uh so

01:03:04 she won't do an interview with anybody yeah yeah actually just period um so so I I'm excited for you know uh Biden uh hasn't done a great job his last you know I'm excited to get a to get Trump back in there yeah um I would be excited to get any you know conservative um you you know somebody like just anybody who loves America would love to get in there you know and you know you could be a you could be a 2012 Democrat and love America it's just like the 2024 Democrats like that's just kind of not their agenda anymore what do

01:03:39 you think about all the gaslighting that's happened over the years uh with Biden for instance you know we could all see his mental decline uh yet you know the media propped him up as as sharp as ever I saw that was it Joe Scarboro saying oh my gosh this is the best Biden this is like March you know just like completely idiotic but you know people bought it h Hook Line in Sinker and then you they seemed surprised when he had a bad debate actually I thought his debate this is funny I actually didn't think

01:04:07 his debate was that bad I watched it I was like well Biden didn't do as bad as you know he could have knowing where his brain was at and you know the media turned on him all of a sudden you know this has been we've been able to see it the entire time and they're like oh my gosh it's like what is going on here like they didn't know this my favorite is that uh Andy gianopoulos interview he did after to like make things better um and I'm like if you thought this interview Tim Dylan had like a hilarious

01:04:35 take he was like I just want to start this podcast by congratulating Mr Trump on his net because you know it's like if you think that followup is going to make it better um you know he just comes across like a scile man with dementia um and I haven't been around a lot of people with dementia so I don't know if that's exactly what's going on but there's clearly a mental Decline and that is like dispute that's crazy it's like to say that like um Trump isn't a narcissist like my mom is like whatever

01:05:02 you know you could tell her if Obama was Republican tomorrow she'd be like Obama's the greatest she's just like she's a very pick a team football team type person and so it's like she could never admit anything bad of trump like could never do it it's like that's you know we're all human um and so yeah same thing it's like there's just clear mental decline yeah um and it was very odd to me when people wanted to admit that yeah they they wouldn't admit it and then you know the the Democrats right now are all about oh saving

01:05:30 democracy it's like oh it's a really Democratic process picking come yeah I remember her getting elected I remember I remember every voting for her during the primaries right but especially if you look at like what happened the last primary she was in um Tulsi gabard crushed her yeah in the debate it ruined her entire chance of of getting the nomination and you know she's very she she's not very well-liked and the fact I'm just watching this whole mob crazy mentality uh supporting her and yeah one

01:06:02 of my employees was like um man how about Kamala she's really coming on strong I was like I thought everybody hated her right it was you know it's like the whole um you know I think Jin Z is like can be manipulated in anything um from what I've been able to tell um I mean we have only a couple jiny employees uh and I love to mess with them mentally um and that that that case that can sound worse than it needs to uh but it it's like so um like one was like oh like uh you know I think the Trump was

01:06:36 the Trump shooting was staged and I was like like what what and she was like yeah like I think that like the Secret Service tried to kill him and I was like oh okay on that I could get on that camp and uh I was like she's like you know but um obviously like kamala's you know the the the pick and my person I'm like okay okay well the people that believe it's stage believe it's like fake they're not like the people that believe it's like that the government tried to kill them are not the people voting for Cala it's

01:07:05 like you know just like get your like your party does not agree with like where you're thinking with this right um but I you know it's people who this whole this debate I have with like Jin Z women which is I tried to not ever have that debate but it happens which is like um you know I just don't want somebody to decide what what's over my body MH and it's like okay well that's a Supreme Court right um and uh Riv weight is to the states which is what everybody always wanted anybody with the legal

01:07:31 degree will tell you that it was a bad ruling should have got reversed like 30 years ago um but now it's done and it's in the Supreme Court and it's like well you can let more justices well I don't think anybody's going to die in that's four years they're fairly young it's not like you know the who was it Greta was that her name who was the person on the there was like 200 years old yeah uh yes uh what's her name I know who you're talking about Jamie look it up gins yeah Ginsburg yeah I mean yeah of course

01:07:58 that she was 200 years old like that was obvious um but you know so I see these people have like you know it's like my friend again Nashville Road suck I'm voting for Biden it's like okay these aren't that's what I continue to find people that are voting on their side or like very rarely do I find people that like are actually know anything yeah and that is uh highly concerning um and then when people just aren't they think it's a they think when I'm like hey I don't think illegal alien should be able to

