ECS EP40 - Jessica Sutta Transcript

00:00:00 everything we have been taught in this whole society has been a lie it's been to manipulate to control you have an incredible story because people know who you are you get the vaccine and you have horrific side effects almost kills you I developed a Tremor and head jerks and leg jerks I'm like this is it this is how I'm going to die I have my son my husband it's beautiful life and now it's the end the Pussycat Dolls were one of the biggest AXS in the world for a while what was it like when you first hit big


00:00:27 with the group it was a little hard for me cuz people were starting to treat me differently it felt surreal it felt like a dream but they worked us to death Kennedy and Trump have the make America healthy again campaign there's a big issue with processed foods Kennedy coming in that's the number one thing I think he would take the poison out of our food they're hiding the deadliest secret from you Jessica setup uh you are a former member of the iconic group uh the Pussycat Dolls uh recently uh you had a


00:00:58 major Health crisis after vacc ation of the covid-19 madna vaccine since then uh you've become an advocate and activist uh for those that have been injured by vaccines whether from the covid-19 vaccine or others Jessica welcome to the podcast thank you so much for having me Ed what an honor yeah thank you we've been talking for a while uh Rogan introduced us probably a year and a half ago or so year and a half ago yeah and uh you've been going through a lot I've learned a lot about your story and great


00:01:28 to finally meet you in person great to finally meet you person and I just have to start with thank you so much for your kindness and your just tenacity to to find answers for me when you didn't even really know me um I just appreciate what you did for me because I was so I was such an outcast in Hollywood wasn't talking to anyone in the neighborhood I just felt so isolated so that when people showed me kindness and that they understood what where I was coming from it meant a lot yeah so thank you I'm


00:01:56 very H happy to do it and you you're a good person dude thank you thank you well we see like what was going on with covid and um you know initially 2020 March I was one of the first people on the internet to start speaking out against this like and I was reading the studies um I read scientific papers every day and so I was like this isn't adding up and they're not asking this question and um the epidemiological studies they were doing are only as good as um you know their presumptions so it's it's not science in the sense that


00:02:31 when people think of science they think this is what it is this is what it isn't right but when you are putting in variables to numbers uh that are are just guesses at best uh that's not like the science that people think it is so took a lot of heat in the beginning and that you could read science that way people have been just trained to read science with like the dollar sign right it's just kind of like s blindly trust this the the science that they're just ramming down your throat and this is


00:02:59 safe and effective and and it's all can I cuss on this oh yeah [ __ ] yeah it is it is all [ __ ] you're so lucky that you had that that type of um brain to be able to really investigate it cuz I didn't I was completely you were shadowbound probably at that point I was I had no access to any of this information so I was blindly trusting mainstream media well I knew it was really crazy when I did an interview the first thing I thought with covid was ozone therapy should be really good for it and I tell people this about ozone I


00:03:32 mean obviously CPI we're we're a stem cell company um and you know that's it's a stem cells work great for a lot of different things but if I were to choose one thing in my life that could keep me the healthiest it's ozone because it does a lot a lot for you and uh so my first thought was ozone for covid um and so I started um Googling to see if there's different clinical trials around the world for it different languages and things like that and uh sure enough there was a a doctor in Italy that was actually doing a clinical


00:04:04 trial and I interviewed him he had 36 patients uh in the study 35 were pre IU one was in the ICU everybody got out of it without dying and so got him on an interview and that podcast got taken down from YouTube and I got completely shadowbanned we were just talking about a clinical trial this is what we should be talking about this is science not supposed to talk about it yeah so um it was with YouTube that that shocked me the most and she just passed away who who did the CEO of YouTube that was


00:04:36 censoring all of the information that was so vital for us to learn about wow yeah I got dropped from YouTube as soon as I came out about my vaccine injury yeah yeah I didn't even yeah yeah it's a long story but shocking to me you RFK said you know win in history have the good guys censored exactly you got to question what's going on and unfortunately I know there's a lot of us but there's still people just entranced by the scops that has been put on us you know yes I really pray they wake up soon


00:05:05 because at this point I just can't I just have to surrender to it you know what I mean I just can't I can't scream any louder about what I've gone through in my life the past three years so when when covid first came out what was your position on it all the way up to the the vaccine I was a lefty all the way believed it all I watched the numbers of the death Pole just rise and I was scared and I got pregnant through throughout this all so I was even crazier my hormones are all at a whack and I'm reading propaganda that women


00:05:39 that get it are going to die and never meet their baby and like all this crazy stuff and then yeah no I was fully entranced in it I was um and I did believe in the idea of vaccines I mean the idea of it is a beautiful thing it's a life-saving modality why would why would you hate that right so yeah no I was I was gullible in it you know I yeah I I liked everyone on TV at that point yeah and U and so you know you were kind of you took a hook Li and sinker like a lot of people did and you're you know obviously not I give the


00:06:16 air quotes antiva um at that point at that point yeah at that point and um and then so you you have an incredible story because you know you were uh you know very well known people know who you are you have a platform you get the vaccine and you have horrific side effects almost kills you it almost killed me I think it did like it almost did to be honest with you I felt like I was at the brink of death and it was the scariest you know two years of my life when it was really bad it's gotten better it's still I'm not


00:06:49 the the same anymore but it was it was so bad that I would stare at the ceiling and I'm like this is it this is how I'm going to die I have all my dreams are coming true right now I have my son my husband this beautiful life and now it's the end you know and no one could see it yeah so H how did it happen so you got the vaccine was that the first or second shot that she started getting the the side effects um okay so I wasn't going to get the vaccine but last minute I just decided the news said hey you're


00:07:14 going to protect your kid just had my baby right I'm like I have to do this so I went to CVS and um 3 days after the shot I woke up with the muscle spasm in my back that didn't leave my body and I'm a dancer so I know my body really well I felt like I broke a rib it was like burning and um I took I did every modality I could massage acupuncture nothing was taking it out so about 2 weeks later September 15th I went um to the hospital and they ran all these tests they did see that I had a lower heartbeat um


00:07:43 heart rate and they put EKG on me ran all these tests nothing indicated anything so they sent me home with antibiotics um no correlation to the first shot so they said I didn't think it had anything to do with it I just thought maybe I just slept on my back wrong or whatever so I went and got the second shot I guess it was a week later and that's when it completely did me in uh neurologically uh it was so bad um my whole body was taken over by this uh how short how shortly after you got the vaccine did you have the neurological


00:08:15 issues it was about a week after the second shot is when I started like I had Phantom crying from giving birth right you know giving a having a baby and um you have Phantom crying uh but it was like three times worse it was just wild and my I couldn't think straight I had the worst brain fog and the burning I couldn't breathe it was like stabbing in my uh my rib and um I finally got that muscle spasm out as soon as that went out it spread through my whole body and my rib cage and then I developed a


00:08:47 Tremor and head jerks and leg jerks and it was so terrifying um yeah it it was it was unbelievable so I ended up in the hospital again that was about a week afterwards uh this is uh um no I ended at the hospital a couple months later um and this was right after I had been um diagnosed with an adverse reaction to the vaccine and I saw this neurologist and he's like yeah it sounds like you had an adverse reaction like well what does that even mean and how many are there of us and at that time he said


00:09:16 there was like 50 in his his practice wow this is one doctor yep so I ended up in the hospital cuz the burning in my rib cage was so severe I just thought I was going to die I thought I was just going to drop dead I mean it ripped through my rib cage up and down my spine my whole body aches all my joints everything um and yeah they tested me nothing indicated anything they they thought maybe it had transvers mtis Ms because I did develop um what is it called uh on my my spine um I can't remember the the name of it oh my God


00:09:49 I'm totally blanking out on your show right now um but anyway uh when you have what is it called anyway uh but that went away because it was actually from a chiropractor that hurt my back um so then they now it's developed into um an autoimmune in the lupus family and soran's family so it's a brand new um autoimmune disease yeah if people see you moving around today you share with me before the show you're having spasms in your back that go into your lungs we speak yeah it goes it wraps around my


00:10:23 lung it's crazy I had to like take a second when I met you I was like I just need to sit down get my heating pad uh because although it feels a lot better than it did I still have moments where I can't I'm just like I'm laying down and I can't move yeah like stabbing in my my um lung and so you know when this happened how shortly after did you start talking about it publicly and what was the reaction from from the public yeah um after um you know going to the hospital and being gaset so badly I was really


