I'm not going to jail I took my phone dropped it in water I bought myself a ticket from JFK to Amsterdam so I was now a fugitive On The Run 20 years old parents are split up struggling I need to make some money man we were getting kilos of coke and swallowing a kilo flying back home we were hanging out with these chicks for a couple months ended up one of them set us up boom smashed in the front smashed in the back DEA oh wow jumped on us freaking pistol to my temple I was in maximum security in rer Island oh man he pulls this nasty looking shank out bro and he's doing this and I'm like dude no bro please man boom she just caught him right on the chin dude I went in that water it looked clear when I walked out it looked black to me and I felt God say that was your addiction and that was your sin dead and a year later I have met my beautiful wife married her we bought a house together I broke into the UFC I broke into the top 10 and I was a taxpaying citizen for the first time in my life Ian hinish welcome to the podcast yeah thanks that I appreciate it um you know it's cool to run into you in Miami at the fights and uh yeah excited to talk about my testimony about my experience at sell your performances to we'll talk about crypto and conspiracies whatever you want all the things all the things which which conspiracies should we talk about oh gosh you mean the ones that haven't came true yet or the ones that already have came true let's do one of each all right right um well the ones that have came true let me think of that why don't you start I'll think of one yeah ones that have come true let's see what what oh here we go here we go the the vaccine oh yeah heart problems autism y there's that on on the vaccine front there's the Wuhan Lab at first it came from like a bat and a monkey mating or something like that now was like you know made in the lab made in the lab y cloth masks work and of course now that's that's obviously when you sit down at the restaurant the virus is De or is is activated but when you stand up it deactivates yeah or sorry the other way around but it was just crazy right you're in a restaurant you're eating you got to put the mask on to go to the bathroom yeah you got to put the mask on go to the bathroom it makes sense and if you don't do it you're a bad person because you just want to kill people you want to you want to kill your grandma so um yeah man I mean we're in we're in some crazy times for sure and you know it's an election year the good thing is it's in a bull market so that's right you think we're in a bull already yeah okay yeah I a lot of people will judge it differently but the way I look at it is you know once we hit that 155 range area um we bottom out in 2020 was it 20202 22 Yeah 2022 um I would say from that point on is kind of starting of a bull market and especially when you're in the meme coin space you're getting so many little many altcoin seasons so it's just like you're making money but a lot of people will say you know the 200 we moving average has to cross the 300 week and and there's different indicators but for me price go up bull market yeah yeah yeah I mean I haven't gotten to the memes and and we'll get into some of that but you I've been primarily Bitcoin ethereum I mean know I'm I'm into I think I've got some pulse was it pulse X pulse chain yeah uh but what's uh pulse X pulse X is one of their coins yeah is that the one where you had to burn some to get in didn't you have to like put money and burn it um well they did a pulse chain sacrifice and then they did the pulse X sacrifice later and PSE X most people miss the pulse chain pulse X is the deck which is the swap for it that's what I did yeah so you're you're good I I would swap it for pulse chain um you're pretty you're up because you got a Bonus but not by much okay so that the interesting thing about pulse chain is that usually pumps when everything is kind of over like after Bitcoin and ethereum top out and start to go down then you're going to see a big pump from po chain because Richard Hart likes to all the attention to be on his coins he's kind of a glory type guy so that's that's kind of what we're expecting and he plays the market he has an OA wallet which is original origin wallet basically the sacrifice for everyone set the money he put a he put millions of dollars in ethereum so I think he's going to ride that up mhm he's going to use it to buy his coin that boy boy yeah Richard Hart you know uh some different thoughts about him when one first I do think he's a genius I mean the guy is really really smart smart and um you know so people can talk bad about him and for those that don't know he started hex yeah um and it became a you know multi-billion dollar uh coin market cap yep 10,000x yeah exactly and um uh really really great ideas but then he took some heat right he uh you know he was he was really out there with his marketing you know a little uh you know a big show off and then he took some heat from the federal government so yeah what's going on with with Richard Hart right now yes so Richard Hart um he's the Donald Trump of crypto so that's how I like to look at it you know a lot of people will look up to him so crazy I you know I obviously I'm not going to worship a man and and I I think he's a smart and I think his products are amazing because it is a fully decentralized layer one blockchain the most decentralized blockchain in all of crypto and I 100% believe that and which is freedom it's freedom of speech it's uh no one can shut it down like the websites like I don't I'm not too technical with it but like it's not on the HTT hhtt uh P website it's on a different um browser that can't be stopped in any way or form so don't quote me on that but either way it's fully decentralized he came under heat from the SEC with hex calling it a security um he's hired like the most legit team and if you actually look at the statistics 98% of all lawsuits from the SEC end in a settlement 98% so it's kind of a thing where you got to pay to play and um he's kind of an everyone's face and he rubs it in that he's a he's a you know he's a billionaire Bitcoin billionaire um and and but he's a smart guy and I think his products are good I think he'll do a lot of x's and I have a big uh I have a big of part part of my portfolio in pulse chain and a little bit in HEX and Richard Hart products yeah yeah it's it's basically ethereum it's a fork of ethereum Cheaper fees it's faster you get a copy of all your ERC 20s if you held that on to centralized exch or wallet and um it's it's a better version of ethereum yeah no he's done done a a a great job and you know all the promo aside if you listen to what he said says he's a really smart guy yes and uh I I like him actually I like him I I've I've learned a lot from from watching his videos popping on a podcast when when uh he's or when I was in the car I don't know if he does them anymore but this is you know back the last uh bull run my buddy uh Matt he put like 5,000 in and got over a million return crush it with hex dude so that's what's so cool man you see these stories and like you know I mean you're obviously a very successful entrepreneur you know putting your money in Bitcoin and ethereum is such a good wealth preserver you talked about we talked about at the fights you're you're putting money in there and you're putting money in your bank and the money you're putting in crypto even on the dips and in the bare Market you're seeing an exponential uh increase over time and it just shows it's actually beating inflation doing that way and it's a wealth preserver and it's honestly I'm sure you have it on a cold wallet um a ledger and it's you know you're basically being your own bank and then on the other side like someone like me trying to come up in the game I'm looking for the next Shu I'm looking for the next Dogecoin cuz I'm trying to put in I'm not trying to bet the farm to buy the farm I'm putting in a couple thousand bucks CU even my partner he's a shuu millionaire from $1,000 oh nice you know and I'm talking you know eight figures he cashed out so you know for for someone like me I'm looking to find the next coin before it's on centralizes changes buying um the number one block or the number one mem coin on Stacks which is the new Layer Two of Bitcoin now they have Bitcoin as meme coins mhm um all these different altcoins so I'm looking for that I have a lot of money in crypto and you know after the bull market I'll take my profit and then I'll be buying ethereum and Bitcoin on the lows and that'll be my wealth preserver yeah yeah yeah that's uh that's what I did the last oh I don't know two years was just dollar cost average plus we took uh payment in Bitcoin and ethereum which is about 3% of our Revenue 3 to 5% and so we did pretty good on that and I think our average the last two years is about 24,000 uh a Bitcoin so um and uh it's awesome I mean I I wish that coinbase had a credit card that you could just use directly out of your Bitcoin or a check card yep because I would just keep all my cash uh you know everything on Cold Storage but you know my monthly payments and stuff MH on on my coin base because I mean I trust that much more than I trust the dollar yeah absolutely and and that's that's kind of a crazy thing a lot of people don't know and we'll go we'll go even further back in my testimony later in my story but um you know when I was injured um I got a bad concussion after my fight with um Alo medov that guy he's ranked like number five now and when I fought him I got uh SW he did a switch knee when I was throwing an overhand caught me right in the eye um rocked me good gave me like nine stitches um but I had no symptoms after that I felt fine there's something about the adrenaline when you fight that protects your brain protects your body and I felt fine but I went back to training 3 weeks after that and I was sparring like nine rounds like I shouldn't have been sparring so much it was I should have been like hey man first week first week back you know and I threw a lazy head or I threw a lazy body kick and it just kind of got blocked and spun back and um one of my teammates threw a head kick at the same time boom caught me sat me down went home light sensitivity anxiety nauseous you know every concussion symptom in the book and I was like and it's just one of those things where you have to just go home lay down turn the lights off and just sit there and just like this sucks I got to get through this um about 3 weeks in I was like you know usually start to feel better after 3 weeks 2 3 weeks and you know I felt a little bit better but I was pushing it going back to the gym I'm just going to roll just going to drill and it's something about when you have an injury and you go to the gym it just gets hit when you try to protect it I don't know why cuz you're focused on it or something I'm drilling with my buddy and someone lands into me I'm not even going live but someone going live Falls in me cracks my head oh man and so just stupid stuff like this happened for a couple months and I was like and I was like dude this is just getting worse and worse and I was like and I was like you got to go to the gym you have a fight coming up you need to pay your bills like all these thoughts are going in my head and when I wouldn't train it was that voice inside of me like oh you're you're being a [ __ ] bro like come on get back in there you know just that that voice that we have and I had the I had I booked a fight with Sam alvie you know nothing to take away from Sam's career but I was like you know this is a good fight for me this is a fight where I get a highlight real back in the winning column and back on the trail I was you know I was ranked number nine in the world um I probably dropped down to top 15 at that time and and then um I H I just kept having these symptoms man and finally I had to say to a point I said I am not going to the gym like that was a big decision because tough cuz I was going to the gym and I was sit in the car with anxiety my body was so afraid to get hit in the head again yeah I would sit there for like 30 minutes and then leave and I started like almost like the the the with my words sometimes I'll be driving I'll be like where am I like I have no idea what state I'm in or nothing and like that stuff's scary anxiety would spike through the roof and I was like man I have a serious problem I have to stop going to the gym I have to get well who cares about fighting at this point Y and then um you know I said what can I do and I heard about you guys and I reached out um Eric Anders had went down and got something done with his neck and I knew you guys did it for concussions in the brain stem so I called I got my whole di uh you know I went through the whole deal with the doctor told him all my symptoms came back got a quote and you know it was it was more money than I could afford I could afford at the time but it would it would really make me strapped after that so I was like I don't even know if this will for for sure work cuz I was just you know at the time I was like can I really afford this and that's when Marshall Rogan knew some meme coin of Joe Rogan's dog came out started paying all these Fighters and I'm looking on Twitter I'm like wow I jump jumped on a Twitter space they they invited me up cuz I was a UFC fighter and they're like hey man what's going on in your career and I just spilled the beans man I just told him everything I was like this is what happened and I had this fight with Sam Alvi and I had to pull out and I and I trained for this camp and you know I spent $10,000 and now we only get paid when we fight and just told them the whole deal about stem cells they hit me up after they said hey and jump on a telegram call they're like we're going to pay for your stem cells that's awesome and I was like yeah sure man you know I didn't believe it sure here's my wallet boom I looked at my phone I was getting oil change at Toyota I never forget I just hit my knees I was like oh my God yeah I called Scott and Scott called you and he said yeah we take payment in ethereum yeah click of a button boom paid for I'm going to Tiana to get stem cells and I was like this crypto stuff is legit yes so that was kind of the thing that got me hooked into crypto so you were a big part of my journey into crypto whether and you didn't know it but um I just saw that and I was part of AMC gme and I saw how quick people were making money I made like 50 Grand I thought that was insane um but I realized stocks don't do what crypto does so I fully turned from that point on and I was literally in your facility and Cha soning got on a Twitter space and talked about this coin bro and he was like Money Follows attention and this coin's got all the attention the coin did a 10x on the space chill gave the best shill you ever heard and I was mind blown man and um I had a full partnership with this coin and you know it wasn't a scam thank God and um it helped a lot of Fighters man it was cool really cool times yeah what's been your experience uh you know kind of ever since since you've been um you know kind of in the crypto space uh like what's your approach to getting in on specific coins um so now what I do is you know you try to find there's so many everyone's multi-chain now you know you got people on salon there's a full bull market going on in salana um avac people are making tons of money over there ethereum is kind of more dead than it's ever been I I believe in crypto everyone has their turn M you know you want to try to catch a few turns if you're lucky but you have to hope that you're going to have your turning crypto so what I do is I try to find up and coming blockchains like Stacks is a big one just because of the whole Bitcoin narrative with the ETFs it's a layer two on bitcoin or it's a layer two on bitcoin but it's crazy it takes like 30 to minutes to an hour to do one transaction so they're doing an upgrade coming up in a couple weeks so if that