01:08:24 vote they think that's like like oh that's cuz you're Republican I'm like no this is just like an American stance that like only Americans should vote in American elections like this is like like in Venezuela only Venezuelan should be able to vote in vene you know it's like this is just kind of how it works everywhere in the world um but show I hate to say it but how dumb a lot of people are I mean just really really dumb people they can't think for themselves very tribal very oh this is the way because this is what Kamala says

01:08:53 or this is what the Democratic party says or even this this is what the Republican Party says there's plenty of Republicans that are like that too man I mean like yeah I call it room temp IQ it's one of my favorite disses um and uh you know I mean I don't know if it's the food I think it's probably like food or education system and a lack of of uh a mother in the household but there's clearly a slow decline in IQ that's that's happening and and and that's why people you know people like oh everybody's dumb and they kind of laugh

01:09:22 about it I'm like no I think you're actually right and I think there's there's real precedent for this but do you think it's IQ because there's plenty of high IQ people that are supporting Kamala right now yeah I mean but you can convince your thing of you can convince yourself of anything so they've convinced themselves that like like that's that's kind of being manipulated for a reason there's some people that just come to the wrong conclusion which I believe is like an IQ issue gotcha and like I guess your

01:09:46 ability for people to manipulate you is different at a high IQ sure but if you have a low IQ it's like for I believe they've manipulated themselves if you have a high IQ and you're voting for the the Democratic party currently as it sits uh I believe you manipulated yourself into doing that you know it's like when people are like why did you do this job oh because my my dad told me to it's like you just kind of got you manipulated yourself into it yeah um and but some people are manipulated by what

01:10:13 they see on the news and the TV and everything else and I I think it takes a lower IQ to be manipulated in that way well you know there's such a hate for Trump too I mean so I get it too I hear his rhetoric the last few weeks he turned me off with the with the whole kamala's Indie and noi's black focusing on that because I mean the reality is you're not going to gain any new voters and when you just like bash Rogan for no reason oh gosh man it's like that's the worst dude you're every UFC fight and like like do

01:10:44 do you really think these people are gonna boo Joe Rogan I think that they actually like Joe Rogan more than you they like you they love Joe Rogan yeah I mean so some of these mobes it's like I've just never understood um you know and he's just mad that Rogan w't do a podcast with him I mean that's really what it comes down to they tried a many times and Rogan's like no I'm good yeah um I mean it's interesting man I I look at uh you know people's thought process I actually can see why somebody would vote for uh kamla I I can uh from

01:11:16 the perspective of they hate Trump so much they think he's just such a bad person that anybody is better than him yeah so that's where I get is that if you think who the person office is matters I get there um I don't really care and and like the thing what I love about that argument it's like a cool she got her job from having an affair with the mayor of San Francisco like that is her start this is a known thing this isn't conspiracy theorist this is like a known thing we know because Bobby is

01:11:41 Bobby Brown his name uh no it was um it wasn't Bobby Brown but I I do know who you're talking about though whoever the mayor was he he wrote about it he was so proud of it he's like I gave her a start yeah he gave her a start all right um and so you know her her morals are questionable too and it's I think it's sad when you know when both people R in for president have questionable morals yeah um yeah it it's at the end of the day I can't do anything and you can't really do anything because Tennessee is going

01:12:14 to go red right so we've done our part no absolutely it's just a interesting thought experiment as to how people are thinking in the country because it it seems like we're we're moving towards the the idiocracy movie I mean it's just more and more idiocracy every single day and we got to get families together it's the only thing I can think of I mean that's when I see this it's like man I I get how you get to there if you didn't grow up with a mom or your parents worked all the time or you know it's just like I think when

01:12:45 you the fabric of America is the family unit and when you start to destroy that family unit it would be an interesting poll to see married couples uh who they're voting for I've never seen that yeah married couples with kids might be a good one yeah married couples with kids Trump or Cala Kamala Kamala Trump or Kamala I don't want to disrespect uh her name um but I would think that the families would be more conservative I look at like the the black communities too and I understand why they would vote Democrat as in uh