00:11:01 seeking some sort of like answers and I wasn't finding it on the internet it was really hard cuz I think all my feed was left it wasn't the right it wasn't the conspiracy theories so I had to really dig deep um and then one night um I was kind of looking through Instagram and I came across a round table um with Senator Ron Johnson um and it was about vaccine injury and um talking about you know the deaths of these of all these children that took the vaccine and it was this and there was this one woman


00:11:29 named Brianne dren uh who was on the CL clinical trials of astroica and um she got severely injured with very similar um symptoms to what I have and um I like that that's that whole what she was saying was resonating so deep in me and I was like finally I'm I'm I can understand what's going on like I'm not the only one so um I dug deep with that and she has a charity called react 19 which helps the vaccine injured and the bereaved sets a community set you with a set a set of doctors and really helps you because


00:12:03 when you come out with such a taboo thing which it shouldn't be it was an adverse reaction to a vaccine there's side effects to every medication why is this so taboo and why is why do we have to be ostracized from society about this it's absolutely absurd um so uh I reached out to her to their their Instagram and I was like hey I'm you know I'm Jessica I'm vaccine injured I'm I'm scared to death to speak out but I'm so grateful for you guys and thank you for speaking out and um through my relationship with them um I


00:12:35 got to know Brie she's amazing then I met all these vaccine injured people and edn I tell you you think it's rare this is not rare there is so many people and then when I was um kind of just interacting in the same room with people that were severely injured it really struck a chord with me I'm like I need to speak out I need to say something I I mean E entertainment is not going to take me they were happy when I got pregnant the fans weren't but E entertainment you know they announced that but when it comes down to something


00:13:04 that could actually help the public and stop this from happening to anyone else I wasn't asked to you know so I ended up doing a conservative Network um American thought Leaders with Yan yep um and Epoch which uh thank God for Epoch because you know real journalism has just been so hard to find so I was able to find that through my rabbit hole search alongside with Bobby Kennedy which is another part of the story story um so yeah I uh I'm really grateful for Bri and um I just this whole experience has just


00:13:40 absolutely changed my life completely yeah what has um what has the roller coaster been you know like so you got the vaccine you couple months later you're in the hospital because of it it's clear you have people gaslighting you yeah you uh join a nonprofit that's helping those people you see a lot of people that are that are going through it what is that like in your brain I mean I'm sure it's confusing because you you're like is everything I've been told a lie you know yeah I think at the brink of death it


00:14:15 felt like staring at the ceiling at 3: in the morning I realize that everything we have been taught in this whole society has been a lie it's been to manipulate to control um it really as much as it hurt it gave me the greatest Awakening of my life M and I needed to be humbled you know what I mean I feel like Hollywood just has a way like being in a pop group they they want to inflate your ego you kind of have to have some sort of narcissistic way about you to kind of uphold this image and boy it did


00:14:45 it inflate me man it changed me completely and uh I'm you know there was great times and there was times when I was an alcoholic and it was ugly and I didn't treat people very nicely especially like management stuff like it it went dark for me so this was a a humbling experience to the point where I'm grateful for that cuz it brought me closer to God it allowed me to repent in a way where I can just turn my life around and see things different and when I look back I don't regret being the [ __ ] cat dolls I loved it so much would


00:15:17 I go back hell no but um just seeing where I resided as a person is is so different from where I'm at now you know and I'm grateful for that because luckily wasn't a narcissist so that went away but it's like wow you make the world revolve around you you know what I mean um and I don't like that that's why I'm not glamorized by Hollywood anymore I think it's weird um I don't think you should idolize anyone you have respect sure but the idolization is very strange to me yeah so yeah when you when you did


00:15:49 the epoch interview uh what was the reaction like yeah um it was not good it was like I'm unfollowing you and all capital was like how dare you I'm like oh my God if it was how dare you tell the truth about what happened to you dare right exactly I'm saying this so it doesn't happen to you right and I think the Sops the fifth generational Warfare that Robert Malone always talks about you know like um Mass formation psychosis when you break that narrative boy you get angry and I get it cuz I went through grief when I came out like


00:16:23 when I when I got sick right it was like so many different layers of just like disbelief and disassoc assciation and like holy [ __ ] like this is not fair you know what I mean so I get it and that's what's going to happen when people wake up and realize the severity of vaccine injury which uh which vaccine did you get madna madna so madna is about three times stronger than the fiser basically the same vaccine yeah I know they they don't have the studies for that out yet they're going to wait 75 years for the


00:16:53 fiser one I mean why aren't people questioning that they're just going along as I see like Megan the sing on stage you know it's just so strange where our society has just been dumbed down well yeah you know and to me and I think about this a lot because I'm just trying to figure out how to you know get people let's say on the other side to at least have a conversation right but there's been such a scop that conversations uh you know put you in a box of you know antivaxx or or you know uh racist or homophobic or transphobic


00:17:31 and it's like no I just don't exactly agree with the way you're going about this I'm I'm not any of those things right so um you know I thought a lot about how how we get Society to to at least listen you know you do an interview with uh Epoch about your experience and saying hey this can happen which is everything you said there is truthful they covered it up not you and then they're so trained in society to attack anybody who has a different idea for sure you become this bad person they unfollow you you're


00:18:01 you're the devil you label these horrible things that are not true at all yes one of the things that I landed was homophobic I'm like oh my God like I have fought for gay rights my entire career I believe in gay marriage I believe in equality uh as consenting adults you can love whoever you want to love I believe that right but I think what what I want to stress to a lot of people cuz I've had a lot of comments on Instagram is like I love the gay community but I don't like this agenda that has been intermixed within you know


00:18:34 coming after the children right one of the um the nonprofits that I'm a part of is perk and it's uh it's for you know uh educational rights for children um the choice to give them vaccines or wear masks or whatever the freedom because we live in America right right the informed consent about anything coming up whether it's gender dysphoria or whatever you know what I mean but there's laws in California and there is our one that Nome just passed that they they don't have to tell the parent everything right


00:19:07 I'm sorry I'm a new mother the parents need to know everything that's going on with that kid because if they do specify themselves as the you know they them or whatever it may be the parents really need to be a part of it of course because gender dysphoria I do believe is a real thing I do know a few people right but the thing is is that they went through like 7 years of psychological intensive workshops and and to make the decision cuz you cannot reverse it and I get very afraid that like a lot of


00:19:39 outcast children feel like well if I do this I'll fit in yeah right so it becomes a trend but you can't reverse this and when this trend goes away that's where we're going to have to protect the gay community even more yeah because this whole thing that's gone on has regressed the gay community in 10 years back it feels like everything we worked for is just gone backwards yeah and it hurts my heart yeah it really does and um I just I hope people can understand that we just have to leave the children alone don't sexualize them


00:20:12 right now it's pissing everyone off because even I believe in gay marriage which I believe you can adopt a child if you're a gay couple but I'm seeing smear C campaigns against gay couples that have babies now what what the hell that's what we work for we were at a place where everyone was fine and now they're just like getting the repercussions of whatever this agenda this intermix is they're getting it it's not fair well uh it's interesting because I I supported gay marriage as well you know back even in my early


00:20:41 fighting days you know so before it was cool well well before Obama said that he didn't uh support gay marriage you know it's like people forget that 2008 um but you know I also grew up in the church and the elders in the church would always say if you give them this they're going to take it and eventually go after the kids and interesting and I was always like oh whatever and you know I still support gay marriage and those but but I also remember what they said and they saw this coming they thought this


00:21:14 was going to happen right and um so I told that before too it made me think you know and this is not at all knocking uh gay people at all I mean it has nothing to do with that it's that the you the trans issue and I also don't have anything against trans people as well yeah but when they are indoctrinating children to be a certain way um it really you know you got to draw the line somewhere right because let's say we just let this happen the next thing they're going to try to do is normalize pedophilia you know minor


00:21:49 attractive persons com it's coming down the pipeline it is and so that's the that's the plan so you know for just gay people out there uh listening like nothing against gay people nothing against trans people just saying at some point you have to draw the line right because ill intended people will take it too far eventually right so well and they'll use it as like a catalyst you know this beautiful moov we got to a place there they hijacked it yes you know they tried to do this in the 90s when they they did you know gay marches


00:22:24 in San Francisco and the pedophilia people were like Hey we're in here like no no no no no we're adults yeah that's not okay we're not okay with that you know yeah and you weren't just a supporter of the gay community you were an activist I was an activist I still am it just looks very different now yes no and I don't like the pronouns thing I just it's it's too much of like a mind F like I just like I don't get it no we Prides were you were proud of who you were in your own skin that was it now