upgrade goes well could be very bullish I'm on a coin there called Welsh it's the top you were trying to get that generational Welsh uh it's a corgi it's a little dog um so I'm just trying to find top meme coins on different blockchains H's chain is Teddy Bear Richard Hart streams in kind of a room like this and he's got a Louis Vuitton teddy bear up there MH so that's that's kind of the meme of that um yeah you know you got Pepe for ethereum you got dog with hat for salana so you try to find these coins that people aren't talking about yet on blockchains that are going to be successful find the number one meme coin and invest in a few of them that you believe and like I said man this is literally putting 500 to a couple thousand bucks in this yeah it's a lottery ticket to be at the end of the day but man if you if you don't hit on nine of them but you hit on 10 right it's paying for that you're you're hitting big well there there's a good chance too that's like if you know what the top meme coin's coming out it makes sense that you know you're going to hit a lick so you have you know for those who don't know a lot about crypto uh you know salana would be uh an operating system basically ethereum is an operating system y um and you know those are the memes that you were talking about specifically what was the one on Solano uh dog with hat dog with hat that's hilarious um yeah so that's the mean it has a chance of ripping and it probably will actually probably uh Ian has it already started billion Mark God it did a and and this is one month it did this um you also have Myro which is the developer of salon's dog okay Myro so that was the first one that really I think that's like two or three billion doll market cap Pepe is at like $4 billion market cap and these things have already ripped you know pretty much yeah right I mean that's what people hit me up now oh should I buy them like like non coiners and I'm like dude you are exit liquidity do not buy that coin because it's true man I mean something does you don't have much people are in profit like even if you got in at at 5 10 mil market cap there's people that got in under 1 mil market cap and now it's at billions of market cap and they have multi they have millions of and they're just scaling Out Cashing Out Cashing Out so exactly you're trying to find that type of coin you got to have a narrative um which is hey it's the developer's dog or it's dog it's cat season you're trying to follow the meta you got to have good developers you got to grow a strong Community with good branding and then you got to have a bunch of marketers on it um pushing it that's awesome so well yeah I'm gonna I'm G to try to get on some memes yeah we're going to get you in some good ones this one that full Market yeah that'll be good I love my Bitcoin and ethereum and I've got some salana and ICP as well but um you know in the past the last bull I was doing a lot of different things and um you know but without you know without the best strategy now that I've spent 2 years just studying and you know the plan with ethereum and Bitcoin uh dollar cost averaging has worked very very well now it's like now you can understand the cycle once you've been through you're like oh this is what's going to happen and you know if you really study it so um I'm looking forward to it man yeah it's going to be fun man yeah it's a fouryear cycle everyone will say it's over when it's the Market it's just it's just so cyclical and you realize that's kind of with politics and you realize the world is and if you it's honestly a game and if you know how to play it you will win and make a lot of money and you know right now they have all these pre-sales going on like this coin $6 million in pre-sales it went to 1.8 billion in one day mhm so it just it's just crazy um but then there's also pre-sales they're raising 5 million and they just scammed there's so many scams man this is probably it's becoming a tough Market because regulation is coming and I believe this is the last Wild West Bull Run that we got going so I'm trying to capitalize and and move on with my life I'm going to be more in the background your style dollar cost averaging and Bitcoin and ethereum and and and moving on because it is stressful being in this space and it's just you get scammed all the time and it's just part of the game and then people think it's you and so it it's it's coming to an end but we're going to capitalize on good man just let it rip just go around and then you can you can chill with the Bitcoin and ethereum in the future just chill just sit back like you're doing and just dollar cost average I just watch your bank account I love it I love that man I don't ever watch it until it's going up and then I'll get a text from my mom because my mom knows she's like oh my gosh you know it's doing this and I look I'm like you know yes uh so it's been a lot of fun but when it's not I don't even worry about it like it's not to me it's you know I I don't look at that count as in oh I've got to you know it's it's just like this extra longterm big project but it's you know I don't worry day to day month to month even no year to year I wasn't worried about it last year I was actually wanting it to go down more I thought it was going to hit like 11,000 so I was like oh man at 12,000 I'm going to you know put a a big purchase in and yeah never got that low so yeah I know I know you celebrate when it goes down actually are you um yeah I mean when it goes down there's always opportunity yeah it's just so psychological everyone cries and the markets will play with your emotions you have to go opposite you buy the fear and you sell the greed y exactly and most people can't do that they can't separate their emotions from it yeah well um hopefully like this this little bull we're GNA we're going to hit some rips with it because it's it's a lot of fun to watch too once you get it and uh I don't get emotional on it I just I just enjoy it I love like looking at it understanding what it's going to you know what it's going to do for society in the future what the blockchain is going to do for society what Bitcoin I look at Bitcoin as Freedom yeah uh you know with all the stuff that's going on with the banks and politics you know Bitcoin is almost my my way out y of uh if you know sh can hit the fan but I got my Bitcoin and I'm good yeah you know that's kind how I look at it so yeah exactly man it is it is a is a way to I mean it sucks now because now institutions are trying to buy like 10 15 20% of all Supply and they will manipulate it they will control control it but at the end of the day you got your Bitcoin and it's going to be really hard to own one Bitcoin I know and I think like they say like 1% of the entire world or like less than 1% of the entire world owns one Bitcoin so it's it's going to be very exclusive to get in that club well you think about all the all the millionaires on the planet right now and there's there's not enough Bitcoin for every millionaire to have one no you know I mean that's just uh one way to look at it the Sovereign wealth funds haven't uh invested yet when they do you're going to see it go crazy I would be more surprised in 10 years if Bitcoin was at a 100,000 than if it were at a million I would expect it to be at a million uh in 10 years so I mean that's uh yes I'm bullish but you know if you understand the markets and you see how they've operated in the past um it does just make it Mak sense why that's more likely than even 100,000 yeah yeah absolutely I mean we could I my my predictions for this bull market I think we're going to hit anywhere from 120 to 150 nice conservatively um but once it hits around the 100 I'll be starting to take profits on some things just because yeah I mean it you never know another scenario that could play out is it just be a extremely fast bull market not go into 2025 Skyrocket up and then dump down and then they blame the Bitcoin Miners and Usher in all this regulation because Mom and and dads got wrecked mortgaging their house and buying it yeah they're doing commercials and stuff on it so you got to watch out because whatever the herd thinks it's usually going to be something different so just have a game plan if you're in crypto um if it's a short Bitcoin cycle have a bearish plan where you win and have a bullish plan where if it goes to 500k or a million you still have enough where you're like I won you still got some yes yeah probably let you know probably gosh 25% over 250,000 a Bitcoin ride do you know that's about where where my head is but uh we'll start doing kind of dollar cost averaging out yeah as it's going up yep and and soon you and I mean you'll be able to buy real estate with your Bitcoin and stuff I think that's a very good leverage absolutely you buy real estate but you can also if you need a cash out you know uh you know you can you can pull your uh liquidity out oh yeah so uh he clicks of a button I know it's super super easy right your bank yeah a lot of people don't you know they don't realize how it is going to you know change the future how Bitcoin is digital gold y I mean the gold market has about A1 trillion doll or so market cap yeah um you know bitcoin's at 1.3 trillion is right now um so I mean that's it's still at 11x away from gold flipping gold and uh I think we have a chance of doing it this cycle it like I'm bullish man I'm like 6 650k of Bitcoin uh would would would be the price yeah yeah that would be insane it wouldn't shock me I I would be more surprised if it were at 100,000 uh in 18 months than 650,000 but yeah yeah I'm kind of somewhere in the middle but you have a plan Bitcoin to the Moon baby have a plan Bitcoin in the moon all crypto send it all all meme coin cuz there will be an altcoin season when you look at the bit Bitcoin chart when that thing goes down that means money is Flowing from Bitcoin into altcoins and there will be about a TW Monon cycle where you could throw a dart at anything and get a 10x yeah there will be things are going to pop off so it's going to be fun we should start our own meme coin what do we do I I wouldn't start one personally just because I'm a marketer and um there's a lot of baggage that comes with that I see yeah I'm just talking out of my ass right now but yeah but if you know a guy I could I don't actually I'm like we should do a freaking meme coin a a BTC 2m yeah right Bitcoin to the Moon yeah there you go no I love it um well man he flew in from Florida thanks so much uh you and your wife really appreciate y'all coming in yeah we appreciate you man um spending some time here in Nashville yes um you your story is one of my favorites and we did a podcast a couple years ago with Scotty yeah and uh I was just shocked to hear it you know I was like I didn't expect it yeah and I'm like wait what and and now I'm like oh it would be amazing to interview you again and just kind of I am knowing what to expect but get to dig in you know even more we are more of a time limit there as well um so your story is one of the most inspirational I think there's going to be a movie on it one day I think that uh when the masses really hear it it's it's almost unbelievable but it can be verified and it's true so yeah uh pretty wild um you know today it's 2024 how old are you I'm 35 you're 35 uh Christian man um turned your life around but just you know how many years ago did you uh get back to the US and go to Rikers for instance yeah so 2014 um Valentine's Day so I just hit my 10- year anniversary yeah so 10 years you know of turning your life back around or or give or take but you know 10 years and 20 years ago it was a lot different and 15 years ago it was a lot different yes 13 years ago you're in a prison somewhere in Europe if I'm my timing is about right yep um so truly incredible story that I think can make a big difference in a lot of people's lives yeah uh if they hear it uh talk a little bit about you know people know you as an MMA fighter and you're doing your crypto stuff now talk about previously uh where you were you know 20 years ago or so or maybe your childhood going into how you got into a little bit of trouble yeah um yeah I'll just kind of give you obviously we could be here all day talking about the whole testimony but um I was born in Denver Colorado and you know pretty young age like 11 moved to Parker was kind of like Southeast Denver and uh you know very talented in sports and just very active and my dad got into wrestling and um you know I I started wrestling late compared to you know how you see most people start when they're four or five six8 I started at 11 years old and just was decided to kind of put down everything else said wow I really want to pursue this wrestling I really like it but I just continued to get in trouble in high school um you know just very active kid very hyper never could sit still the doctors would say add and my parents got to a point and back in the day they would just say we'll take him to the doctor see if something's wrong with him cuz it was like habitual Troublemaker in trouble all the time so they took me to a doctor a traditional doctor oh yeah he's got ADD ADHD and we're going to give him atal well I come from a long line of addiction U my father my uncles my cousins still struggling with addiction to this day and so they gave me out roll and I was instantly hooked you know I was taking it in a small dose and I felt I was like wow it feels good and I kept telling I don't feel it I don't feel it until they maxed out the dose on me so I was taking ader Ral and that turned into drinking and then that turned into smoking weed and ended up doing cocaine very young age ecstasy all the things I could get my hands on how old were you when you were doing the cocaine when you started doing cocaine and ecstasy like 15 16 years old and you know I mean that's a young age to do that kind of drug and so I'm doing all these um hard drugs at a very young age my junior year I'm driving home from a party drank a bottle of Southern Comfort sniff some lines seeing double I used to do this trick where I leaned to the left and Clos one eye to see the line so I wouldn't see double fell asleep behind the wheel drove off the road over a curb missed a tree by a foot and a Sign by a couple inches and for me this was a big wakeup call and one of many times God had you know spared my life after that I was I I didn't get in trouble cuz I just got out and ran I woke up and my foot was still on the gas my wheels are spinning so I woke up and I ran home miles home and didn't get in trouble but my parents were like yo this he's going to kill someone he's going to kill himself and so they called the this rehab it was called turn about Ranch so yeah so I got um sent to this place called turnabout Ranch and this kind of is inspiring me because I saw the benefits that I had and I saw some things I could actually uh do better because you know it really was an eyeopener so I came home from a party one night my mom was being all weird like hey you going to come home tonight and I'm like yeah and basically these two big football players tied me up threw me in the back of a van drove me to Utah put me in a circle of rocks said take your shoes off had to start fires with a bow drill sleep on a wood plank they gave me a horse I mean it was a good life experience I ended up marrying a ranch girl and uh that was kind of my experience into the ranch life cuz I lived it for 3 to four months I came back from this even in all the time and all the partying I was doing I was a two-time state champ I took second my uh freshman year I was took second at Iron Man Tournament of Champions I was an All-American and freestyle and Greco so the problem was too because after that night that I fell asleep behind the wheel I had a wrestling tournament and I showed up hammered drunk mud all over me somehow made weight didn't even change clothes from the night before and ended up winning the tournament my dad hated that because it was like affirming