01:13:21 the Democrats really Market to the black communities but you know you look at a lot lot of the uh black families they are more conservative in their thought process I've got some friends that are black on the uh in the state house and you know they're pretty conservative people uh you know they're just part of the democratic party and um it's pretty interesting I think the Republicans have done a really bad job of explaining why their policies are better um and didn't really focus on it until now I think

01:13:51 we're going to see a lot more black people voting for Trump this go around which is which is pretty cool I mean when they realize the party that they've they've supported uh for the last 40 or 50 years uh has done absolutely nothing for them you know even look at the after the Civil Rights act when they started uh you know incentivizing uh black women to not be with their man because they got more money uh on the uh you know from from the government um breaking up families I mean uh the problem right now in the

01:14:23 inner cities is you you don't have fathers in the homes I mean it's fatherless homes and that's not racist to say that they like to try to suggest that somehow it's racist to say that I wish that every family had a mom and dad in the home because when you don't have a you don't have a father in the home and you have a boy you know he's not like a woman does not know how to raise a man generally yeah it's different it's very different yeah it's like oh well how does how do so many of these kids end up lost it's like well

01:14:54 yeah they don't have a guiding star that's right um it it's such a motivation for me as a as a dad of like I'm choosing to spend a lot of my time with my kids uh because I I believe that investment is good for society yeah um yeah that's that's one if I ever got into politics I'd want to tackle publicly as a white dude speaking very openly about it because I think the the language that we use to people matters as well so when we call people marginalized or oppressed or we tell them that the whole system is against

01:15:32 them you know the worst thing that could happen is they believe that yeah because if they believe that it is I mean you know think about the things that you and I go through every day we choose to look at things in a certain way we could also choose to see how the world is always against us how many employees have told you when they quit um you know this business is not going to exist when I'm not here oh yeah God yeah it's like this silly like like I'm sure in your head that's how you know but if I was to believe that you

01:16:03 know it's like the Think and Grow Rich I always thought was really silly until I realized like oh pretty much every SES entrepreneur I know believe they would be somebody absolutely you have to believe it and you know I think there's a lot of well-intended people that that use these terms marginalized oppressed or you know really uh you know pushing that there systemic racism and these type of things but all that does you if you know about success we know about how to be successful all that does is teach

01:16:34 people to be losers there's a there's a ministry here that helps like black entrepreneurs called corner to corner MH and they're like well we help underprivileged entrepreneurs is what is what they say and I'm like yeah all entrepreneurs are yeah you know like um and where where I think so many of these nonprofits get it wrong especially them and I'm involved with them and I've told them this so that's why I can talk about it which is that like you're playing this game that like you're everybody's

01:17:02 cheerleader mhm and you need to tell some of these people that's a terrible business idea like we don't need more food trucks like we don't need another barbecue truck like somebody should tell you this um when you start a nacho company and you get your cheese from Costco like you're you're not there's nothing special right um when you sell uh candles it's like if you really want a candle business and there was actually something unique about this candle business and I I worked with the founder

01:17:32 and and we got her in in lots of places by just saying that she was black it was a blackowned business and there were people looking for black owned businesses I mean it was racist but it is it worked for her and her Advantage um but I just say like you know if this fails if nobody wants this it's because the candle sucks it's not cuz you're black I just want you to understand that like from from the start and I think that's just so important for people saying that like business is freaking tough for everybody yeah

01:17:58 regardless it's all tough well and you know they talk about the gender pay Gap as well which is the biggest [ __ ] ever I mean imagine this if we could hire just women and save 26% yeah on their salaries I would be just hiring women that would be awesome yeah uh but it's not the case it's not the case women work Less hours a lot of the studies um I mean it's really interesting they're doing the entire pay not considering ours worked I'm like let's let's break this down by the hour and see if women are actually paid less

01:18:37 than men it's not a thing it's completely made up yeah and it's like because like every I know thousands of entrepreneurs I really know I know so many entrepreneurs and never once haveone ever been like well I like to hire women in this role because I get them for 20 grand a year or less you know it's like it's not a thing it's not a thing I me we pay we pay on Roll yeah like if you want to be account manager company starts at 80 can go up to about 105 yeah and we have currently of our account managers like seven of them are