00:22:53 it's like okay well you can have pride with who you are but we can also medically change you to kind of fit you into the thing and the can't have sex anymore but it's cool you know what I mean like it's just so bizarre to me no I want to protect them yeah this is this is coming from love absolutely so they can call me whatever they want and thank you Ed for asking me this I've been wanting to speak on this and I don't do many interviews I when I held MJ I was like I am done I don't want to be in


00:23:15 front of the camera anymore my son my three-year-old son um I was like I'm not going back to post Cat dolls you know so it wasn't even the injury that made me you know but um I know that I I have somewhat of a public Persona I guess is I come with five other girls so I I have the anonymity I'm lucky people don't know who I am unless I'm with the other girls which is great I resented that for so long but now oh love Yeah cuz people with cell phones they're just like oh we don't care we're just going to film you


00:23:43 privacy whatsoever I'm I'm cool I like to to you know and I don't ask for attention when I go out I'm just like chill living in Tennessee yeah having iced tea well yeah you you moved from Los Angeles to to Franklin yes I did so you're now here how long I fled you fled why did you flee dude it just got so crazy I I couldn't take my son out anywhere cuz there was robbing like rob you know robbings everywhere um there was a Rob robbery right when I was walking to the last store um in like to panga Canyon I couldn't believe it so


00:24:19 it's just not safe anymore I just felt isolated and I just I wasn't really vibing with people anymore I couldn't play pretend um I was around a lot of people that like laughed about my injury and out of spite would go get a booster just to be a jerk and I'm like I'm I'm going to the front line Co Critical Care conferences I'm seeing actual glass slides of autopsies of what the spike protein does I tur turbo cancer and they just didn't want to listen to me because they want fame and being an actor or a


00:24:49 singer or whatever it is so important that they just you know they laugh at the people against any anything just wild yeah that's the that's indoctrination it really is like a cult they're culty you know it's interesting like where we're at with Society it seems like when the media puts a label on somebody else yeah uh there it's actually the opposite right like the it's it's just you you're a narcissistic relationship the projection of it all yeah it's it's it's wild to watch um so you know you've seen a lot of people


00:25:24 that have been injured by the vaccine uh what are a couple of the the cases that really stick out to you that that you know had an impact well there's Nikki who has like three children um she was in a wheelchair with a feeding tube and just like she was a nurse and you know had the required shots and it completely paralyzed her and they just like turned their back on her all of them every single one um Ernest Ramirez his kid 17 years old going to play basketball after six days of the fiser shot drops dead


00:25:56 right so I you know I with react 19 and we went to DC to Lobby right so um we go and we just see the you know the senator AIDS we couldn't see many senators the only Senator we saw was Senator Ron Johnson who is a hero I love that man um so I'm sitting in the rooms with these parents these grieving parents um giving detailed accounts of how they found their child after the shot and when you look over at the aid it was just like glazed over could not like was thinking about Dunkin Donuts could not give a a


00:26:30 single [ __ ] I hate to say it like that but they couldn't and I just remember leaving and I was crying in the car I was coming back to LA I just crying I called my husband I'm like I can't these people don't care I was like this place is disgusting I never want to come back here again they're they don't care I can't believe it so like I I like walk up to my plane and I look up and there's Bobby Kennedy right in front of me oh wow yeah and that's when I met him on a on the flight back to LA really so so


00:26:57 you met him did you go talk to him how did that work yes I like I immediately like introduced myself and um it was great he's such a sweetheart and I was like I I was like listen I know you need to be here and all but I don't know why you want to live in this town these people don't care and they're you know and he laughed and he goes Jessica I want to tell you something he's they they've never done any safety testing no double blind PBO testing for any of the products that's right you're not going


00:27:22 crazy right so that was like a god shot for me where I was like all right I'm on the right track but there are too many of us there and we're being hidden and a lot are being misdiagnosed and if you have an autoimmune issue right after that vaccine like what I go through on a daily basis yeah it's vaccine injury and they say vaccine injury is real but you know Bobby Kennedy just came out saying that autism right is a vaccine injury which it is it's a brain injury that's not that rare is it so I I think 1 and


00:27:59 37 now jeez I believe that's what statistics it's it's wild they say that when you get the vaccine the doctor you know will say take Tylen off the baby is fussier in pain which is the worst thing that you can do because the receptors that the um that could expel the vaccine once you give it to the kid the Tylenol closes it off and doesn't allow it allow it to expel so that what that's what causes brain swelling and then brain injury yeah see I'm not as up on the autism thing I haven't you know done a


00:28:31 lot of research on it um I I'm not saying that it is or isn't I just haven't dug again I think that like from from what I've read the idea that autism has gotten worse and worse and worse yeah over the years makes you you should ask the question why and look into everything and you know I think it's logical to look into vaccines when uh vaccines have increased from uh you know to what they were in the 70s to what 79 now before you're 18 or something like that an outrageous amount and I have seen stories of you know anecdotal


00:29:03 stories individual patients that you know they gave their kid a shot um I was actually looking at one a couple nights ago gave her one-year-old or so a shot um that afternoon the kids in uh the emergency room in the hospital now for a couple weeks and it's like okay well you know we should look at those cases as vaccine injuries and it shouldn't be bad that we're asking questions that's what we should do just because we ask questions doesn't make us bad people or antiva or any of those things I mean we


00:29:31 have a a vaccine Lab at my hospital for cancer so it's like I'm what I'm a uh antivaxer vaccine lab owner I mean you know I mean it's uh and these are autologus vaccines where um you know we take a a piece of the patient's tumor and do different uh personalized vaccine for those metastatic cancer patients wow so um so I'm definitely not antiva and I I think that there's a place for them I don't know the prophylactic vaccine uh safety though and you can't really find good data on it and if you ask questions


00:30:06 they attack you so it makes me question it even more right right right right you know think about the FDA saying 75 years before we're going to release the information on these vaccines why would they want to wait 75 years because we'll all be Ted by then that's right that's right I mean it's you know unfortunate yeah it's wild everything that's come out with that too it's just like wow yeah 75 years it's still on the market MH it's still like I get text from CVS I'm like oh no yeah none of it would not


00:30:43 do that well you know my mom uh mom and dad got the vaccine and so with all the information that I had I'm still open to it you know I'm like okay well it looks like that people in this age group benefit the most and uh if someone was like morbidly obese and younger it's like okay at least from the data from what I could read it might make sense in these situation so we talked as a family my mom had rheumat arthritis um that's actually why you know we opened the hospitals for my mom heard and uh so we made a decision as a


00:31:17 family for her to get the vaccine yeah her ra came back nearly immediately and you know I can get upset I mean we made an educated decision you know so it's like I can take responsibility for that and feel better if I were to be in denial and it would happen I think I'd be more upset for sure but yeah um you know we made an educated decision it was uh what seems now to be the wrong decision um but you the idea that even saying that her rheumatologist won't give the vaccine to her arthritis patients anymore good


00:31:53 she's seen it so much so you know the information's so bad it's yeah it's so bad and you have these autoimmune responses where your immune system likely is just seeing this Spike protein and attacking and attacking and attacking it can't shut off right uh and then you have other parts of the immune system that downregulate so you have you're more susceptible to certain things in one area uh yet your immune system's eating yourself in another area yeah well that's what I did I forgot to tell you a after my second shot for


00:32:21 three months later I lost 50 PBS oh wow mhm yeah at it was my body was eating itself yeah yeah I was getting so many compliments I'm like well my body is eating so you know what kind of diet are you on go to CVS get them a turn shot you hook you up what was the how do you say SJ Shan syndrome Shan syndrome what is that so it's dry eye dry dry eye dry mouth I guess I blink more often now I don't know that was the first marker that came up but it can cause inflammation within the body but then the lupus marker has come up in the


00:32:53 lupus family so it's yeah it's a brand new brand new Auto autoimmun disease like what the H ding ding ding thank you fouchy yeah uh did you read um Bobby Kennedy's Book on fouy that book absolutely changed my life the co Gold Rush yeah unbelievable yeah and to think that the NIH had patents on the technology they sold it licensed it right to madna right um yeah it's it's it's just wild wild to think about after finding the table then I came across Bobby Ken I didn't know who Bobby was before that they had hit