to me that I could party and still win right so After High School um or going into my senior year I just was a habitual offender I got expelled from high school um so I was pretty lost very lost as a kid and just trying to figure out what to do continued to train ended up going to senior Nationals took fourth in the country was getting sworn by college Scouts um got a full ride scholarship offer to Boston University I mean I was getting letters from Stamford Harvard Yale handwritten letters and then they saw I was expelled and they like seea right so I ended up going to a junior college in northern Idaho first day there walking down the street hammered drunk get stopped by a cop on a bike writes me a ticket for littering I rip it up throw it in his face then writes or no sorry writes me a ticket for drinking I rip up the ticket throw it in his face then he writes me a ticket for littering then I run get caught spit on the car get um four charges littering drinking underage evading arrest and um disturbing the peace so just kind of show you the state I was in man I was just drunk were you mad yeah very angry what were you mad about you think I don't know just had some demons in me man the spirit of addiction was just controlling my life and um you know maybe there was something inside me that hated it you know because I knew I had potential I knew I had a big calling on my life and I knew I was just wasting it m um there was something always about it though I would always watch Mike Tyson's Knockouts I would always watch ufc1 like videos like it was something about fighting that was in my heart where I was like wow I could do this I could do this I'm going to go train I'm I'm going to go train I would maybe go once or twice to a random MMA gym but I was partying till 4:00 a.m. at night almost every night so it was no consistency um so after school I was broke I was you know didn't know what the heck I was going to do with my life um I got this full ride scholarship to northern Idaho even though I was messing up and I got all these charges I flew out there um went to school for a couple months drank away all the money I mean they paid for my books my housing um my college like everything all I had to do was wrestle and they it was just another opportunity I blew and in this time it was 2008 my parents had just got divorced it was the housing market crash my parents had put on a half a million dollar addition on the house sold both of their rentals to do it and then the housing market crashed and they couldn't even sell their house for 300K it's now worth 1.5 million and so they basically lost everything MH so I was back in Denver after I got just ruined my college opportunity and I had Petty warrants for my arrest and this girl hit me up that I used to date in in high school and she said come out to Canada to Vancouver you can be my prom date I'll fly you out I like let's go so I went out there ended up falling in love with Vancouver such a beautiful city and I put in my resume which had like my wrestling accomplishments on Craigslist cuz I was like I want to live here and some random guy or like company hit me up and they're like all right meet me downtown so I'm like walking downtown big high-rise building I step into this place have you ever seen the movie boiling room uh yeah I think with Ben afflick and he does that whole so it was like that Spiel or it was like Wolf of Wall Street Spiel and it was selling fixed rate contracts for natural gas we were locking them in at a higher rate because gas is going to go up and we were saving the world this guy had convinced man so I got this job doing door too door sales I'm making two to four grand a week it was very valuable because if you don't know about door to-door sales or even sales it's such an important asset like the the skills that you learn are incredible so I doing this for a while I knock on this chick's door they open the door five chicks in there oh he's cute and they pull me in I sign them all up and then this girl's like she just broke up with her boyfriend you need to take her home and this chick was crying ended up like dancing drinking uh taking her home to her house we're sitting there drinking a bottle of wine pound on her door boom boom boom boom I'm like ah what's going on so she runs and it's like a sliding glass door cuz she lived in like a duplex and she was upstairs she opened the curtain it was her ex-husband oh he had been blowing her up all night and she was um obviously of ignoring him so he showed up so then he saw me and started going crazy like I'll kill you you baah B and so I come to the door I'm like you want me to go out there you want me to go out there he's like yeah yeah yeah and so I slide the door open just enough for my fist to fit through boom punch him in the nose he falls back holding his nose I jump full Mount um and I'm just slapping him like you going to go home you going to be chill just holding him down cuz his two kids are sleeping inside oh jeez but then he just grabs me by my balls and twists oh and like I snap I lift him off the ground I hold him over this two-story balcony and he's like and I hear the girl she's like no so I just like step over hip toss him into this table and then I grab him by his pants in the color of his shirt and take him to a full a flight of stairs and roll him down the stairs wow boom he leaves I move in with this girl's 10 days later oh my gosh she's 36 years old I was 19 the she told her kids I was just a roommate so I mean this was this was crazy times right um I'm living with her everything's going well you know I I bought a car I'm making money I got the girl and eight months later I hear a pound on the door similar to the ex-husband so I'm like oh my gosh he's back round two wake up it's like 7:00 a.m. in the morning come to the door my boxers like ready to go and it was uh immigration this guy had been digging into me and figured I was working illegally I crossed the border illegally cuz I had a DUI so he had called immigration I ended up sitting four nights in a prison cell um because it was a th it was a Thursday and Friday was a holiday and it was when Brock Lesnar fought Cain Velasquez cuz I was so excited to see that fight and I got out man and it was it was crazy because I got out and I was so mad bro and I was like man I'm going to get deported this and that my girl bailed me out she put $5,000 cash to bail me out cuz there's no bail bondsman um which wasn't a lot but at the time it was and we went back to her house she said she was hooking up with some guy while I was gone cuz I was looking for my ecstasy and I wanted to do it and so I guess I drank a bunch of tequila snap trashed the whole house um and the kids woke up the next morning really mad so she jumped on me full Mount and was punching me oh my gosh and all I knew cuz I was on Xanax and doing coke and Tequila so all I knew what was whatever was happening I wanted to stop so I like pushed her off me and she like screamed she's like I'm calling the cops and I grabbed her most expensive bottle of wine cuz she was a wine dealer and I ran towards the beach police cut me off rolled over the car broke the bottle apparently I attacked them they beat me up so bad bro I mean if it was America I probably get shot um you know they stopped me they put me in the back of their Patty wagon and I made front page of the the Vancouver Sun which is like their main newspaper I did about eight or nine months in jail over there and and then they deported me back to the States so I get back to the States back to zero man I'm broke now I just got kicked out of a country did you go back to Colorado yeah they sent me back to Colorado okay so you're in Colorado and you're like 20 years old now or is it yeah so I'm about 20 years old okay so and just going back to the the doctors man because they prescribed me adderal when I was 13 and then I was having like I was like shaky at night so then they prescribed Xanax two 2 migr Xanax bars when I was 17 years old yeah when I went over to Canada I sold these are my prescriptions they faxed them over they sat me down they're like you should not be taking this they were like this is crazy you should like you're healthy you're like something's wrong with these doctors yeah so it's just crazy man how these doctors push those pills and I mean maybe they didn't know I say they're either ignorant or evil um yeah but I think with like the you know with the Aderall um I mean it's very overprescribed I'm not saying that nobody needs it by the way I think that there are you know cases where people need it um but the suggestion that all of these kids need to be taking it at the doses they're taking it at and um you know I was on Facebook and I was getting targeted for Aderall ads like oh you know basically talk to this doctor do you have what symptoms do you have it's like click this button and we can set up a doctor call and you know it's like I mean you're getting marketed for at all so yeah anybody who's an addict is like oh this is legal you know this is a legal prescription here there's nothing wrong my doctor is giving it to me it's like a way out you know it is and so uh it's um definitely overprescribed yeah that's another heart I have you know for really cuz that's the issue right you're a drug addict but you're like well the doctor prescribed it I need this and then you have that mindset and then you're like you find out later I was taking amphetamines at the age of 13 which caused a spiral downfall of me using all these different drugs because I was just searching for a high yeah because every morning I needed that Rush of that adderal so I was like I was like programmed my brain was like I had the monkey on my back at a very young age and you know it's just like you said there is there is a place for medication but these doctors are getting tick they're getting trips to Cancun and you prescribe this many things they're getting kicked back and all that that's well you saw what happened with the with the opiate epidemic I mean that's that's the oh I mean evil as as it gets with that you watched uh dopesick yeah it was incredible and yeah that's that's tough to watch and you're going to hear I I I fell into the opioid so at this time too 20 years old so I came back it was probably a God thing that I left the country after this which I'm going to talk about because all I had three friends die from overdoses on opioids like good kids like wrestlers had good families like you would never think and they just started taking you know the oxy and then it needed then they couldn't get the oxy so then they go to heroin and then there's fentanyl in it or they quit for a while and then they relapse and they do the dose that they used to do yep and they die and they die well people don't realize that too you know the problem with the the initial opiate crisis with the um oxycotton was doctors would get patients on oxycoton which is you know basically like heroin yes um and they wouldn't be able to get their oxycotton prescription anymore or enough to get their fix so they'd have to switch to heroin or they'd go through the withdrawal and so it was really a doctor induced addiction for most of the people oh yeah yeah and and they and they would what well now I don't feel well we'll just double your dose and then you're going deeper and deeper down this hole cuz it's so hard to get out yeah um but yeah so I'm back in Denver Colorado 20 years old parents are split up struggling um you know I just got kicked out of a country you know my dad's partying very hard at this time and you know I was just I need to make some money man cuz I grew up in a you know a middle to upper class family I had things when I was growing up and now I had nothing so I was like I need to do this so I had met some Guatemalans that were connected with the Mexican cartel in Canada and Canada the best cheap sxy so started getting shipment sent over in the mail FedEx boom boom every week every week and this is when the Rave scene was really big me and my buddies would go out we'd make a lot of money so I was like oh wow this is really working out and this is kind of a Bitcoin story too um now we're starting to send Western Unions back to Canada blah blah blah to reup to reup but we're doing it so fast now now they're starting to freeze our Western I'm using random girls here's 50 bucks send this Western Union they're starting to freeze any transactions coming from my city to their city um my boy hits me up he's like hey man' buy this thing called Bitcoin and you can send it to us and I'm like what is it and they're like it's kind of like a stock it'll go up and down and I'm looking at it 17 cents Bitcoin oh wow and uh I was like man I don't understand this so he sends his buddy down with 100,000 pills in his trunk and I'm just giving him cash and this dude's posted up downtown 8 months this um I got we were hanging out with these chicks for a couple months ended up one of them set us up I don't know if she what she had going on uh she said hey my buddy needs a couple thousand pills we went to a Walmart parking lot I could tell this this Mexican cat gets in and he was just he looked scared he was had shaking a little bit the money didn't look like he had enough I said pull out and go to a McDonald's through the McDonald's drive-through she goes to pull out boom smashed in the front smashed in the back daa oh wow jumped on us freaking pistol to my temple on the pavement looking at the broken Walmart sign and I said man I'm going to jail for a long time you had a couple thousand couple thousand pills so I posted bail I got out and I said no way am I going to prison for this long I was looking at four to I was looking at 4 to six um as a first-time offender I was 19 years old I said you know what they went to my my Grandma's house who which she she had an apartment but she lived in New York she she got old enough she never came back to so we were just doing it out of her apartment which is terrible thing to do but um she you know she was kind of abandoned it and they took 30,000 cash I mean they took everything and they and they didn't say anything they just came and they like cut mattresses I mean like it was like full on like the movies MH and uh I said you know what I'm not going to jail I went to the post office and they issued me a passport then I took my phone dropped it in water I bought a ticket on the Greyhound to New York or Indiana I said goodbye to my family there then I hopped on a train from Chicago to New York said goodbye by my family there there was one slipper where I owed someone $2,000 and I had put it in this just random slipper and that was the only money they didn't find I took that I bought myself a ticket from JFK to Amsterdam with about a couple thousand bucks in my pocket didn't know anyone so I was now a fugitive on the Run yeah I made it uh only a only like couple weeks in Amsterdam ran out of money called my cousin who had a buddy in Belgium he said hey man you go live with my buddy and find a job so I took a train or a like a bus over to Belgium ended up living there working at an Irish Pub for a little while um and you know it was doing all right I was helping in the kitchen MH I had worked there for about 8 months kind of living a normal lifestyle and I they're like where's your uh work visa I was like oh yeah it's coming in the mail and then about 3 months in hey Ian that work visa ever come and I'm like nah man you know how the mail is here and they're like well you're a good worker but if immigration comes you got to hide in this closet and I was like wow bro I know I know the feeling now like of how illegals feel here um so anyways I was working there this crazy Irish guy starts or this crazy English guy comes and starts working at the bar I'm in the kitchen this kid have no family this kid was just met this chick in tenie and ended up moving to Belgium so we were working there for a little while we kind of became friends because we