01:19:07 women yeah um and and I would say like five of the highest earners are women and they're women without kids and they're women that want to make a bunch of money and they like you know they're driven for this job yep um and like sales like same thing like I don't know I just hire people that are good at sales like I don't you know I don't read resumés I just interview people and then I'm like you know what did you do at your previous company like all right I'll give you a shot exactly it's it's about Merit you know if you're a

01:19:33 business owner and you can save 26% you're going to save it number one and I mean I look at my company I was just actually doing the math the other day um the majority uh of our um directors are women and that was not intentional yeah that was just because they're the best people for the job our top patient intake is a woman uh and that's awesome I you know I don't give a [ __ ] whether someone's a man or woman I do not care I care about Merit and you know are they are they the best person for the job and

01:20:03 I think you know any business owner feels you know that same way we have a we had a sales call with some woke nonprofit and they were like um I couldn't find your dni statement on your website yeah we don't have one and I and I was like you couldn't I was like okay I'll get that to you after this call I just went to chat gbt I was like just write a dni statement just emailed whatever um and I was like yeah you we're just we're not racist if that's what you're wondering um it's like well no I was looking for more of like the

01:20:30 makeup I was like oh yeah I mean um people apply at the job and the best people we try to hire and um you know thankfully I'm like one of the few like white people white males at our company um we have a lot of uh I just kind of everybody but it's like typically people that do good in Tech are not like we have a lot of Indian and Asian and like you know people are good at math um and Asians are really good at math like this is It's not it's just a fact how could you say that uh yeah and so but it was

01:20:59 so funny because I sent this I just sent this chaty P generated statement on a Google doc that I like literally pasted and S over I was like here's our D statement she's like great um we just subscribed online and but our onboarding call I was like sounds good like they were just looking to check a Bots I like yeah I'll help you check the Bots no problem yeah well our company's like the anti Dei if some if a customer asked for that I would tell them they're not the customer for us personally um and I

01:21:26 mean you know we have a podcast that right I have a podcast that I I talk about anything and everything so uh you know customers could listen and say oh I don't want to do business with you and that would be that's perfect this is set up to where they can watch our podcast and if you don't like like me please don't come to our hospital please don't let us help save your life or fix an issue that you have please because you're not the type of customer that we that we want we don't want uh this it's

01:22:04 like the woke mind virus we don't want those type of customers because they bring everybody else down they nag and they look to be victims and they look to complain and you know a lot of them are Caren we don't want those type of people so um you know when I hear that I'm like who I me my per like who I understand it's your business I'm not knocking what you did by the way but I would just be like who gives a [ __ ] why why do you care so much so that is that is why I sent it because I'm like I just don't

01:22:32 care like if they were like watch this podcast and we like you don't actually care about D it doesn't you know because again we have so many customers we have tons of customers of B tiny amounts so when one leaves we don't notice one gains we don't really notice sure and so uh you know the good news is is these customers met me one time on a sales call never talked to me again so they never think about me it's just fine um I get it too by the way I'm not I'm like to not knocking I'm just saying like

01:22:57 ours is designed that way we are designed to not have wokies coming to us and uh see it's kind of like fun for us like we like when we get somebody with like pronouns and like the Indian Territory that their office is on yeah we're like oh man they're supporting us like they're supporting me to wear a Maga hat around the office like like I like to me it's like a fun little game um and so I don't know I kind of like enjoy it because it's this um like we had a customer uh so when I was running rabbit you know the BM riots

01:23:32 happened and um you know when everybody posted a black Square on social media y um so I was like what is you know like this is I've just always been about making change and so it's like I don't think posting a black Square on Instagram is going to make people like not be racist anymore right um and uh and it's only people that aren't racist that post it you know it's not like some KK K member um in Royal South Carolina woke up one morning was like you know what I don't howte block people anymore

01:24:01 you know it's like the people that you're trying to change aren't affected by this but anyway so I posted a white square and then I I wrote you're really white to do that and I wrote like hey um this doesn't do anything this is this is just a so this is just social this is just people to pretend like they're making a difference virtue signaling yeah it's just you're you're out there I wrote this like long post about it um that was like I'm posting this to you to stop scrolling in your timeline and be