00:33:32 him really well I knew Kennedy's were obviously um but wow what an outstanding human being he is like wow I like Bobby a lot um that book that book saved my life it took me right out of the SE psychosis you know I like oh okay here we go what's amazing too that book is so damning for fouchy yet you know it's not widely talked about well yeah and he can't sue um Bobby because Bobby has all these references you know I mean that's what I love about Bobby he's meticulous and thorough with everything yeah I mean it's funny with


00:34:04 him too you talking about like I was thinking about what happened with you people calling you uh homophobic when you've done all this work you know in the community for so long you know Bobby is um you know a great environmentalist and he's done more for the environment than you know almost anybody in the United States right yet uh he gets labeled you know climate change denier and you know they put you in these boxes that it's hard to defend because you're just like just look at my record but people don't they don't seem


00:34:32 to look at records these days when you wake up you sure do yeah you got to wait for that because I do believe the pendulum is going to go the other way and all the artists that were canceled for standing up to saying no to the vaccine you know that was a big thing there yeah people that lost jobs I I met um a playwright the other day um that composed her whole um show and she wasn't allowed in it cuz she wasn't vaccinated you know it's like what she wasn't like outside L peeking in you know what an like this is a social


00:34:59 experiment obviously and the we has come out to say that this was right I mean basically so yeah we've we've been tricked and everything that you've been taught as BS and it's time to have an Awakening it close to God and I think we really need to start loving each other a lot more because there's just so much hate so yeah currently Kennedy and Trump have to make America healthy again campaign Maha Maha yeah what exactly does that mean and what's Kennedy's plan once uh Trump becomes president um you


00:35:32 know I think there's a big issue with processed foods and so hilarious that he speaks out on processed foods in Wall Street journals like well what's wrong with what's so wrong about processed foods like there's so many chemicals that are within that are allowed in the United States that are banned from other countries and I think Kennedy coming in that's the number one thing I think he would take the poison out of our food um I think it'll be full informed consent when it comes down down to medications


00:35:59 and vaccines obviously um and I think a main focus is regenerative farming and um you know making things healthy without pesticides because you know about Kennedy and Monsanto um uh he won a lwuit yeah he went a lawsuit his client developed cancer from what was in the masanto you know so he and that was a hard hard trial right that's a really hard thing to kind of prove but he did and he won so I think that having him he he he's just able to to have those conversations and break through walls that no one


00:36:33 really can when it comes down to like pesticides and toxins and things like that um and hopefully I mean this is just my per this is what I want is maybe they can reset doctors and teach them about diet and ozone the therapy and different modalities as opposed to pill for an ill right I think it's it's time to start you know opening that up I think autism as well is going to be a big Focus for him um and vaccine injury obviously but autism um because there's ways to detox the child to have somewhat of a normal


00:37:05 life oh wow yeah I'm not I'm not aware of of any of any of that so sad yeah it is it is so sad I mean the reason I'm suspicious and I really haven't looked into the autism thing very much we have people wanting us to treat uh their kids for autism with stem cells and just don't do it um it just uh just because I just don't I don't know enough about it I don't want to get in you know I don't want to get involved in something that I don't understand and it's really hard to dig in and find what the truth is right


00:37:35 right right but um I think there is something there because they wouldn't be dismissing it so much right it's like oh it's it's it's never when they say it's never uh attributed to the vaccines and I'm like okay I know you're lying there how much are you lying there might be something really big there there is but I don't know to the extent right um it would be huge though yeah if he came in and was in charge of you know the FDA the NIH NIH has about $45 billion a year of funding that go to them um and how


00:38:12 the system works there and look I got friends who are scientists NH uh some of my uh board members great wonderful people um so it's not the people it's the it's the the system and pretty much they all tell you that the the system is broke but people go and work for them and then um you know they leave and they go work for Pharma and a lot of times they'll take the same technology that they were working on uh at NIH with the government funded money and take it to Pharma and then so that's taxpayer money


00:38:45 yeah that's NIH research that then goes and then you know the people that were under them are now in charge of the grants at NIH and so then they get the grants because their boss you know uh is now working for the former boss is now in big Pharma and it's just this system that's it's obvious it's wrong and it doesn't mean the people are bad it's a bad system there's a lot of good people in our AG there really are I mean there's been so much cancer research the science that's come out of the NCI I


00:39:16 mean it has revolutionized cancer therapy with the immunotherapies Steve rosenberg's the head of the NCI I mean that guy is a Pioneer and got a ton of respect for him but the system for NIH is what's is what's jacked and it would be really cool seeing somebody go in there and uh you know shake it up it's time it's time for that new cycle absolutely I am confident that will will happen I really do so yeah it' be revolutionary it will be it's time isn't it yeah what was it Victor Hugo says an idea whose Time Has Come can't be


00:39:48 stopped you know and so um you know it might just be that time and Bobby has head of Health and Human or whatever he ends up doing within that field as long as he's in charge uh you know there there really is there is hope there's hope so um yeah thank God yeah so we were talking a little bit before the show you said you've got a lot closer to God and and Jesus specifically what uh what has that Journey been like and what kind of sparked it I Believe In Christ Consciousness about loving each other and not harming


00:40:24 each other and living in just you know peace and Harmony right uh you know with my illness it it really brought me so close to Jesus because I thought this was the end it made me uh see everything that I didn't want to see in my life that I had just suppressed for so long and you know bad breakups or just you know the way I treated someone or whatever it all came up and Jesus really helped me through that you know reading the Bible and staying very close to God and just praying praying is a big thing for me I


00:40:58 do see so such a difference when I pray um and I I'm so grateful for that um I definitely uh this this experience was a roller coaster for me three years ago after the hospital when they told me I was a crazy person they didn't see anything in my my blood work or Labs that would indicate that I'm burning in my rib cage um they called me like um an addict right and I'm an alcoholic I've done the 12 steps and I said that to them I was like I've done the 12 steps I know this blah blah blah blah and they


00:41:30 belittle me belittled me and I felt like I'm being punished for being an alcoholic and they're not taking away this pain it was it was really just a psychological mess for me and um I ended up actually reaching for vodka after being sober for 3 years um and when I did that it set my whole body on fire and that's when I had my Awakening where uh um the spirit um came to me the Holy Spirit came to me and it wasn't beautiful it wasn't like wow no it showed me it showed me a hand bringing me down and showing me that this is


00:42:05 spirits and this is why and you have other Spirits in your body fighting off this technology and if you do this this is the end and I still can't get that image out of my head so the the Holy Spirit it really transcended my life and that's when I went deep right into the Bible for sure that's awesome yeah I've never ever talked about this yeah it's you know it's it's it's a long time now it feels like but um feels like a whole different lifetime but I what you see is what you get with me anymore I'm


00:42:31 transparent I you know it's I come from a good place it's all about love and you know just helping people in this world yeah you know absolutely yeah uh you know for me the only way I really get through you know all the stress that we deal with at our company is leaning on God right like it's just it's just there's I wouldn't be able to do it I wouldn't be able to do it it's too much it is and so um it's a it's a big Rel when you can do that I think that there's been kind of an Awakening in a way to to Christ because amen I mean


00:43:03 people are talking about it more openly now it's like um you know I even hear uh Rogan um mentioning it on his podcast he's not a a Christian yet but I I pray for Joe all the time yeah uh you know it's just his impact has been so huge to imagine the world without Joe Rogan uh I don't know I mean like his podcast saved me too that interview with Robert Malone like that was like and Robert Malone talks like this and you got to really focus I was like oh it changed my life and you know um we went to one of his shows and I I spoke with


00:43:38 Joe and I was just like thank you so much for what you're doing and I and I and I told him I stressed him I'm like it's like a ticking Time Bomb for people so you know keep it up and and he did and he did that debate thing with um Peter hotz you know and I just I was like dude that's so rad because you can't just go forward with like vaccine injury people are just so scared of it you need to start the conversation because you really do put your neck on the line when you talk about this really do and I I


00:44:07 saw an interview he was like well I didn't ask for this like like you know what I mean but it kind of fell on his La in a sense where it's like well I I was worried about him during covid because you know we like we see Joe and the world sees Joe is Joe Rogan this you know guy with the biggest podcast in the world right but he got to think about the amount of weight on his shoulders really carrying the fight for all of us all of us I mean he just stood up like a [ __ ] man and just you know strong I'm