were both kind of just crazy and running around and uh one night uh bachelorette party came in and me and him were the only ones there and we ended up just like trashing the place and partying with the girls and we had we both got fired the next day he printed out the Canadian newspaper of me we made him pay we went there we walked to the register we said just pay us what you owe and you'll never see us again and he said don't worry mate I'll get us some jobs so we took the ferry over to England and I didn't know his idea of us getting us jobs was us living in this apartment it was a shell no furniture no hot water no electricity we basically camped in there and painted in the day and I was like dude I don't want to live this life man like I'm I'm moving on this is not for me so we ended up getting a job at a club down in Sheffield it was called it's like Northern England and we worked there for a little while it was at a club hey guys coming into the club he did some crazy stuff tried to steal the safe at a club I was like I don't even know this guy and we actually reunited and UFC a't London and this dude this dude ended up being on like five episodes of uh behind or below the bow it's like it's like a series on what is it Joanie it's like below deck what what what he doing you're like a mate on a boat and it's like a sitcom or it's like a reality drama show so anyways we ended up meeting up but we we went we parted our ways there I've ended up hear hearing about this place called tenar the Canary Islands I made my way down there it was Paradise it was beautiful beaches beautiful women and I walked down the beach and I got to the club area and I said hey you guys hired and they said yeah you're hired on the spot where is the Canary Islands where is that is that uh it's off the coast of Morocco okay so it's not in the Mediterranean it's it's basically like the Cancun of Europe okay yeah so you know there was a lot of opportunity there I ended up working at a club for a Euro a person that I bring into the club so like my job was like Hey guys if you all get a shot I'll will throw in this blah blah blah it was they basically paid me in drinks I got eight drinks when I worked four drinks when I got off so three months of this I was a full-blown alcoholic man really rock bottom man I was homeless I couldn't even afford a30 a week to live in a room with eight other guys cockroach infested like it was bad like I was sleeping on the beach I was sleeping on the Park Bench um but there was this american guy there that I knew he was from Miami and his dad was Colombian he said hey Gringo we think you got a future man we don't want to see you living like this like you got potential blah blah blah come live with us 3 months with him I just worked out I got sober um you know they took me in like family but then one day the dad set me down he's like hey Gringo you want to go make some real money and I was like yeah I do so we started taking the trips down to Colombia Venezuela Aruba and we were getting kilos of coke we're breaking it down packaging it into packages and swallowing a kilo flying back home so about my fourth trip in on Colombia um some random black guy comes up to me in the airport he says D Su passort and I'm like uh no prend sir like just try to act like a real tourist and he's like secret police and I'm like oh he's like he's looking at my he's like you like Colombia huh you come here a lot I was like yeah I have a girlfriend here he's like yeah sure sit down so sits me down to a sketchy looking dude in a beautiful Colombian chick and I look at I'm like where are we what's going on here and they're like the eir Rays the X-ray oh yeah they told me in Spanish so I am and you're in Columbia right now I'm in Columbia okay and I didn't know at the time but I'm looking at 8 to 14 years in Columbia with what I had oh wow he told me only 3 to five and then they told me there's a special paper on it that the X-ray doesn't pick up I thought they were just saying that to BS me so I'm freaking out but I'm just trying not to panic right now I'm like just play it cool man I'm the first one to go up I go up put my hands up they took me to a big room in the bogat airport M it's about room this size big room and they this machine and it was like a treadmill and I walk out of this I'm terrified yeah and they say k1d I send your highest said have a good day sir and I signed and I fingerprint and I walked out of there and the adrenaline dump that I had could compared to winning a UFC fight like bro I was like like I felt like I could jump 10 feet high and I was like trying not to like walk weird but I would like like Sprint and then walk weird like like I was like yeah I mean it was it was a rush bro and then I got on the plane so so they didn't get you there no the paper worked wow what was it so you just put it was like it's like the metallic you know wrapping paper how has the color and then on the other side it's like that it looks like snowflakes but it's all like it was that oh you had it wrapped in the the cocaine wrapped in that so so you would you would compress it into 10 G balls like this MH and then you would put we'd have surgical gloves and you would you would you would first do a plastic and then you put it in the surgical glove we tie it cut it turn it upside down put it back in the surgical four layers of the surgical glove and then they would put um the paper around it and then you would take like like uh Sil Fame like the real smooth plastic and put around it and then you put it in like with like yogurt and stuff and just wow like wake up like six to8 hours before your flight before you had to leave swallow four or five walk around swallow four or five walk around until you get and and my buddy my the guy with you like one more he's like he's like 10 grand 10 grand swallow two more and like like so you you'd swallow as much as you could yeah I mean it was how much did you get per one um so the first time I went I was just like basically a mule you know s €7,000 mhm um everything paid for for me it was like a free vacation plus I got paid and then the Colombian gu is like hey man you can work for yourself but you have to bring this certain amount for me me so then I was making like I mean you spend $11,000 on a kilo and you sell it you break it into 2 kilos it's still good product you sell it for €70,000 um so you're basically 1,000 to 100,000 mhm and you would be able to get back a kilo ingesting it yeah wow good Lord we'd each we'd each get close to a kilo just hoping that it wouldn't explode in your stomach too cuz you'd be oh of course at that point yeah like one time I got deathly it was like one of the first times the first time was the scariest cuz they sent us to Cali columia mm and the guy wasn't with us it was just me and his son and it was with like his girlfriend's brother it was like sketchy dudes I was in like the most G like the most ghetto place in Cali Columbia like we were at the mall in chippy Chapa in this casino and and we were like uh yeah we're in uh this neighborhood and they're like no don't go there there like it was crazy like it was like it was like dirt roads but like they loved me there they were like Gringo like they like I was like the Gringo of the block and for some reason maybe that was it was because of people I was with it was like dirt road piles of trash homeless and then there would be like the most beautiful girls walking around and then it would be like all these dudes hanging out and then all of a sudden they would just take off running and police would be chasing them down these alleys like it was just it was crazy you'd hear gunshots um it was crazy but we didn't wrap our first first um our first batch yeah and I got defitely sick that time cuz like we went up into the jungle in columia and like I had like one of those sombreros on and I asked this little kid I was like uh where's the Gia and he's like I which is like the the Gia is like the like the cartel so I asked him I was like where are they and he's like over there and I was like H it's like they see a white boy like and like all the little kids would surround me cuz they never seen a white boy and like it was just it was like a crazy experience after that we kind of did it better where we wrapped our own stuff I felt a lot better but I came back and I got deathly ill and I started like feeling like I was fainting and I was like this is it I'm going to die like I thought I was just going to foam at the mouth and and die so after the secret officer secret police guy x-rayed us then I started to feel invincible so I'm like what are they going to do x-ray us like I beat the X-ray the paper works yeah so we used to do 3 months 3 months now I was doing one month one month one month and uh you know as fast as you make money the fast as it goes about 15 trips finally I flew back to tene they took me in the room they questioned me why do you come here so much and it was very odd cuz I didn't have credit cards I just had cash I was like I'm a rich American I have girlfriends my parents Western you need me money they're like that you know rich people don't use Western Union right so they let me go my girlfriend came in that checked out they let me go we walked down the Colombian guy was waiting in the parking garage for us like an idiot he should have jumped on a taxi and got out of there boom drug task force jumped on us instead of taking us to the X-ray in the airport cuz they didn't have one they took us to the hospital and that was the real X-Ray boom you know the plaque don't move and I was like moving and stuff like no don't move like I'm not and I'm like and and then finally they laid me down so I couldn't move and they saw it and it was like they couldn't really see it but they saw this little and it was this beautiful Spanish girl and she's like and then and they're like the the drug people I was G I was like my girlfriend's crying I'm a tourist here to come spend money in your country I was just being an [ __ ] to them and they're like we're so sorry we don't think we didn't see anything they're looking and the medical director is like you have drugs in your intestines what is it heroin cocaine she's screaming at me in Spanish and I was like Noah I was like no it's not no she's like it is it's seguro and I was like no I had Chinese food cuz it looked like a little like a little circle and they're like yeah shut up boom handcuffs hospital for 3 Days making me drink this xlax wow yeah it was it was bad because I felt really bad for the girl cuz she had nothing to do with it and she was going to jail too oh man but I said everything I was like she had nothing to do with it she doesn't even know they let her go but her son like got left at school like it was it was a deal man it was a mess so that's uh so that was in Columbia you got arrested or is that when you when you got over to Spain Spain yeah Spain okay so you got in you landed in Spain they get you you said in the in the airport parking lot yeah they first put me in the office and then they waited for us in the parking lot yeah to see who our accomplice was and he was of course waiting there he shouldn't have been but after you got the office where you're like oh oh [ __ ] I'm free yeah yeah was that the first time you gotten stopped and second time okay yep yep so I was like you know it cuz it all checked out my girlfriend was there picking me up she was a resident M um so yeah then I got taken in there I sat two and a half years without a trial or two years without a trial or a court date or anything apparently they can keep you there four years wow so yeah okay so Spain it's not you don't get like do process like in the United States like you're you're waiting for up to four years you waited two and a half years were you in a jail or a prison the prison yeah so they sent you to the prison and in this time man so I'm I'm locked up and it's like man I feel I feel terrible and I mean anyone would right you're locked up your whole life's upside down and you know there's so many times in my life when stuff like this happens and it end up being the best thing that could have ever happened to me mhm um because I started to sober up I started to think more I started to look around the people around me and I said I'm not like these people MH uh there was a wrestling program it took three months to get in it was like called Lucha Canadia it was like sagales African style wrestling in a sand pit best out of three takedowns no weight classes you had to eliminate the whole team um in a s pit like a gladiator s pit I walked up to the coach I showed him my ear this is in in the prison so there's a what's it called again Lucha Canadia there's a Lucha Canaria wrestling team program program inside the prison in Spain yes okay so the coach ended up being the father of Juan Espino who was a UFC fighter okay I had no idea at the time Juan Espino is like the goat of Lucha Canaria like he's like the man and his dad who was his coach is locked up for like 50 kilos oh okay so he's coaching the wrestling and I roll to him and usually got to sign all these papers and petition why you deserve I pointed to my cauliflower here he said yep you're coming so I started wrestling the team me and one other crazy American and we're the only Americans there and he wrestled in high school too so we were just going at it and I fell in love with wrestling again man they had a professional team that gets paid come off the streets and wrestle us we beat them oh wow we freaking beat him man how was it in so so uh how were the other wrestlers on your on your your program in in prison um there was a few sagales Africans who do similar style okay pretty good most of them um were junkies so they weren't that good but there was a few guys who actually did it when they were younger and they were good I see I broke two bones in there uh two guys bones but honestly I think it was cuz they were drinking the methadone um yeah cuz one guy I just had a like a like a overhook and I was falling back and I cranked it and it broke his arm m and the other guy I like hip tossed and his foot planted and it and it twisted and po pop and they're like man if you break another bone you're done but when we beat the team we were on the front page of the newspaper nice and they came up to me and they were like you love this don't you and I was like I've done wrestling I've done Jiu-Jitsu but my favorite is Lucha Canary I was trying to play it off because I thought literally I thought I was going to be the president of the Federation of Lucha Canadia wrote the a letter to the warden of the prison and said we want this American we want to recruit him oh nice so keep him on the island so when he's out we're going to give him a contract this is why you're waiting to get sentenced mhm okay so that's a two and a half year period yeah okay yeah about a two-year period cuz me and me and the Colombian guy we kept looking at each other we're like maybe the coke was fake H maybe we're going to get out you know like we didn't know it was weird right to be locked up and have no idea yeah your lawyer doesn't know the embassy's a joke like it it was it was it was pretty but I just took care of it I man I was like it was good for me because I was like train my mind train my body and my soul every single day I was reading books I was seeking the Lord and I was and I was training it was a full fight camp for me and like God just kept putting in my heart he's like you're going to be UFC chant when you get out and I would tell these guys this and they're like there was a kickboxing program I started kickboxing that was my first uh ever like introduction to kickboxing Mo Moses was there he was the K1 champ he was locked up the day he got out he used to beat me a bad and then I would wrestle him he wanted to do MMA so I traded him my wrestling skills for some of his kickboxing and he really helped me out he pieced me up a lot though um and the day he left this guy came