01:24:31 like wait am I just doing this cuz everybody else is doing this um because you've never done anything racist in your life you've never liked like you have nothing to you know what is this um and uh one guy got well lots of people got very upset about that uh but one guy in particular hired a call team in the Philippines to call every place that had a rabbit kiosk um and tell them that the CEO was like a white supremacist and you get rid of our units yeah and so what he found in this though is that like somebody from the

01:25:05 Philippines calls a bar and they're like yeah I can help yeah we're it's HS feet you know they're like oh we just want to let you know the rabbit like I don't know I don't even know what you're talking about like oh you the thing that charges phones like what and then they got off the phone like hey like somebody just called about some something to do with the owner like a racist of the was like what and like you know like every just everybody was like I don't know what we didn't lose a single nobody

01:25:27 cared yeah um and uh and so then I just like was like Hey I'm going to sue you for defamation of character for saying you know calling all my because he BR about this on soci this is what I love about people like he committed a crime and then he wrote about it online y uh and then uh you know that all got settled I'll just say that and uh but it was it was so funny to me this that that whole movement that everybody is like posting a black Square it's like what are you even my conservative I mean like everybody was

01:25:56 and I was like I don't know what you think this does yeah I mean I I you know 2020 was a different time you know it that was the the height of the woke Insanity as in they were going crazy and they had a big Edge on uh you know I say normal people because their arguments were so bad and illogical that I didn't know how to argue a lot of it I'm like this is just too so stupid how do you counter stupidity here this is like you know you think it's good for men biological men to compete in female sports and you're convincing me that

01:26:38 there's no difference at the testost I all this crazy oh that's only science I know they're full of [ __ ] and so it was really hard it took me a couple years to figure out how to uh respond to it at this point um and it's really just calling them out on their [ __ ] and saying no I don't agree and um it's um they went complete libt tart you ever watch the uh um what is the uh what is the Warr what's the movie nobody goes full yeah Tropic Thunder he's like uh nobody nobody goes full [ __ ] it's like

01:27:13 nobody goes full liard they went full libtard on us yeah I was like I remember uh one of my good friends was telling me that like um race like it's imposs possible for a black person to be racist yeah that's the that's taught the schools and I was like wait what cuz they don't have power and it's yeah and I was like I was like all right so like if you come to me and you're like I hate you because you're white isn't that you're hating me because of my skin color therefore it's racist and like we

01:27:43 were and he was like well no because like you like white people have more power than black people like well that is that's stupid you know and so like you just we getting these conversations like what is happening um you even talking about you so that that's been T taught in the historic black colleges for years I mean I had a guidance counselor uh when I was in high school that I actually learned a lot from him uh he was uh went to a historic black college it was in a fraternity and um you know a lot of

01:28:12 those ideas I thought were really bad at the time but I'm like I I've learned a lot about um you know how Academia uh historic black college Academia is teaching people I'm sure that's how the rest of the Academia is taught now now um but then I had my coach my MMA coach I went to historic black college as well Lloyd Irvin one of my main mentors also was in a fraternity a que uh and then um Rody Ferguson he went to Howard also historic black college fraternity the queue with Lloyd I I man I was his agent he always joked

01:28:45 that I was the only white guy that could ever be his agent um and then dedric Perry my business partner historic black college fraternity as well and so I've got the I've had so many conversations about what is taught and I think a lot of it's [ __ ] and and uh Rody might have a different view but you know Lloyd and uh dedric would agree as well that the how they position it just isn't accurate but they really believe that you have to you can't be racist and uh black it can only be racist if you're

01:29:19 white because the structure of power and it's a really bad idea it's not well thought out but it is Tau and people actually believe it and now I'm hearing white people finally be like you know what that's [ __ ] like whatever your definition of racism you know exactly what I'm saying maybe not the perfect scholarly definition of racism but you know if you don't like somebody because of the color of their skin you're racist and right now you're seeing uh racism towards white people whether people like

01:29:45 to say it or not it's pure racism if you don't like me because I'm white you're a racist and I think I'm better than you in that because of that and I've been fighting for black people my whole damn life I mean my whole life I've got you know my my fight team uh I was maybe 20% white was our fight team and you know I was one of the crackers as they would joke with me on the team and I love them joking with me about that type of stuff and you know it's been such a part of my life for so long that I didn't even