00:44:38 not I'm not budging and you know Joe will admit when he's wrong he'll change his his belief in something he's very open-minded right and but when he knows that he's he's right he'll stand up for what he believes in but the amount of pressure that that had to be you know during Co it was pressure for all of us right right but you know for him biggest podcast in the world mainstream media constantly attacking him they put that race the the racist video out attacking him and you know it's a lot of pressure


00:45:10 and just seeing the way he came through it and really for a betterment of the world I mean can you imagine I can't imagine the world without Joe Rogan right now and like going to his Comedy Club they take your phone and stuff but comedy was not dead and I'm laughing I'm like oh wait am I all to even laugh at this stuff you know what I mean CU we've been so indoctrinated yeah have respect people like and just the way us a and not feel so ostracized by Society you know what I mean absolutely that's why I think God's


00:45:39 working through them I'm like he's he's got a plan yeah God's working through a lot I me God's protecting Trump too yeah and Kennedy yeah no I mean it's it's it is it's you know when people hear that that aren't you know Christian I get it it sounds a little weird and it's not like we're saying oh they're just doing this giant protect it just you just kind of know you can kind of point it out when you you see this happening if someone doesn't believe in in God like we do something is protecting them you


00:46:08 know they are protected they are standing up for the truth which in any religion is is really what they want is truth and um but uh I I've just watched you know actually Bobby as well and and Joe and a few others um Elon Musk has been standing up to taking bullets for for you know no benefit he's not getting a benefit out of this except he's benefiting society and you know you think all these people really have put themselves above you know the the the personal impact right and you know that's that's courage


00:46:43 that's what we all aspire to be you have been courageous in speaking out because you think about it like yeah it hasn't you know it's I think that you would say that your life uh spiritually and mentally is better now but it hasn't been easy taking the arrows and it hurts a little bit when former friends are calling you names for no reason I'm I was I was the biggest people pleaser I needed to be liked by everyone that's why alcohol was so great for me I was like cool I just dumb myself down and


00:47:11 like you know whatever you know and I don't now I live that people pleaser was ripped right out of me I do not give a [ __ ] anymore like I I have beautiful people around me but I think it hardened me in a way where I just I can't have the conversations at this point of like anymore of me trying to defend where I stand I'm knocking it back down because I am sick I'm getting better thank you Jesus but it's you know I'm not going to falter and I think it pisses a lot of people off so I've lost a lot of friends


00:47:42 yeah and I I just don't have the energy to to maintain relationships you know that don't spiritually and fulfill me you know and you feel happy you don't want to feel drained after you're with someone you know what I mean like oh that's the worst yeah I mean it's uh it's interesting how it's worked out but you know I think overall you know getting through the covid moments getting through these tough times yeah you know it it's a blessing and that it makes us who we are today and we get to be strong for other people and you know


00:48:13 be selfless that's really where happiness comes from in my opinion you know one of my favorite quotes is whenn and doubt Focus out like when's the last time you felt bad feeding the homeless so you know people get depressed and sad when they focus on themselves but when they're outward focused trying to make the world a better place or make somebody feel better those type of things right even if you're standing up for the truth and it hurts cuz people you get attacked that's still being outward focused because you're not


00:48:38 getting any personal benefit out of that that's that's for everybody else and so um you know I think that's that's been one of the blessings of of all this is that we've seen people stand up people have they found who they are we can see right and wrong good versus evil is so obvious now right now especially when you're awake yeah and you know when I was when I came out of a vaccine injury um not publicly when I went to the doctor I finally found someone who was you know working with um patients and


00:49:07 he's amazing um but I was in a room of celebrities right big like influencers massive millions of followers all this stuff and we're in there and everyone's so sick and it's just like and are you going to speak out no I'm not going to speak out you know we start a group chat one girl leaves she's too afraid you know and I'm sitting there and I was like oh my God I'm like like in Hollywood we're indoctrinated to obsess with these PE be obsessed with these people and do what they do and be who they are and while I'm here behind the


00:49:37 curtain seeing that they're hiding the deadliest secret from you do you understand like these people could have changed so many people's lives it could have saved so many lives that and that's a big part of the reason why I wanted to speak out too yeah you know what I mean but that's Hollywood it's happened to a lot of people and there was a football player that uh uh passed out on the field a couple years ago that got swept under the rug we never did find out if it was the vaccine they wouldn't even let them


00:50:06 do really interviews about it yeah we don't want to talk about it right I me so that's why you know that the media is complicit in this and that's their boss um how many people do you actually think know that what they're spouting is BS I I think as a like a former celebrity if I want to call me that you know when it comes down to politics you know I don't think people I didn't understand policy I didn't I like the person on television I liked Hillary Clinton she was a cool woman and I like Obama because he was like a cool man his


00:50:39 wife is cool and they were like rad you know what I mean but you ask me what their policies were or what I couldn't answer that right so I think they're they're just kind of like Get Paid smile look pretty and do what we tell you to do and don't have any education on this and don't have an opinion and you're going to be famous right no thank you right absolutely that's empty that's cooky yeah yeah so uh yeah I don't know I yeah Hollywood is Holly weird what what do you think about uh you know Bobby was running for president um he


00:51:13 just dropped out a few weeks ago yeah were you sad about that or do you like his where he's at with it now um I would love to see him as president I think he's a phenomenal intelligent man uh but I'm really excited about this and um a reporter came to me after he had the press conference and she's like oh is this the end I'm like no this is the beginning this is like bigger than politics this is not about left and right this is about a Unity ticket to really like go against these tabooed subjects and no one has had the strength


00:51:42 or courage to fight against big Pharma like censorship like everything you know um Health you know making Farms healthy again you know this is a massive movement um and it was really exciting we we all went um to the when he endorsed Trump and cool yeah Trump the Trump rallies are it's like a WWE like concert like woo with like sparklers and like all this crazy stuff Cairo um it was amazing but it was 35,000 people just so patriotic love their country and when Bobby came out um it was it gives me goosebumps thinking about we were all


00:52:19 in tears I mean the whole 35,000 people were just like loved him and chanting Bobby Bobby and I was like we're going to save America with this Unity ticket so ABS I I grew to like Trump I was like I had Trump derangement syndrome for many many years I believed in mainstream media you know grabbing by the that that got me you know but that is locker room talk and the truth is you go to Hollywood there are women that will say okay yeah you're rich and famous and you know you could grab me by that not not


00:52:50 me I'll pop you in the throat but I'm just saying I get where he's coming from now so like I said they've told us lies for forever yeah I got to get to know him myself and I actually love him and his dance yeah I have a lot of respect respect for Trump I love all Bobby Bobby's um as a human I think is is amazing Trump to me has shot himself in the foot so many times because he doesn't stick on policy he makes things personal but I'm definitely supporting Trump in this campaign not not K Kamala oh yeah uh yeah Kamala I I actually I


00:53:23 want to make sure I didn't say it wrong I know I said it totally wrong yeah Kamala is correct I think it's not Kamala that's the what has been what is it oh yeah I hope we can unburden what has been and not fall out of coconut trees and not be unburdened by what has been again and the passage of time of course right exactly what do you think about I want to say I'm actually trying to say it right UHA do that what do you think about Kamala um not doing she's on one interview now with A bash and it was a


00:53:57 soft I mean it was 17 minutes yeah it was awful it was awful yeah what did what did you think of the interview I think that um if that doesn't prove to you that there's like puppeteers behind the curtains like come on you know like you could put on a good show you can have all these big celebrities performing but that's the thing about the left of what I've realized it's a theatrical show yes it's like wow yeah I love this so much it's it's a puppet to your show like you're being lied to and to see the left not get up set that you


00:54:28 know there was no primary for Democratic nominee oh yeah they just appointed her anybody could have saw that Biden because I mean we were saying this for a couple years hey he's losing mental acuity it's clear he's not all there and they're saying no I mean uh Joe scarber all he's sharper than he's ever been oh he's a smart this is like in February or March lying out of their mouths having the left attack us for saying no there's something wrong with him we're conspiracy theorists with this and that


00:55:00 and then it happens yeah and by the way that debate I actually didn't think he did that bad compared to you know a lot of the other stuff he had done previously for sure but it was when the media and whoever the puppeteers decided to say nope he's not the person anymore right and that debate got him out but he'd been like that for a couple years yeah shaking the air I mean like that was the first indication all okay right who are these people that you're seeing what are you on you know right um it's