who was training in Thailand this is probably some of the issues why I had concussions cuz I would fight these guys super hard and get like my bell rung hard and then it would be Siesta which was like an 4 hours in her cell and I would just go to sleep yeah oh yeah and so it was probably not best for the brain but anyways it was full fight camp for me man and I was like I was like man I might do this Lucha Canary I might stay here in Spain until like my cuz the goal was always to have um statue of limitations I was always hoping that my charges I heard it was 5 years and I heard it was seven years then I heard it wasn't at all mhm so I was just always I looked into joining the French Foreign Legion before I got locked up cuz my buddy was in there and just ended up not doing it um but I turned I turned literally the whole prison experience into a fight Camp I was training every day I was training MMA then I was training wrestling and there was a lot of people in the higher-ups in the prison that were like racist you could say they were like screw this Amer he beats us at our own sport like they were pissed so after another Lucha Canaria tournament where they had the A Team come from the outside we didn't win that time but they said they told me don't talk to the media and I still did an interview and I was saying how much I love it and I woke up in the morning the this chick warden came in threw the bag or this bag in my face pack your stuff they didn't tell me they were going to move me I had I had a terrible Vision at the time I got lasic now like I couldn't like I couldn't see my wife like I couldn't see far like it was like it was like minus 6 or something crazy like really bad vision and my buddy was bringing me contacts and I had a girlfriend and the girlfriend and we were doing like eventually she stopped coming after a while but I had like kind of help on the island and they threw a bag of me pack your stuff you're leaving in 30 minutes boom sent me to the airport locked up these gangster police with uh like ski mask came like open your mouth like straight up air style like we're at the airport Shackled like this like if you looked up they whacked you in the head they dug in my mouth with their fingers took our shoelaces off um and put us on like a they rented a commercial jet and they all put us on it we had to sit with our head down was this a commercial jet that was just yours or was it like there's other other people no no no it was just convicts murderers rapists cartel like it was bad they were shipping us to um a different prison to the mainland and anytime you lifted your head up Wham they would smack you in the head and it was funny cuz I just watched Conair a couple like a couple weeks before this and um anyways we we were landing and I started I was like he's got the whole world in his hands and these bermudan guys started dying laughing and they beat me up for it but I was like man it was worth it we landed we landed on the plane I was I was like I'm going to get to tell this story someday I was like I was getting like an adrenaline rush I was like just do it bro just do it and I knew the guys like three rows they started laughing and they got hit with the stick too so what they is they were they were hitting you with a stick yeah oh my gosh and if you like lifted your head up to look around they'd whack you was this Spanish it was like it was like secret like it was like their like uh it was like their FBI or secret forces or like I don't know from Spain it was from Spain yeah so then we get to this prison basically they transported me to this place called Leon and I got there and they had a boxing program and I was like yeah I'm in so I started boxing and this old Champion guy had been locked up for like 20 30 years started training full-time you could have a couple activities in the day and I would pick all boxing so I would do like three four hours of boxing a day and um eventually they set me up with a few fights and it was like the it was like the movies man they would come bet on it where are you now again in a place called Leon okay so you went from the canaries to Leon where is Leon um it's like the north of Spain North Spain yeah it's like the top of it um small farm town and you still hadn't been convicted of anything yet uh no that's when I had been convicted so they convicted you that's why they got you yeah so about two years in that one then they boom slapped me with a three and a half year sentence okay and then and then they Shi me to the north of Spain did you get two years off of good t for for time already served so I signed a paper that I won't come back to the European Union which I thought it was only Spain at the time that's why I had so much issues fighting in UFC London I see but it was the whole European Union I signed a paper it was called um EXT ex extr extradition or something where if I didn't come back to uh Europe they would give me one fourth of my sentence cut off okay and they deport you so I was like yeah I'll do that yeah of course exactly they never see me again yeah exactly so um we get to the north of Spain I start this boxing we I fight these like Russians like I I lost I remember even losing a fight there because like this dude is he he had like 20 years in prison and all he's been doing is training yeah so like these guys were good man but it was a really good experience for me where I was like starting to get my hands and I was just loving it I was like man I'm going to get out and I'm telling these guys I'm beating up dudes and I'm like they let me start my own MMA program like I signed I wrote all these papers I had this guy I was like dude write it in Spanish all good why I I I should do this MMA program and they let me do it so I was teaching MMA and the guards would show up and if guys had an issue I'd be like come to my class you guys can Spar and like so people were walking around black guys and stuff and they're like all happy and uh it was pretty wild man like it it just open my eyes and you'll see why I have this dream of starting um like a treatment center almost a halfway house because I know what it did for me because once I got locked up in the states it just turned me into an animal like all the people in there there was nothing for them to do let's just sit around and if he uses my toaster or chair we're going to stab him yeah like that's that's their mindset but when I was locked up over in Europe I got to wear my street clothes I I had to I got visits like normal visits and I was able to train I was able to do activities yeah so you started a boxing or rather you uh you started in a boxing program uh that they had for the inmates and then you petitioned the I guess the warden to be able to start an MMA program yes and they said yes yes okay so when they said yes did you how did you get Matt or did you get Matts or how did that work they had like Tai Tomi okay so we just laid it out in this Little Gym area and we just started like with wrestling and then we were doing some jiujitsu and then we started doing the Striking and we were just running it and they had they would just come in and watch us sometimes and it was just like they were good with it because no one complained yeah even though people out would get black eyes and stuff but no one would complain everyone loved it man sure and then after that everyone was so chill yeah we weren't aggressive towards the guards we weren't we weren't starting trouble at night we just wanted to train our MMA get our food maybe a little hash at night and that was it like like and it just shows like the mindset of prisoners and they have no outlet for their aggression yeah for sure and and you you treat someone like an animal they will turn into one yeah no no doubt about it I mean You' think that's you think that'd be common sense but yeah I I also understand the mentality of you don't want to give somebody that's locked up anything special but at the same time uh I think that idea is wrong because it it does make sense you're punishing them But ultimately uh it should be about the result uh if someone's going to get out of them being reformed reform yeah there's no reform it's a revolving door it's a business when you turn something like that into a business I mean these are statistics from years ago but the average gmate the government profits like 60,000 a year interesting yeah because for that yeah yeah well I mean I know that the uh the jails I don't know about the prisons but the jails are yeah they're a they get money based on how many inmates they have and the more inmates that they get the more money they get and it's uh you know yeah so they do uh benefit from more people being in there and you think about all the people that have probably stayed in jail longer than they were supposed to you people don't think about that like if you're locked up I know when my brother was locked up uh I got locked up after him um but same charges but we went on different at different times and the can I ask what it was for oh ecstasy yeah this is like 20 something I was three weeks after my 20th birthday I was facing 15 years in federal prison and uh I ended up getting an eight-year sentence uh with eight months to serve eight years probation uh 540h hour work weeks a year uh for eight years of community service wow I mean it was it was no joke Man In The End but uh while he was locked up they weren't letting people out with their good time and so my mom wrote a letter to the state okay and the enti like the state jail board whatever they're called or whatever and the entire uh state had to let out a bunch of people because they weren't you know letting people out in time and so um my brother actually got let out that day yeah and then they said oh we let you out ear they put him back in it was kind of screwed up how that worked 48 Hours imagine his mindset I'm free oh I got to go back in that would suck but um no the system is I mean and I got a trustee job so I was like cleaning the jail oh wow and we got you get more time off for that oh yeah you know so I was all about how can I knock off as much time as possible that's the whole game bro same here but there were no programs of like boxing or I would have Lov to be able to teach MMA in there or something oh yeah um but uh so yeah I I agree with you I mean you look at you know a lot of the Gils too are first time nonviolent offenders as well drug offenders and um you know we shouldn't be treating addiction for the most part like we treat crime yes because it's you know most of the criminals right now have drug problems yeah and you're right it is it is a revolving door now I don't think that you know if someone's a violent Criminal you know you got to protect Society from them yes so you you you want to have you probably different programs from for those that are being violent towards others but you know drugs I mean it's like why not what we've been doing doesn't work so we should probably try something different in 2024 yeah well I mean it used to be more of a reform they took the weights out they took all the programs out now basically all you can do is learn how to be a barber and Felons or barbers hire felons like the corporate ones so they're kind of screwed yeah yeah I mean there's we could talk about that all day because it's just the difference between what I had in and they go you know they are they were very lenient in um in a Spanish prison everyone's like oh my gosh you're locked up in a foreign prison I'm like thank God because after I did another 6 months in this Leon Spain finally they would do mental Warfare stuff though they would say oh you're going to get out and send you a letter and then 3 months to go by oh you're going to get out we'll send you a letter then a month to go by and they would like say this stuff Manana Manana this would be the Jael guards or who would be telling you minana the guards and the like upper the courts the courts yeah interesting so they would they would really dig in you the men so you had to come to a point where you just didn't care yeah that's how you would win because if you cared they would put you on this roller coaster and you would it was it was tough if yeah so anyways then after um they took me they put me on a plane they sent me to JFK mhm commercial jet I was free for the first time people thought I was so weird I was just like walking around and like oh my gosh like you know two and a half years I'm finally free and uh I land though in New York and I was like uhoh here we go they give me my passport cuz a flight attendant had to hold my passport now I'm a free man not for long though in my mind I'm thinking all these things I'm like man should I just run for it and I'm like no dude 911 dude they're not going to said Security's going to be strong so I just roll up give my passport Mr heish how long you been out the country I'm like a while they're like what's a while I'm like 5 years like they beep it it beats Red Man uh one second sir come with us yeah damn yeah felony warrants so they put me in the jail in the airport and like it was that was a crazy Place bro they were like I don't know if they're like beating people and stuff but like I heard people screaming in there and like trying to get answers like cuz people would show up with like fake papers you know and like they had no idea who these people are and they were fake papers and um but then they put me in they sent me to the Jamaica Queen jail house and I was there for the weekend Jamaica Queens jail house okay so Queens New York yeah okay terrible yeah I can only imagine how long were we there for drug addicts three days three days oh my gosh so what day was this was like a weekend or something yeah it was a weekend so so you had been in prison in Spain for three and a half years basically two and a half two and a half years um you get out you get on a plane back to the US you're probably thinking in your head yeah they're probably going to stop me like maybe they won't maybe they won't yeah you're convincing yourself maybe they won't you get stopped of course they're like oh you have warrants and now you're in Jamaica Queens jail in Queens New York yeah okay yep and so I'm in this big room and I mean people are coming off heroin puking and it's a weekend so it's just B one room how many people are in this room one room probably 30 40 people in a room this size so I'm just in the it's brutal and you know just sleeping in the corner how many other white people were were there zero yeah you're the only white Puerto Ricans and and uh African-Americans and I was like finally I yelled the girl was like I was like what's going on cuz they kept yelling like people come in people get called out and they're like shut up you're a special case CU I was a fugitive damn so finally I see the judge the judge says there's no chance of bail and I'm like okay and then I get in this room and my public defender or whatever they are I never she's like you need to go to protect the custody and I was like why she's like you're going to Riker's Island and I was like I didn't even know Rikers was I was like so I was like in my mind I was like I I I've been locked up two and a half years throw me up the wolf I'll lead the pack like that was my mindset and um so was like no I'm good as we're driving across this bridge I'm like whoa this is an island like cage after cage after fence after fence and I'm like looking around like wow they're walking me to my pod or whatever the guard looks at me he's like man you must be one bad white dude I'm like why and he's like we don't see you in this wing and I was like and in my mind I was like oh shoot like I was like you know but I was like yeah you you damn right and you know I was and I was in maximum security in Riker's Island so um you know I was with like the real troublemakers there so they throw me in and ride way dudes Rush myself C where you from where you claim blah blah blah blah blah I don't want nothing to do with none of you