01:30:19 realize until covid uh the the the George Floyd thing I was walking down the street with dead Perry my business partner and I was like damn man it's the first time I've ever thought I'm walking with a black man I've never seen him like that I know it's like it's sad that it got programmed even into my head to believe this [ __ ] to see us as different when we should be looking at each other as brothers yeah I remember that whole thing of like um like I was raised at like um you know like I don't

01:30:46 see color was a good thing to say and then apparently that was racist then it's like um I don't know it's it's always been um it's it's really sad when people think and this is again I see entrepreneurship a lot like they think they fail because they're black and like and it's like oh man um it's business is incredibly tough man like I don't you failed because it's tough yeah and it's like such a a a tough you know it's like oh well black people raise less money than white put on this I'm like I don't know I've like

01:31:21 I've never raised money so I have money yeah I mean I did for rabbit um and I was like but yeah there's just always um when people are sharp people are sharp when people are charismatic people are charismatic and and and that that is what it is I mean you meet people and you're like this person's exceptional me people you're like this person's not um and uh it's it's such an unfortunate like virus of the mind for you to to go down this slippery slope of like oh you know like um when people spend their

01:31:55 whole life like trying to prove their dad wrong or whatever it's just these these simple like all it is is just reprogramming your brain to lose yeah that's that's that's what they're doing it and now as a society we're just kind of doing that at scale that's you're exactly right at scale and we're teaching people that they're a victim to have a victim mentality there's no way to be successful with a victim mentality you got to be personally responsible for your life you know you can have circumstances come at you but you can't

01:32:19 blame the circumstances for your lack of success and yeah it's it's it's it's a virus they're they're they're telling people you're marginalized you're oppressed oh you can't do this because you're black like what if those kids believe it if they believe it they're going to be that and so it's one of my biggest things I talk about this a lot because it bothers me I can see why people aren't successful it's because people have taught them that the world is against them when the reality is you're born in America it's the greatest

01:32:48 country in the world it's the easiest to start a business people that move here legally and uh work in America are four times more likely to become millionaires than somebody that was born here why is that they see the American dream it's the land of opportunity and it's just a bunch of [ __ ] that we're seeing and we have to call it out publicly and and we have to fight back because if not we're just going to have a bunch of little sissies that are so afraid to rock the boat so afraid to cause any

01:33:18 problem so afraid to be called racist that uh we live in the society that we live in today it's like you know the one thing is I always post like controversial takes and I just instantly get like 50 DMS and it's like and people like oh man I thought the same thing it's like well you don't write about it or talk about it or publicly agree to it yeah um and and that's why I love you know having a business where we have customers literally all over the world is like my beliefs never never affect our business and uh one of my friends

01:33:46 always says like dude sometimes if I wake up early in the morning and I see a fresh story from you I'm like I wonder if you chose War today uh it's cuz I just like to think through through these these things and um there's a lot of when you get the conclusion wrong I guess I'm terrified of dying and getting the conclusion wrong right so like uh I was explaining to a friend how silly it is to be Mormon like it's just a you know Joseph Smith is a con man and he got murdered for being a con man rightfully so um and

01:34:19 that's being friendly I mean um he's obviously a child molester since his youngest wife was like 11 de we but the scrs existed Jesus never came and shared theel to the na Americans you know like it's just a silly you're not going to die and get your own planet and populate it yourself and become your own God and like you know it's silly right um and he's like why like we're such good friends why would you like put a put something in the middle of our friendship over this and I'm like because I just don't I feel

01:34:48 this heavy conviction I don't want to die believing something that's not true and so I'm just always challenging these things cuz it's like that's what I it would be a not a life well- lived if I left this Earth and I got some things wrong mhm and so I just try to like really think through why do I believe this why do I do the things I do why am I um and I I feel like what it's done has made me in a ethinic version of myself where I'm okay being me MH um you know all the times I wear um I like to

01:35:17 wear suits all the time and um I have some pretty loud crazy suits be like oh it's for attention it's for this and it's like no I just thought it was cool got it you know it's like I didn't I didn't need to play that game you know nobody nobody sees me in a loud suit it's like oh I own a business can you manage my website you know it's there's no gain to me it's just I like it yeah um and uh it's so that's what I'm always trying to do is just challenge myself like why do you believe this and and I