00:55:31 it's so bizarre but it's just they're not in power right you know what I mean it's just it's strange it is that's why you know Trump is such a threat and my view I don't think there's any way they're going to let him win I know I'm I'm not as hopeful that scares me too yeah I never I didn't realize how rigged elections can be but I I have an inlink that you know I don't know I think we've been lied to so I question everything I don't know the answer sure but I'm going to question everything it seems like it it could be


00:56:01 rigged it could be I mean I don't know the silent majority what I saw when Arizona with 35,000 people they didn't have to pay anyone to be there people are sleeping overnight to to be there well you just said they didn't to pay anyone to be there you know the media shows these big crowds with uh Kamala right you're saying it right you're saying right okay good um they show these big crowds I don't even gonna worry about it anymore um they they show these big crowds with her and they people don't realize they're


00:56:29 busing people in they're buing people in yeah I mean and they have a lot of money oh yeah they have soros's money right so it's a it's a financial game at the end of the day it's nothing about politics it's the who has more money well you think about you mentioned George Soros gosh we can go down so many rabbit holes I know but you know it should be common sense for people to ask the question why would George Soros be backing District Attorneys at the local level that don't believe in any type of


00:57:04 uh penalty jail for you know criminals even even like violent criminals are like no slap on the wrist y well like why do you think people don't ask questions about that well because I do believe we're they're manipulating us into being into one world government I think they're making it so bad M that they're going to just have to push it into one world government yeah I do and no one's going to ask the question because if you do ask the questions you're the enemy you're a right lunatic right right so


00:57:36 they got everyone all ready to go all you know the 5G towers and the nanot technology and these vaccines God knows what they're doing yeah that's another rabbit hole that's not really much of a rabbit hole Yeah I I don't know much about the 5G stuff but yeah I mean I do know a lot about the the vaccine I've been working with mRNA for a while and um so uh you know the code is wrapped in a lipid nanop particle right and then your ribosome basically decodes that and then it creates a a protein and um you


00:58:10 know it wasn't ready by any means for the mainstream you know you're talking about metastatic cancer patients right uh that have no other options okay like but when you're talking about 5 billion people you know with what is truly uh an experimental vaccine why is it experimental because it didn't go through a clinical trial we're still doing the trial normally if you do a trial yeah it's I mean Cancer trial takes you 10 to 15 years yeah so it would still be going on and we're still so really yes all the data from


00:58:41 everything is still the trial absolutely but um you know it wasn't it wasn't ready for for mainstream and um you know they just they just fooled everybody I know um it was a complete you know rug pull on on the world right um so you're talking about loving or you know liking Trump now uh what do you think will happen if he does get in office oh I think a lot of people are going to go to jail I think that the wall the border is going to be closed and we're going to finally have safe borders again um I really do


00:59:20 believe he'll fix the economy we're at a really bad place I mean he was just Biden was just like here you go Ukraine let me just give you this money you know and then it's just wild to me where we're at so I think that's going to be really hard but I think he's going to be able to at least create some sense of normaly and like bring back our country to what is what our Founding Father fathers wanted us to have you know because we're so slowly moving into communism and no one's realizing it yeah


00:59:45 it's like 1984 well I think maybe half the country realizes it h I think I think the the the the majority of the people do I truly do I can't imagine they can't see through this you know yeah it's so obvious right now um yeah the 1984 parallels are I mean people should read the book it's it's pretty wild yeah they have the film too it's they have what the film too I watched that with my husband the other night he loved it yeah it's wild though it is um you know the other thing so you were a Democrat and I was always I shouldn't


01:00:18 say always but from probably 2006 libertarian okay and uh very anti-war it's very open to gay rights I mean you know but so I was more left on most issues than uh a lot of Democrats at the time even right and um definitely more than Republicans but it seems like everything shifted so far that you know I haven't really changed my views on much um and the you know the the Democrats are no longer the anti-war party I know they're now the party of War I know it's wild have you asked any of your your friends on the left about


01:00:55 that I don't really talk to you don't talk to me more because I I will not talk about politics I will not talk about vaccines uh I'm very particular as to what we talk about and I I don't really spend a lot of time talking to them because it's it's just it's I don't mean to be like that it's just it's hard to it's it is difficult I always try to find like a a way to build a bridge and yeah you know point out the commonalities that we might have because ultimately we might want the same we do want peace right I don't think that they


01:01:25 just want perpetual War right but you know if you if you can shift a conversation to what is I think they're being told what to like yes so it's like they can't go off from that because then they'll be away from the tribe so it's like I can't have an opinion sh yeah you know like what what happens when you have to send your son or something to war you know what I mean that might change the tune right um I think life experiences always just change the perception of everything so yeah a war so nasty and I me we should fight


01:01:53 adamantly to not war Trump that's what I love about Trump we were kept us out of Wars we were at peace with everyone you know um we got to get back to that place and people do love Trump like like you know Putin and stuff I feel like yeah so respect him yeah respect him I mean you think about when Trump were in office there were no Wars I know uh he defeated Isis um he got the Abraham Accord signed in Israel and that's if it were any other president he would have won a Nobel Peace Prize for that right and


01:02:25 people don't give him credit for it um he he rolled back the um uh he he brought Criminal Justice Reform which the Democrats have been fighting for for a long time Obama wasn't able to get it done right um he did a lot of great things but because he's so polarizing uh the mob on the left just you know Trump derangement you know syndrome it's a real thing what was it like when you finally we're like you know what I'm going to like this guy uh yeah my mom was really happy about she's like all right finally you know


01:02:57 um no it was great CU I was like oh and I started laughing about things and I'm just like okay now this makes sense you know but they they hit everything but yeah no I like I got a Maga hat nice I've been waiting for it but I I'm a full on Kennedy's supporter I wanted Bobby to win but I I walked in that arena with my Kennedy hat on and I was scared of like the dirty looks but I didn't get any yeah it was good no I mean people people that like Trump generally like Kennedy yeah yeah they kind of do yeah of and I think the media


01:03:25 also gives mag people um bad repres representation right sure they're the most loving people but they have to make demonize them because it's not going with their narrative yeah it's not sticking to it but that's cool though yeah I would I would expect you walk in with a a Kennedy hat to a trump rally and they're going to be like hey we love K we like Trump better but we love K you know one of those things well I think they were really happy with the endorsement because that I finally got to a place you know with my trump


01:03:52 friends that we could have conversations and we weren't pitted against each other my friend stinch he like I was on the red carpet with Kennedy stuff and he like crossed it out put Trump and then you know we have funny banter so everyone was very very happy and I think they know it's going to take all of them absolutely I think everyone knows that Tulsi too Tulsi I love Tulsi have you ever met her yes I oh my gosh I met at a perk event I know she's amazing I have to introduce you guys she's so amazing


01:04:18 awesome um she spoke at this perk event and you could just hear a pin drop everyone was just like like zoned into her what a what a a beautiful person and um such a warrior I think she'd make an outstanding president she would be a great first woman's president she she's the one not this other lady like was don't you want a f yeah I want someone who's intelligent like tulsy that is a veteran and understands war and under and she wants to keep us out of War you know what I mean like we have to have


01:04:48 the people that have these life experiences with this not just someone that smiles okay for the camera and like tries to not drink too much for well I I wonder yeah exactly has has a funny laugh um yeah um I wonder if that's why Hillary labeled her like a Russian uh asset because they knew how powerful oh yeah Tuli could be one day she's powerful she is and they know that and they that's that's their thing propaganda shmir campaigns it's like 100% Playbook you know and it's legal they could do that


01:05:23 right absolutely change the perception which is like the most important yeah yeah she like Tulsi is so she's so smart so smart and just even killed and you know before like when she ran as a as a Democrat she was more of a politician to me okay and it's like it seems like since she's got out of politics I'm like oh you know finally um somebody's speaking the truth I say on the other side we agree with so much though it's like somebody speaking the truth you know it it's yeah I met her um she was


01:05:58 so lovely and I was and um she goes I just want to tell you uh I'm so proud of you for coming out about your vaccine injury and I like job job like what I was like well thank you for acknowledging that because people just like you know most people don't want to hear about it and she goes those are the people that are heartless I'm like I love you yeah so I really respected that that's cool pretty cool yeah yeah that's awesome yeah Tulsi gabard she's got to be president one day I me through a storm so I love hearing that