guys get out and it was tough man that was a tough couple months and uh you know like doing deals for they wanted my phone time and it was just like wanted your phone time what do you mean just like stupid stuff they're like you know they're always trying to take stuff like you know you get a certain amount of phone yeah so yeah so you you get in there uh they Rush your cell like what what was the first because you're not in the gang yeah you know are there other white people in that jail no so you're the only white dude in the whole Max security of there there's there was some white people I ran into like two okay but not in this pod okay so this pod you're the only white dude yeah and so what was what was the talk I mean were they going to kill you is it like well they put a Snickers bar under my pillow you never eat that because then you you owe them something so I said take your stuff bro I don't want nothing from you guys and it was just it was just uh it was a struggle man I was just like dude stay away from me like and luckily I spoke Spanish so I was like talking to the Latin Kings like I was like really chopping up well I didn't know what they were I was just talking to him and like telling them what where I came from and what I was doing and like the connections I have and basically it was like that first day I had my tray of food and it was like all the gangs everywhere and I'm just walking oh my gosh and then and the L and luckily this the the Latin guys were like sit here and I was like thank God yeah and and it was all right man um so that's because if if you if nobody let you sit anywhere like oh they're going to get you bro yeah they're they're just looking at you like he's with no one yeah they're going to abuse you you know so you know weeks go by then they start doing this crazy thing bro they're like they make me go to court hus you're going to court tomorrow okay Shackled up walk pull your pants down Squat and cough like do all that stupid stuff jump on a bus get drove to Queens sit in a nasty disgusting jail like a holding cell Fe fed these nasty peanut butter and jelly sandwiches eight hours all right we're going back what no lawyer no judge like no like what are we doing they did this the next day then the next day who who is doing this I don't know the the jail or the courts or what I don't know why they were doing it it was it was ridiculous and then they and then finally the third day I was like no I'm not going they come up with tasers okay and fingers I I made friends with this this Latin guy and he was he's missing a couple fingers they called him fingers so I was like I was like dude I'm not going man cuz I told him I basically was like I was like told him to F off and like they left and then they came back he's like they're going to come with tasers you better go they came with the tasers I said I'm ready to go yeah and uh I came back and I was just in a bad mood man and one of the one of the gangs was like Hey we're going to use your phone I said nobody's using my phone today and I just went my cell and he's like oh really and they see me Shadow Boxing him my cell cuz I've been training full time he's like you think you fight we fight for real on the streets and I'm like sure bro cool cool story and uh so this dude finally after I told him no for my phone he's like all right meet me in the back so I'm like and this is a big dude like so I'm like all right he's going to scrap like let's we're going to do this so I rolled back there and he's like boom he pulls this nasty looking shank out bro and he's doing this like and I'm like and I'm like dude no bro please man I don't want no problems and I learned a few tricks so I was like I got real close to him all scared and like please man please boom just caught him right on the chin dude flattened him face down and then all his brothers came running up mhm three little Latin dudes getting and I took my shirt off and I wrapped it around my hand cuz I was ready to grab knives cuz I knew they were I thought they were just going to be like cuz I saw this happen bro like a a [ __ ] came in one time and you know they're from the opposite gang and bro they just stomped him out like like where he was laying there for like 20 minutes in pool of blood and like they would like come around and soccer kick him in the face when he was out cold and the guards are sitting there eating sandwiches watching TV wow the guards would come in and be like what up BL what up BL what up BL so the guards were on the same gang as these guys they were friends from the Block MH apparently when Obama put in this like new law where like they need to have like Section 8 give them government jobs M the ones with clean records got all these jobs so there guards in there wow so it was bad bro like I mean like people were dying like a lot like and guards were real nasty too like someone would be getting dragged down the hallway as you're walking and you have to put your face against the wall and the guard came up to me and went ah in my ear like and I was like and I turned around and he pulled his night stick out turn around like like why bro and he was a white guard like you scared me like yeah like no but like why would he do that like he's just trying to abuse you of course and so these little Latin guys get in front of me and they all have Shanks and this the Bloods are coming up they're coming up to fight like they're coming up to stab me and they're like wait so so you had the Latin ones with the shanks and the Bloods were also coming to stab so I dropped homeboy okay and was I don't want to say the gang affiliation you're saying there was a lat Latin gang and then some other gang coming at you so two different gangs no the Latin guys have my back oh okay Latin guys so they stood in front and they said you mess with white boy you mess with us he got heart and I was just like M I'm like thank you Jesus like cuz that's crazy Y and then they were like the guards came broke it up put us back in our cells fingers are like cleaning the hall sweeping the hall he walks by myself C he's like hey man he's like Gringo you got to get out of here man I was like why he's like he's like these Bloods are going to kill you bro like they this gang they're they're coming for you and I'm like what they say he's like they got a SOS and I'm like what's that stab on site it's like wherever you go they're going to get you you you ain't no punk you got to go to protect the custody though they're going to get you it's like call the guard over and I'm like guard guard and I like hit the button and they come over and I was like these guys are going to kill me you have to get me out of here and he has this smirk on his face he goes F you white boy and slam the door I'll never forget that look he had in his face damn so I was in my cell dude and we we were like taking sub box in me and fingers passing him back and forth like getting all high off this weird stuff and I'm wrapping my hands I'm making armor I'm pulling the beds apart like I knew they were going to open the doors and just let these dudes come in cuz they're their boys MH and I seen them do this to other guys so like I'm up just praying and like just like almost like hallucinating from whatever this drug I'm taking in and like so it's like 6:00 a.m. or it was like 5:00 a.m. the do open at 6:30 heish and I pop up and I'm all like ready bro like I had it all like the I had everything tucked in my shirt like I had armor ready I was like I like had the mattress moved over so I was like funneling through the hot Gates like I was ready to go like and they were like looked at me so weird cuz like my whole place was turn down they're like like grab your stuff we got to go and I'm like who are you and they're like US Marshall and like bro it was one another time God it was just like like pull me out of there and he walked me P they walked me past that hallway and like all these dudes are like wherever you go we going to get you white boy in my head I'm like you ain't going to Colorado and uh I'm good peace so they walked me out of there threw me in a van Shackled like this and dude they drove to Pennsylvania to Vermont back to New York 48 hours later were back in New York apparently when they crossed borders they would get paid more pick someone up drop someone off pick someone up so they did this circles around the country so the heater was broken m in the back seat in February in the east coast so every night shivering bro like you couldn't even sleep I didn't sleep for 11 days 11 days straight I did not sleep all they fed us was McDonald's and Burger King it was fast food and then they would only let you pee every 6 hours you had to be at a jail so I stopped drinking water cuz one time I was I had to pee so bad and we were like two hours away I was like dude I have to pee they bounced the Gatorade bottle off my head and I had to like pick it up hit my knees Shackled and like piss all over myself like it was embarrassing bro I was just like dude this is terrible and there was like old guys on there like almost dying and stuff every 72 hours they were required to put you in a a jail but for some reason I had it unlucky I would like lay down like thank God I get to sleep heish you got to go and like so like I constantly for 11 days was on a bus like this and that was bad bro like I was like that was probably the worst part like I looked no lawyer you didn't know who like what was going on phone no one KN can know where you're at wow because like you basically lose touch with the world like no one knows where you are because they don't want people to know where you if people have your location they might try to break you out or something like that they said so and and the and like the food and like the bathroom times was crazy bro and then like the heater was broken so I was screaming I'm like dude we we're like freezing back here and they're like shut up we won't feed you it's like We complain they would stop feeding us so like I was like gosh bro like America's terrible like this is the US Marshalls yeah wow that's incredible yeah so um so finally we get to Colorado we get we get to this mountain jail and there was bed sheets pillows toothbrush like it was heaven but you you stay up for like three you stay up for 11 days you start hallucinating and I couldn't sleep after that like it was like it was very weird anyways I was in I made it to Jefferson County it's it's in Colorado boom my parents finally they bail me out 2014 Valentine times day I was a free man wow I called my dad I said dad what are you doing he says I'm at a yoga festival downtown you want to come I like yeah so I went from being around all Moroccans and Spanish people to All Around Puerto Ricans and blacks to all around like white boys and then all of a sudden I'm at a yoga festival with all white chicks and like it was just like I I was doing yoga and laughing and people were like looking at me and my dad's just like laughing too cuz like I like you guys have no idea so you have no idea what I just been no idea what I just been through wow and my dad said like he's like dude it was like you were like like a kid again or something cuz everything was so new and like yeah you have to think I was gone for 5 years a lot changed in America like like I was behind so this is 2014 so uh how long were you in Rikers for um I think like five or six weeks five or six weeks okay and then you said they were driving you in circles but when did when did you know you were going to Colorado well I knew I was going to Colorado cuz I had a warrant there and they're extraditing me yeah I just didn't know we were making like a bunch of stops all these stops bro like cuz apparently yeah I think they get paid like they pick someone up drop someone off pick someone up drop someone off some crazy people like Escape artists and stuff this guy this guy is locked up for escaping prison three times oh wow and uh I was like you you really think you could Escape like we're just having this convers he's like oh yeah he's like I always do and I was like really he's like but I'm not going to cuz I have a kid now and I don't want to get in trouble again and I was like well at least tell me when you would cuz like I was just like so mind blown he slips his cuffs he's just back there chilling like I'm like bro how do you slip your cuffs and like and like uh he and like I was like trying to be cool with him cuz I was like it's kind of scary when you're like this and someone's free like if they were mad at you like they could really smoke you like smoke you yeah and was a point where they were unloading people and like the guard was behind and the door was open and he has his slip cffs he's like no I could and he's like he could he could run right now and I'm like wow but anyways it was just interesting people and 2014 Valentine's Day I'm a free man for the first time out of yoga Festival then um you know I know I have to I can't drink I knew that was the common denominator stop drinking I always got in trouble with drinking and I need to find an MMA gym and I called my buddy and he said yeah we know of MMA gym and I went to factory X and um I started training and this my buddy was the one I used to wrestle you picked me up every single day and take me to the gym and the day he stopped going to the gym I got my driver's license so I didn't miss a day of training nice so I went four and0 as an amateur all finishes were you were you completely off of drugs at this point yes okay so you're clean yep good I was doing like smoking hash in jail and I had like a little bit of Xanax and I was taking a sleeping aid every night but I was clean when I got out and so I started started training I I started fighting as an amateur 4-0 M then I started fighting as a pro8 no four finishes and I got to this fight LFA Championship you win this belt you win this title you're going to the UFC you lose you're in the back of the line I went into that fight and as you know and everyone knows when you're not living right outside the cage it always shows inside well one year before this my coach my old coach used to push me to spar right before fights to do all these crazy stuff when I had a concussion he pushed me to spar um and I was sparring the Friday before my fight popped my LCL went to the doctor had to pull out of a fight doctor prescribed me 40 perco setes boom instantly hooked yeah next thing you know I'm doing oxies with my dad um smoking them I'm sniffing them I'm going to Mexico after my fights to buy more because I can buy over the counter it was a vicious cycle I would quit three weeks before a fight for one week I would have deathly withdrawals like sick like a flu yeah then I would feel kind of good then I would it would be fight week then I would go fight I win the fight and of course to celebrate I wasn't drinking so I would take oxy mhm um and I was so addicted man to oxy and like I saw so many friends die of this and I was taking crazy amounts I was taking tram at all and I was taking everything man like any painkiller like you know it was getting real bad man where I was like willing to do whatever for it you know where you get in that stage and after I lost that first fight your first fight you lose is always the most devastating it's terrible like it's like it just hits you hard like after you lose a couple you just don't know what to do with these feelings yeah so I went on this camping trip and I had been going to church and going to this Bible study but I was still doing drugs and hooking up with chicks and it was just it wasn't matching up with what I was trying to believe in and my my buddy Nate Mart UFC Legend um is a mentor of mine he gave me this Bible study and it was me and my buddy busted it out we went camping in this crazy spot I hiked till this hike we hit a storm and almost killed us I was chopping wood till my hands bled I just wanted to feel pain I was so mad I just wanted to let that aggression out and finally we calmed