01:35:42 think as a society um that's going to be more and more important as people are having to unlearn everything they've learned most of their life yeah you know cuz that's I mean as an entrepreneur how much how much of your first I don't know 10 years in business was unlearning things you thought you knew about life in business that's every day like my dad told me every I feel like every damn day of my life growing up like if somebody drives a Ferrari that means they make too much money that means they're a scam

01:36:11 artist you know what I found out when I bought a Ferrari what's up is that people want to work with a guy that drives a Ferrari they go that guy's good at his job yeah you know it's like like you tell yourself these lies and then you're like oh that's not true yeah it's so true man you think about the stories that we're told as a child and we believe that might not even be real and how much that holds us back our entire life I know I mean that's a good that's a great example right there yeah you

01:36:36 know you could have kept that limiting belief for that story that is not true you could have lived a lie your whole life and not know that you're Liv a lie that's why it's important to seek the truth my friend Joe like a a brilliant guy he's a dentist um very successful owns a bunch of real estate loves cars obsessed with them like I don't take photos of people's cars I don't care about what people drive I like to drive fast that's why I have a fast car um not status symbol anything else like I just

01:37:02 want to go 200 on the interstate and so he is like that's illegal in Mexico I go 200 to be clear um and uh loves cars tons of cash and I'm like dude just go buy a just go buy a super it's your dream you're obsessed with them you got a car you do all that stuff I don't go to car shows like and he's and he's just like oh I just got to you know he just can't he's got this mental block that it's like a bad thing to spend that much money he just can't get there even though it's like his favorite thing yeah

01:37:28 and it's like cool you're just going to there there is a something you're just withholding with yourself because you've convinced yourself something that isn't true some some story yeah yeah no some story you believed yeah I mean how much do you think that affects the average person's success what's the stat that like uh 5% of guys date 95% of women or something uh probably you know and I was like I am happily married um but like I did very very well on Tinder and I feel like I could meet any girl and like you know get her

01:38:04 number get to know her go on a date or whatever um and it's just because like yeah I I feel highly confident that uh I'm like you know a good partner and I'm an interesting person and I'm like yeah you probably want to talk to somebody who's interesting um and so like I you know you can go to any like I go to most scenarios um you know I don't really plan things I'm not really a planner and I just kind of assume everything will work out perfectly and my wife just drives this drives her crazy I'm like yeah it just

01:38:33 does you know like I was in Japan I went into the nicest Steakhouse uh they're like oh we're book out reservations for a year and I was like well can you get me and my friends in it's my birthday tomorrow and he was like yeah this person didn't show up right this way I was like sweet wow and so I just like I don't know I just kind of I don't I hate you know I don't speaking into existence or naming a claim or you know I don't have any silly game around it I just kind of think like yeah things are going

01:38:57 to work out the way they're going to work out and uh it'll probably be the right direction yeah I mean that's how I'm here today like Warren Ted me I like yeah words um well we got to wrap this thing up here shortly let me uh see uh we've talked on the future U what Legacy do you hope to leave behind a lot of people uh I saw this meme that's like nobody will remember uh you know how successful you were how rich you were whatever but they will remember how hot your wife was and it like made me like

01:39:33 die out laughing that's funny I don't think anybody's going to remember anything about me and as president maybe they remember that I was a president um I hope my kids know that I was willing to give it all um and that's for them that's for our country that's for what I believe so you know if you held a gun to me right now and we're like you know um you know I don't know declare faith in uh Muhammad or whatever i' like no take it take my life you know like I just I I want my kids to feel secure and in being

01:40:04 who they are and what they believe and so so that is what I want my legacy to be is that like um I'm not you can't hold anything over me I can't be bought I can't be told what to do um and I don't say that as a pride arrogant stance it's just like that's what I want Legacy to be is that I was my own person and I came to a lot of my conclusions and a lot of my beliefs through lots of study lots of reading lots of prayer and and that's what I hope my kids gain is that like you know our dad was was who

01:40:33 he was and he he wanted us to be who we are um and so all I can is uh is show up and and be a good strong presence and I know that God will craft them into who they're supposed to be awesome awesome someone wants to see your uh uh your your company where do they go uh 1 19.com Onie and and.com one n.com thanks for coming brother thanks for having me all right