01:06:30 um so you know through all this you've met a lot of cool people that are are likeminded though now how what what's that been like so awesome I mean like moving to Tennessee has been the best decision I we've ever made and I I love everyone here everyone's just so kind-hearted and and want what's best for you don't want anything from you that's so far like it's like aliens in yeah in LA right um but it's beautiful to be able to have sit down to have these conversations and like not feel so alone and not look like I need a tin


01:07:02 foil hat every time I have a conversation you know what I mean like yeah it's I for me life is precious life is short I don't know I mean we we never know what's going to happen with vaccine injury especially with this autoimmune I I pray to God that he lifts it that's my prayer to my my meditations and the last week I've had glimpses of it that being lifted right um I forgot where I was going with the story what you talking about love you know what it's been like since you know you've met a lot of


01:07:29 like-minded people like thank you very much um so it it's just been who I have around me I love and adore I don't have to be drunk to be around them because that was always a thing it's like connection with no I am I am who I am and I need to be accepted on every level or maybe are we're not on the same you know wavelength and that's okay too you know so but I'm so grateful for my new friends I have like five friends that have books coming out and Stu I'm just like what I got smart friends all of a


01:07:58 sudden I just have it that's good what's it been like um for your husband because he's you know he's I guess he's seen a shift he's probably had a shift himself like what's that been like he he's he's saved my life he's just unbelievable um so supportive in every way um he knew it was a vaccine injury U our trainer at the time his friend in Boston was vaccine injured and showed him a video of like thousands of women saying dear fizer dear fer is showing all these simp right um so Mikey my husband knew it was


01:08:29 a vaccine injury so he's been a big advocate for me he's watched it you know I mean it's so hard for him to see me suffer especially in the hospital cuz they weren't caring for me they weren't taking care of me and I look at him and I'm like we're at War like we were being gaslit like I feel like I'm at the brink of death and they they think I'm crazy you know so I have a lot of respect for him and like through thickness and health I mean like talk about vows you know like he's he's stay true to me and


01:08:57 I'm lucky I lucked out awes I don't know how it happened but thank you Jesus yeah there you go absolutely that's that's beautiful yeah um whose idea was it to move to Nashville it was he wanted to move I was kind of um on the fences I loved LA and I love the weather but I was out in the front porch one day and um all of a sudden something hit me in my gut it's like you guys got to move don't think just go so I go go inside and I'm like honey we got to go we got to move to Tennessee he's like okay 6


01:09:24 months later here mhm okay oh that's cool he's what yeah uh so yeah no we were we were drawn to here we just we just want to live peacefully um with you know in Christ Consciousness with people that love God and um just yeah love your neighbor no judgment no just live in peace yeah absolutely life is too short you never know you never know you never know it's that's very true because like you know I've dealt with cancer patients or work with cancer patient not dealt with work with patients for 9 years and


01:09:59 um you know it puts so many things in perspective especially when people are younger you know in their 30s or 40s or 20s even yeah um you know we're not promised tomorrow so we better live the best for for today right and um you know instances like we've all just been through with co uh it's an opportunity you know to really ground yourself focus on doing what's right cuz you know as society's like flying like as we're going hard in our work and we're focused on other things right uh you know sometimes you lose what's important but


01:10:34 it takes something like covid or something like seeing a cancer patient or maybe a certain diagnosis yourself like well like you're going through yeah to make you sit down say wait a second maybe all this stuff wasn't that important and you know I'm going to start living for different reasons yeah you find out what's most important and never take uh granted your health ever I just remember think I miss ballet so much I just remember when I was lazy I'm I'm not going to go to class today and I just like oh why didn't you go to class


01:11:05 that day you know but I don't I I I am going to get better I know I am good yeah I mean you have time just say focus on your health and uh you know you're on the right path and you have access because of you speaking out now anybody who has something new you know is going to I mean if if I find something out for vaccine injured people I would text you right away hey that's been a great thing about this but then there's also people I have the magic thing magic thing I'm just like it's been three years of that where uh


01:11:37 the modalities have just like backfired from my condition you know yes so I think over time it's helped the most it's just the time yeah the time that's what the neurologist said at Kaiser he's like oh it keps on saying three months and every time I'm like I'm still feeling like I'm going to die and so he's like 3 years so it's been 3 years last week or wow yeah August 28th do you have a neurologist here in Nashville no I don't I don't do mainstream I won't do it I've got somebody and you know just


01:12:05 I'll just show you who they are uh he's actually in La okay but um he's uh he's a neurologist and neuro oncologist okay I'm very open-minded very open that that's what I'm talking about I'm okay with that yeah I had a neurologist at UCLA tell me that I was crazy and that it was impossible to have a adverse reaction it would you just have something around the arm like a Little Tenderness come on it's impossible come on he was like 4 feet tall I think it was an elf it's fine yeah this neurologist and I have had debates about


01:12:35 Co yeah and um you know we're still good friends so um you know he he is very Pro vaccine uh but that's okay I mean I don't mind when people are it's like okay well you have your your view but he wouldn't he would also say well yes there's a lot of people that can get injured from it but so he's not in denial of that part he's like net good he thinks is which i' much rather have somebody think like that than to say this other side isn't happening if that makes sense totally I mean yeah I just if the


01:13:05 vaccine had stopped transmission and you know all of that then I would be like oh we're on the front lines and having an injury would be like oh we stopped we ended a pandemic so I'm like a front line of this right but it's not it's not it's not it's it was it's a failed techn that that particular technology with the spike protein mhm that I you know and I I remember learning about mRNA because they were going to cure HIV that way I remember this you know I did a lot of work with City of Hope so I remember


01:13:32 being in the in the lab and saying oh they're going to cure AIDS soon I'm like this is incredible you know so I was never against mRNA but now what I'm going through I'm not a fan I don't blame you I don't blame you so it's uh yeah it is what it is but I'm not going to live in the resentment anymore sure I'm going to give it to God let go let God and just enjoy every day like to my last and love my son and never go back to Holly weird again that's good how old is your uh son now he's three three how


01:14:06 what's that been like the last three years love of my life he's him and my son are him and my son him and my husband my other son um him and my husband have just been like God sent me they're just the most beautiful souls and just watching um MJ just grow up and when I held him I realized this was my purpose I I for so long thought it was my career a boyfriend or whatever it is like this you know you're finding that that what you're chasing for your whole life and when I held MJ for the first time I was like and this is it folks you


01:14:39 know and he changed my life completely vaccine injury deepened it which I'm grateful for sure but um yeah I I love being a mommy so much I think we're going to stay at one baby and just get farm animals and stuff nice cuz we have a lot of acreage yeah how how uh how many acres you got yeah 22 acres oh nice yeah we are away from people so what's that like going from Hollywood or La uh to a farm in Franklin oh I love it so much um we were like slowly creeping out of the city cuz um when the riots


01:15:11 happened that was a really scary time in LA so we moved to like Malibu monteno area there's some weirdos over there so we were just like ah yeah so we fled from there but we were already kind of adapting to the farm life so now I love it so much I don't want to live in the city and like coming to the city like this was fun yeah but um I like to just be home we have a pond or sit by the pond play with my son and I have three dogs oh nice six chickens what type of dogs you got I have a miniature pincher


01:15:41 uh a greyhound Chihuahua and a Pomeranian she's 4 PBS and she rules my life okay we call her the creeper cuz she comes out of nowhere she's just like if she was here she'd be like on your head yeah we have a uh what technically Laura's LOB shitsu oh um yeah and he's he's at a vet right now he's got a little little B lesion that they're getting removed you should be okay that was the word I was looking for leion on my spine I don't know to bring it up right now but leion on your I I I developed a lesion on my spine when all


01:16:09 this went down on my like that's right fth vertebrae yeah what was it how big was it um it was like a dime size but what happened was it was like they were trying to get the spasm out of my rib so he the chiropractor which I would never don't ever do this if you're a chiropractor but he bent my neck and then He adjusted me that way so I think that's what caused the lesion oh I see could not think of that word I think I've just like blocked it out of my mind cuz any type of illness I'm just like no


01:16:35 I'm too young yeah well and I'm not that young but come on yeah exactly no I mean this shouldn't have happened but um it could have been you know the immune system attacking that area it could have been right I whatever it is it's not there anymore so that's good thank God excellent that's excellent um what are your goals now that you're in in Franklin like what's the what's your VIs for the next 10 years um you know I've really just dedicating my life to to to be of service uh the philanthropic side