down and uh I busted out this Bible study and it just said it was just challenging my salvation and my faith and I felt offended at first and then it hit me like a ton of bricks it was I was living as a hypocrite I was not truly saved and at that moment I was like God take my life cuz if you don't take take it I'll take it cuz I don't want this life I'm sick of it I've worked so hard and and I have nothing to show and I'm just a junkie again and uh I'm just addicted and the next couple weeks I went to church and there was a baptism call I had no idea God was pulling so hard on my my heart to go do it I went in that water it looked clear when I walked out it looked black to me and I felt God say that was your addiction and that was your sin dead and at that time I was broke I was living in my buddy's basement I was not in the UFC I never paid taxes in my life I was basically not a real citizen and a year later I met my beautiful wife married her we bought a house together I broke into the UFC I broke into the top 10 and I was a taxpaying citizen for the first time in my life that's awesome yeah man and what was that like you know so you know you basically you had your addiction again which I was an optic as well um 2008 I tore my LCL PCL miniscus oh wow same and um we had team doctors they gave me prescription pain pills I taken for about two years and I wasn't like I i' never went to oxy thankfully all Lura tab yeah U and um couple years in I was like I'm just going to stop went through withdraw uh you know multiple times over the next six months try to stop withdraw withdraw withdraw went to a therapist and I said uh you know I'm completely functional running my companies but rather have a clear brain and deal with a pain that a f foggy brain in no pain he said uh uh America's behind the times when it comes to opiate would draw Google IBO gain and so I Google IBO gain and supposedly it stopped 100% of Opie withdrawals really and um uh I was skeptical so I watched a couple documentaries I'm like you know what I'll give it a try uh went to it was illegal in the United States went to Mexico City took a bus C hour south uh did IO gain at a place called a Boga Quest and was home 72 hours later never had a withdraw never had a craving wow and um that's actually how we got into the healthcare stuff we're doing now because that sparked the well if this works but isn't available in the United States what else is out there you know wow but um you know so you know with the addiction though I can only imagine you know once you're you were addicted you you were an addict you went to prison you were clean had convinced yourself that you were making these changes in your life which you were you overcame a tremendous amount of adversity you got out of Rikers barely you know sent cross country get clean bunch of fights but then now you have this addiction like what is really you know you have you know you you prayed like God either take my life or I'm going to take it but what you know what is the mindset like is it just hopelessness what was the big spark besides that uh you know Nate giving you that that verse um yeah it was just it just came to a point where it was like like you said I've been through so much and I overcame what I thought was my addictions before and now I'm about to be in the UFC and change my life and now I just lost this fight and it's because I'm addicted to oxy and I can't get off and after everything I've came through now I'm back hooked on drugs and I'm so close to my dream and it it got taken away I thought at the time where I was trying to control everything and it became this overwhelming feeling of I can't do this by myself I need God and I need to surrender my life because I'm trying to control every situation every outcome and it was just like it was just a mountain of stress and anxiet on top of me and just and every time I tried to control it it failed where I was just like man I need faith I need to give this to God and whatever the outcome may be it's his plan so did you go through the withdrawal as well again you know is it like you just were like one day I'm not going to take this anymore and you went through the dope sickness and well yeah yep man 100% actually I had zero withdrawals really I had zero withdrawals after I got baptized it was crazy I actually I actually um it was a baptism call and I knew I was going to do it but I wanted my mom and and family to be there so I said it was a Saturday service I said let's do it on Sunday tomorrow I'll be back I went and binged that night adderal uh Xanax opioids everything and the crazy part is all those prescription drugs are probably the worst for you and I'm sitting there sh itchy heart pumping laying on my bed and I'm like dude I hate this why do I do this to myself and the next day I went in and uh to church got baptized zero withdrawals after felt the most love the most light the most weight lifted off me the most amazing I felt but then all of a sudden I had this like weird head feeling of like and maybe you could call that withdrawals but it lasted a month of like um like when you're coming down from being high like on weed and you just have that like fogginess MH I had foggy or almost concussion for a month like I told my coach two weeks in I said and I was I was transparent with him about what was going on I'm like dude I'm not training cuz I don't know what's going on with my head and like a month after all of the sudden one day the fog just lifted like this and I felt God say that's the feeling you never want and now I never want that feeling cuz I used to like that feeling of kind of high and out of it and don't care and and and now I love to be sharp I love to be on point and I don't I think it was God showing me that feeling that I never want to have again mhm so he made me have that I'm praying I'm like I did what you wanted God I was obedient you know um I changed my life like and I'm surrendering and it was just I just had to stay faithful faithful faithful and literally one day and I don't know if it was audible or a voice inside of me but I heard that's the feeling you never want and from that day I've been sober mhm and and you know I used I've used like uh CBD and THC and stuff um for pain but if it goes too far from just a body relief if it goes too far to like a high I will feel that feeling and I don't want that feeling yeah yeah I I have to uh I have to watch it when if I get injured you know I tell the doctor that I'm going to I'm like hey you I had this opiate problem like don't give me x y and z mhm uh I just don't want to take a chance man you know it's like get that get that feeling again and you know it's hard to explain until you until you've been through it yes you know your mind just plays tricks on you like you always had an excuse to do it you know at least for me that's how it was for me it's like always an excuse oh well this hurts oh well oh well it's the weekend oh it's my day off like there was always an excuse your that little voice in your head is so evil like that's that's not and that's the thing when I first went to uh sell your perform perance Institute um and I got the intal I tried doing zero pains bro yeah and you know you're on the bed and I remember like and I was like just give it to me and they hit me with something I was like I'm going to go out I'm going to go out I'm going to go out and the very nice nurse you had there was like just take deep breaths like that that was like I was so glad she did yeah and I just took deep breath and I ended up doing like uh tramal after and and it was just it was just a different feeling though like yeah I had that like uh like that good feeling but it was like it wasn't like I need this again so I do believe God changed something in my heart but yeah I'm still nervous cuz I don't want to I don't want to open doors I don't want to play with fire cuz that was that when you're out of that man you never want to go back yeah no no doubt about it I mean like I said I'm I watch it pretty carefully if I if I injured or whatever you know um and it was actually kind of funny uh this is probably five or six years ago I woke up with these back spasms so much so like I couldn't get out of bed had my phone there I'm like and uh it's like lower back um and so I lower middle back like spaz if I move that's tough and uh I'm like shoot so I call my buddy John saterfield I'm like hey man like I don't want to call an ambulance but would you mind coming over here and helping I need your help to get out of bed you know and so for about 45 minutes he's trying to help me out of bed I'm in my underwear you know like this is and you know every time he move me and so there was a point where he's holding my head off of the bed and we just start I start laughing cuz I'm like sitting here my buddy's like trying to help me out a bit in my underwear it felt kind of you know funny as like a sitcom or something yeah and we went to Vanderbilt and at that point I would have taken pay I'm like I got to have something yeah and the uh doctor there thought I was searching for drugs oh wow and he's like you know you're just a I'm like Oh my this is kind of funny actually because you know that's that's the opposite I almost would would do anything not to take this but this is how much how much pain pain that I'm in but um yeah I mean that's uh he's like nope he's like uh you know how many of these places have you been to I'm like man I haven't done a pain pill in seven8 years I don't know it's been a long time so it's just the opposite but I've heard that before you know you do have to be cognitive of it like to not go down that you know Rabbit Hole again um so but that that's amazing I mean at what point so you know you basically turned your life over to God yeah uh you know said he saw the water turn black yeah uh and that was the uh the realization that that's like your all the toxicity or whatever leaving your body addiction what was life like after that at what point did you meet your wife um yeah so and going back to your point it does suck after you've been abuser of these drugs because there is a time in place where you could really you man I wish I could take a muscle relaxer or on a plane and the turbulence is so bad like wish I could pop a Xanax right now like this is terrible um but you can't cuz you abused it um but yeah so after after that um after I was baptized and I was just like all right um I'm all in on fighting I'm all in with God and I just started Living different man and I had to leave old friends and I had to get new friends and just stay on a good track and you know after that I fought in LFA again and what what year is this by the way so time FR this is 2017 okay 2017 yep 2017 so then I fought in LFA first round knockout boom oh no second round knockout very vicious knockout though then they put me Main Event in Vil Colorado boom knockout then I was like I'm going to the UFC let's go Contender series came out now you got to go through Contender series and it was like the joke the maners always say one more finish one more finish one more finish and it was like nowadays it's so easy to get in the UFC I feel like compared to how it used to be right like used to be used like like now guys are like five and two and they're getting in the UFC like I was 10 and one when I got in the UFC and it was still a challenge yeah all right you got to go to the contender series that's fine um and I had met Joanie at a at a yoga Festival I was um I was driving back from camping with my dad after a fight and we were going to this yoga Festival my dad wanted to go to this crazy Rave and it was like a fork in the road do we go to this like Sonic Bloom it was called or this yoga festival and I'm like Dad I'm not I'm not doing stuff like I used to and I was like let's just go I'm down to go do some yoga we went to yoga and that's where I met my wife um she was at the same hotel and I was walking past her I'm like hey what's up I like I'm going to go do this class if you want to come and she showed up and that's how we met we started dating um and then I had Contender series went out there knocked the guy out first round with elbows boom vicious bounced his head off the ground um you know like four unanswered elbows was just on top of him and got a UFC contract tried to fight in Denver Colorado tried to fight Kevin Holland tried to fight all these guys no one would fight me because the elevation so I was just staying ready and I was really like pressing the UFC I was like I want to fight like I'm ready to make UFC money I'm ready to get the fight kit I'm ready to you know be a UFC fighter and uh it was November and they they called me on a Thursday said uh Cesar ferrera's opponent pulled out in Argentina you want to go out said yeah let's do it in Argentina yeah oh cool so I flew out on Saturday or on Sunday MH so it was 8 days notice yeah um flew out on Sunday jet lag she came out we had only been dating a little while and she was like yeah she's like I'll come out with you and I'm like cool let's go so we flew out there and um just had the best experience of a lifetime just close family and friends flew out um won the fight ended up hanging out with the UFC stayed up to like 6:00 in the morning morning with the UFC like every cuz it was just like so tight and itched it was one of those hotels where it's all a big circle and the bars in the middle so it was just like every I got to know everyone in the UFC it was super cool hang out with Mick and Sean and just like and just really meet the whole staff and really got became really cool with them right away MH so Cesar Ferrer was like 15 in the world beat him close decision a war somehow I had more cardio than him even though it was short notice um and then second fight I was supposed to fight Tom Brees in um London had all that legal battle my coach was like I can't accept the and finally Mick's like you know what screw it Ian I'm going to take a chance we were like chasing the lawyer down in tene and trying to get all this paperwork and Mick just called me he's like Ian I'm just going to take a chance book a flight let's go and I was like let's go showed up was supposed to fight Tom Breeze or the London boy and uh day of the fight I'm getting ready to go getting ready I just showered getting ready to hop on on the bus and Tom turned his phone off and or he said he was injured but I later found out he just turned his phone off and drove away so I think he had like but he had like mental issues and I mean everyone gets nervous so I I don't want to talk bad about him but and then I got a short notice fight to fight uh Antonio Carlos Jr um you know Jiu-Jitsu black belt World Champ fought him took me down after round and a half of him controlling me and trying to submit me he got tired and just beat him down uh won that fight he was ranked 10 in the world then I was ranked nine in the world um then I fought Derrick Brunson so my whole UFC career I just was thrown in with the Wolves looking back yeah maybe I could have fought Contender series guys and lower level guys and built my way up and then I fought Derrik Brunson lost a close decision fought Omari yed off and this is when I started having concussions to the point where I was like my coach was pressing me to come to the gym I couldn't come to the gym I hopped on a plane to Mexico and just went to a resort and laid on the beach by myself like like just cuz I had and then finally I came back my coach grabbed my face like just train and uh you know I lost close fight to omarov and I was like man I got to change this I can't get pushed like this so I had a thyroid issue a thyroid disorder I started putting on a lot of weight I had a really bad hypothyroidism so all of a sudden I used to weigh 205 and my weight Cuts weren't bad now I'm 220 225 and the weight cuts are horrendous yeah which isn't good for your brain either I not good for my brain um I felt lethargic all the time like bro I could pull over on the side of