01:17:03 is is something that is very important to me there's a community of people that are suffering in silence so um I'm really grateful that I was able to be a surrogate for Bobby's campaign to he's like go ahead and talk about it I was like cool I want to go talk about it and I've actually met even more vaccine injured people so for me it's like you know we got to change legislation we got to we got to really like look into uh repealing 1986 liability act I mean there's a lot of work that needs to be


01:17:30 done and I do believe the unity ticket especially with Bobby there ahead of Health you know I think he's going to transcend everything for us and we'll be able to look like him when we're in our 70s right he's in great shape like if you see the comparison to the health director come on oh jeez it's just I I feel like we're just like the whole world is laughing at us yes come on yeah so I think I yeah for me like I don't know I've been asked to sing and stuff it's but it's not about that anymore for


01:17:59 me it's like I want to be a mother I want to life is sacred I just want to live my life and hopefully dance again and maybe maybe do something entertainment wise but I'm more like behind the scenes now yeah well you know so we didn't talk too much about your career right I do want to ask some questions yeah what was that like you know how did you get to to LA and start everything so um I've been a dancer since I was three years old I went to uh magnet programs and then I went to New World School of the Arts it was an art


01:18:31 school for dance and where was this in Miami Florida okay that's right you're yeah got I'm from Miami yeah and um yeah 14 I started doing commercials and music videos did a music video for Will Smith um well to Miami my mom had to be on set because I wasn't legal yet so my mom was so happy when I turned 18 um but before I left Miami I was on a soap opera called Ocean Avenue I I hope you never see it I'm just Kidd I'll send you some clips oh God it's so bad I played a Gothic pill Popp and teenager like crazy


01:19:02 and then my friend was new to school and she ended up being a press and then I found her dead oh no and then I like turned into a singer you know like natural yeah um so so yeah I uh I love doing that so much um I saved a lot of money so then I moved to LA to act terrible actress so that wasn't working out for me so then 3 months later I I uh started dancing again I got a dance agent my first job was with Smoky the Bear Public Service Announcement um and Robin Anson was a choreographer and uh she was the choreographer of the


01:19:35 Pussycat Dolls so we fell in love on set and she said cut your bangs I want to be a part of this group called The Pussycat Dolls so I went a week later and it was like an audition but I had already gotten a role so it was being you put next to people and stuff it was wild it was a wild ride but from then on it was about a year of an audition cuz it started from girls to 20 girls to 10 girls to six and that's who you know is the Pussycat Dolls so okay so the The Pussycat Dolls it started how did that


01:20:04 even start not necessarily with you and then like what's the background of the the group I think it was 92 or 94 I might be misquoting this but uh Robin Anon was um uh roommates with Christina Applegate and they were in their garage creating this show called the [ __ ] cat dolls um Christina I guess was friends with Johnny Depp who owned Viper Room and she goes I have this really cool concept so they got their girlfriends together and they started doing this show so it became this very underground


01:20:29 cool viy show that all the celebrities would go to so then it got attention of all these celebrities so like Gwen Stefani was a guest Christina yera Pamela Anderson Scarlet Johansson so um it just got a really cool buzz in Hollywood so yeah um I was lucky enough to be a part of it uh when I came in in 2003 a newbie from Miami naive like didn't know what I was getting myself into you know know um yeah it was a wild wild ride yeah and so the Pussycat Dolls were one of the biggest acts in in the world for for a while what was you know


01:21:06 what was it like when you first kind of hit big with with the group it was um it was in London and it was overnight we did a show there and the next day we had fans at our hotel room like pushing the van and stuff like we knew it was crazy um and then it was on a global sale scale for me um I was I don't know it was a little hard for me because people were starting to treat me differently even family was acting a little weird with me and it just felt like it just it felt surreal it felt like a dream and


01:21:38 then the opportunity to just travel the world and but they worked us to death I mean it was like 4:00 a.m. call radio another radio show that night go to another city and that was like a couple years of that so we really built that brand it was magnificent and um live live shows are the best type of shows that's the type the energy exchange and that wow you get the most incredible high from that yeah mhm yeah I remember I guess 2000 I don't know around 2004 I went to a show at uh whatever the club


01:22:09 was in Caesar's Palace oh yeah yeah yeah the PCD Lounge yeah I was on one of the um craft tables craft table craft tabl is that really word yeah or like the poker tables yeah is it craps how do you say it well it could be craps or It crap yeah could be I was on a crap table that's so that's kind of yeah I remember that back in the day it took my my girlfriend of the time AJ and um you know we went out there but you you mentioned that um you know people started treating you different and uh even some family and


01:22:41 you had to go had to go into detail about who or anything but I share that experience when I started uh becoming more successful and it's really weird for me but I'd like you to say what was that like and how did you kind of get through it I it was it was kind of a hard pill to swallow cuz it just felt like my life had changed already so I wanted normaly when I would see certain people you know what I mean so I just kind of stayed true to who I was as much as I could but unfortunately what happens is what you


01:23:15 need you are humble I don't think I don't see you going crazy for me like I thought I was humble but I wasn't humble I mean I was building those narcissistic traits and kind of like there's a little bit avoid certain family members too you know what I mean um so I don't know it's it's a very it's a tricky situation cuz it is a icky feeling because you just want to go home and have whatever peanut butter jelly sandwich you don't want to you know have the neighbors over yeah you know what I mean exactly and I think


01:23:41 they were just really proud but for me I was like I just don't want to see anyone and I just want to like I just want to wear my hair down no makeup and not be judge cuz you are under observation when you're a celebrity you know like everything you're looks all of it and I don't wear makeup all the time I wear a baseball cap and especially now yeah I look like a crazy person now I would say look like crazy person a normal person noral a normal person yeah he have hair extensions and all yeah no that sounds


01:24:09 exhausting yeah that's one of the hardest things about reaching certain success is that people treating you different yeah and I was talking to my I won't mention who it is but a friend that's done very well yeah and he's like yeah he's like uh thank say we're different it's like they're just treating us different yeah it's like we haveen I haven't changed you've changed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh yeah cuz that's that's the weirdest part because you want to be nice to everybody you do and but you don't want to get taken


01:24:36 advantage of you got to be really careful especially I know I see a lot of my friends that like are famous now and it's like they didn't know this was going to happen but you have to also realize who's around you is very important you got to be super super Vigilant as to who you have around you now you really keep your circle small got yeah absolutely that's that's good advice keep the circle small yeah don't have yes people around you very very true very very true they'll screw you up bad oh yeah I think this is a good idea


01:25:07 you're actually you're asking like legitimate advice and they're like yeah doing everything think like what in the world why did you tell me to do that haven't had that happen um you went solo too afterwards what was that like I did it was amazing I was signed to Hollywood Records um I had a song called show me that went number one on the Hollywood dance charts a billboard dance charts so yeah it was great I toured um the United States and I uh I did a ton of Prides and stuff like I said you know


01:25:36 um gay rights was a big part of my platform yeah it was awesome I loved it I loved house music um it never worked out for me like music-wise um I didn't number one I wasn't going to sell my soul I've been I was offered many many times like hey why don't you come to my office and like you know I I saw that at a very young age like ew I don't want to do that um so you know I don't know if music was necessarily meant for me but I loved it so so much I still do I still kind of want to do it sure um but yeah


01:26:07 know it was great to have success on my own it wasn't mainstream it didn't go make the radio but it's there's a lot of politics and things involved for oh yeah you know what I mean there is a there is a lot of politics yeah it's um there's politics in everything everything you know it's it is a lot of who you know you still have to work really hard you know part of building a network and like for instance Rogan introduced us right but but Rogan wouldn't have introduced us if we were bad people right if that makes sense


01:26:41 100% so it's like you gota you gotta be a good person and and work with those relationships but um it doesn't doesn't happen if you're not a not a good person on a certain level 100% um so anything else you want to want to cover no just thank you so much for this conversation this is f yeah I appreciate you coming in it's finally it's good to finally meet you in person I feel like I know you already yeah we've talked a bunch and you know seen you go through what you've gone through and uh appreciated watching your courage CU you


01:27:19 it's not easy to speak out it's not easy to stand up for for what's right when so many people especially in your former field are attacking you and putting you down and calling you crazy and calling you names that you aren't and um it takes courage and we need more people like you uh to have that courage to really make make the difference right now that we need in the world so we need it so yeah if you're vaccine injured out there and you have a platform you know we'd love to hear from you absolutely


01:27:46 you know all right well Jessica thank you so much we'll talk again soon sounds good thanks