the road and just yeah and just like like I was that tired like the only time I would feel good is when I'd get my adrenaline going at practice then I would feel good so it was like I had some serious health issues I had this skin issue I kept getting stabed um over and over and this was actually this happened before I met her so this was right around Contender series time M and it would be like fuli staff antibiotic go to the doctor they prescribe me antibiotics yeah go away stomach wrecked next month boom again I probably did 20 rounds of antibiotics this um in one uh like summer sure and I had blood in my stool oh yeah up your stomach oh bro I was so I went and got a colonoscopy I woke up when they were done and the doctor goes it was from stress do a suppository that's it yeah from stress so I have blood in my stool I'm gaining weight like I'm like I don't feel right in the gym anymore my cardio's gone I'm a cardio machine that's what I pride myself on like I have that like like I I brawl and I make people I make fights ugly like I scrap then grapple then scrap and every I'm losing everything and I meet her and it's like our third date and I'm like or I'm like this is kind of like weird to tell you but like can your doctors help me and she's like what's going on like I was like um I have blood in my stool like it's pretty bad like and no one else cared like my coach and stuff and so they took me to the doctor got my blood work done found out I was anemic in my iron CU I was losing so much blood I had Hashimoto thyroid I hypothyroidism I had ulcerated colitis and I was all messed up so they totally changed my diet my supplements super high probiotics I started doing ozone treatments for my legs uh 10 passes after 10 passes how many 10 passes did you do probably like 15 20 cleared it up yeah yeah man it would I would have I would have a breakout before the fight go do a 10 pass and you'd almost see it drying up going away like the next day it would almost be gone wow and then I would go fight but the thing is I would have a herxheimer response and because it would just be killing all that crap I would just like for like two days I would just like oh you get sick I'd feel like sick Bro yeah ozone man it's like we were talking earlier but it is my favorite thing and um you know you will get her summer reactions like if you have covid and you do o ozone um like I do the ozone and I get the response I'm like ah I'm getting you know you feel a little sicker for a minute because you have the die off and you have your immune response yeah you know to that but um you know ozone's one of those things man people it's incredible there's um there's a couple doctors it's Dr Rollins uh Robbins and and Rollins I could be messing this up one's in New York one's in California but um they went to the sier Leon to treat Ebola patients yes and uh wild and they were healing them basically the government said get out yeah they kicked they end up kick him out I think they treated the president of Sierra Leon um and uh yeah let's see what these doctors uh names are uh well but I want see what the doctor's names are uh type in Sierra Leon ozone yeah ohola yeah Rowan there we go oh y Dr Rowan is one and uh that's who yeah and but there's let's find the other guy's name click on that Rowan one um and just hold on right there let me look at the arthor authors uh yeah so it's uh Dr Robert Rowan and Dr Howard Robbins they went from New York and California and went to sier Leon treated the E uh Ebola patients I believe they actually treated as I was saying the president of Sierra Leon and EV the health department uh the of the country came in and said you can't be here and my argument to like the mainstream scientists that say there's no evidence like these are two licensed medical doctors that are going to treat Ebola patients like they clearly have done enough research to think that this works because if not they're going to die if they get Ebola and um I mean it's a you know ozone is incredible I mean there was a study and this is kind of funny because as soon as covid happened first thing I thought was ozone therapy thought ozone would be the the best thing to treat covid yeah um I started translating some different languages uh and ozone uh for clinical trials to see if there are any clinical trials going on in different countries and I found one in Italy and uh there was a doctor from Italy was anesthesiologist so I sent him an email uh wow and U in Italian like you got translated on the transl thing and he wrote me back nicely kindly in English so you know I can speak English and um uh he was doing a clinical trial so I do a podcast with him and it's about his clinical trial that had uh he had 36 patients 35 were pre-icu one was in the ICU the 35 pre IU with covid didn't have to go to the ICU the one that was in the ICU got out of the ICU and um we have a great conversation about it weren't making any claims we're talking about his clinical trial and YouTube kicked me off um just for doing the podcast and I didn't even think this is like probably April or May of 2020 so this is right after you know it wasn't very far in and it was before they started Shadow Banning and been Shadow ban now for a long time but um you know ozone therapy like for something you're talking about it actually works good with anti itics like it's not just you know you can add antibiotics as well and they will work better um so uh I'm not surprised you know tin pass is super strong oh that's a That Rocks the body yeah yeah but and we we we bought a ozone machine that's how much we believe in it we brought it to Thailand with us and uh yeah I mean her doctor like he was the one telling us about all these studies and oh yeah um yeah it's it's incredible what it does and I actually the first experience I had with those I had this ringworm that would not go away like it like I put every single cream on it like it was the itchiest biggest nastiest ringworm I've ever had in my life and it would not go away and I went to this yoga thing in New York and this guy was all about ozone and he went bop bop bop bop like in my skin pushed air around it blew up like this big and then it came down gone like I'm talking like like four 4 hours like I watched this thing just gone did he inject inside the ring worm or was it around around it interesting interesting cause an immune that's that's awesome it was crazy there's a lot that I can do you can do cupping too so if you have like a sore or something that's not healing there's these cups that you can put on and put the ozone in and it'll it'll just get that one major area for staff infection you can cup it too and uh of course staff a lot of times is in deeper but I've had I've had friends who are Fighters that uh it basically you know two weeks out of a big fight staff infection in their calf and we ozone the hell out of it and and got him to fight and they won they won the three rounder nice so um yeah don't say their name because ozone is uh it's not usada approved it's not usada approved you can't you can't like use it on your skin I don't know my doctor I told him that he said he said what are they going to ban now deep breaths of air yeah3 like come on yeah yeah so it's but it is people have no idea and like my my cousin's a PA and we tell him about it he's like n that stuff's and I'm like dude you dude ozone I mean you know here we have now we're the largest manufacturers of mesenchimal stem cells in the world yes and over stem cells I would pick ozone I mean I say that publicly I don't care like this is I now it's different things help certain things but for overall health on a regular basis there's nothing better yeah than ozone you can do it you know uh I have a generator next to my bed in Nashville and next to my bed in uh Mexico um if you do it every other day you will never get sick and you can do it you know IV you can do the tin pass which is pumping 10 times you can do it extraoral which is going into a machine taking your blood out and then putting it back in your body that's a strong yeah yeah that's even that's even stronger and then um or but for home use you can do it rect and about 50% of the IV dose and for me I don't have to get stuck now every week I can just do it that way and I mean it freaks people out doing the IV yeah pushing looks yeah looks like air right but it uh it works incredibly so I'm a huge I'm a huge o ozone fan and uh that's cool that that it helps you I mean oh it heal me y when nothing could bro like they even took samples of it and they're like like only thing they could tell me was antibiotics and it's like and the thing was weird she never caught it and I sleep in the same bed as her no one ever caught it from me having it so it was something in my blood like it was something from being locked up I think it was something from mold or you know well we all have you know staff and stuff on our skin it's natural so like for instance like if uh you know for injections that's one that we have to clean the a but for stem cells for instance got clean the area really good our biggest fear uh or concern with the dis injections is getting um an infection in the disc to the skin cuz you can clean it perfectly and sometimes still there's we actually do a needle first that goes before the disc and then we put a needle inside the needle so it never touches the actual skin oh wow you know that's our uh they don't even do that in in the US but um that's how serious we take infections menitis or is that well in the US they don't take as many precautions as we take in Mexico for injecting disc so when you do a uh an epidural injection with cortisone for a disc they just go directly into your disc they clean it really good yeah but um they they're still going to go directly into your disc with the needle we don't do that we do the needle right and and we we do a needle in the skin and put it right before the disc and then we put a needle inside the needle so the needle that actually goes in your disc has never touched the skin just in case there's some staff that hasn't or uh you know any type of infection that yes isn't hasn't been cleaned off um CU you're going to get one in a thousand or so infections per you know for injections like that yeah so um we've had two out of we' we've had two infections in about three years and that's probably with I'm going to guess between 6 and 10,000 injections and uh we haven't had any infection since we started that new way of doing it too oh wow and you do that with the intal oh we do that with the um we do that with the disc injection so for her her disc okay but not the inal I had to check on the intal uh the reason I know this technique is because it's because we do like intal we only might do 20 a year so I haven't actually walked and watched the procedure like uh the disc injections we're doing so many couple every yeah every week yeah we do 15 patients average three discs so that's 45 a week MH of that one yeah you see a you see a lot of those yeah definitely so um but yeah man I mean that the the infections on the skin uh was probably just your immune system wasn't fighting it off for whatever reason yeah and uh yeah the ozone it's a great immune modulator uh it's really good at killing viruses it's pretty good at killing bacterias um and it's really good at just kind of resetting your immune system to go and and fight stuff off yep so um yeah it's good stuff man huge huge ozone fan how many times have you been back for have have you been to TJ for for stem cells um twice twice twice yeah okay and that's was uh did you do in eal both times yes I did okay cool and the and the second time too we did shoulders um wrist and uh intravenous nice how how's all that uh how's that going going for you yeah so it was kind of crazy when I did the first time down in Mexico I did the ineal and I did intravenous and you know it was it was crazy cuz this is when I had a bad thyroid I was I was hypo I was taking medication every single day I had been on medication for probably four five years before that um probably four yeah somewhere around there I'd been on medication for a while and I went down there and after I got the intal it was crazy because I did the intal and that night bro my head felt like it was going to explode like it was like because they told me when the stem cells hit damaged tissue you have an infl inflamatory response right that's right so obviously I had a lot of damage cells man and it was crazy it took me a while but I felt like I saw clear like think colors were more Vivid and once the pain went away I felt so much better and honestly I think I hindered it a little bit because I went back to training within like a month I should have gave it like five months but I was still like I need to fight I need to fight and uh with the intravenous all of the sudden I was on a fishing trip and my heart I just took my my thyroid medication I felt like my heart was going to explode it's having like heart palpitations and I'm like what is going on I feel weird so I went to my doctor and I was like I went to Joanie and uh her her business partner I was like let's get my blood work done so they took my blood work I flipped from hypo to hyper nice so something was going on so they told me stop taking your medication get rid of that immediately cuz I started with level thyroxine hated it m then I went to Nature throid like more of a natural one it was okay it sucked still and now I'm Hy bir so I feel different and uh I'm off medication so then we gave it it was probably another 8 months and I went back to you guys and then probably like a year year and a year and a halfish time frame from the first stem cell treatment got my blood work taken been off medication for about a year and a half leveled out awesome best best I've ever best I've had in probably seven years awesome man incredible yeah that is incredible incredible results man yeah we see weird stuff like that yeah like that wasn't expected you didn't expect that we didn't expect that for you yeah but it's pretty darn cool yeah well I mean you guys I knew the you know when you do it intravenous those stem cells are going to go points of inflamation I have a nodule here you know it's so they probably went there and over time especially if you're eating healthy and you're letting those stem cells survive well you're going to you're going to have those results man and it comes five six a year down the line and uh yeah and then obviously I went again and and you know I mean I was bad like I was to the point where I told you guys like I was stuttering I was forgetting where I was my sense of direction was gone um I would have days where I would just feel so foggy like and now just I would say the past 3 four months I've felt the best I've ever felt awesome yeah praise God because it was it was like wow like I was like am I going to be like this the rest of my life and like I don't declare it anymore like I'm Healed I declare that because um a lot of people with brain injuries you know they say they deal with it their whole life and yeah I might feel some days a little weird but who doesn't sure at least I tell myself that I I declare that I'm Healed you know I'm on Amazing regiment with Hive Health my wife's um business and and uh I'm doing peptides lots of peptides I'm a big believer in peptides and um yeah man I'm feeling the best I felt in so long and you know will I fight again potentially um it is a big risk because of everything I went through and killing it in crypto right now so it's kind of like man I and and I want to be a business uh you know I want to start a business I want to we're going to buy a ranch I want to start this treatment center um you know I want to I've seen so much of the revolving door where I want to find something where people come to it and they experience true change sure absolutely teach them the skills teach them how how to run a business teach them you know how to cope with their emotions train them MMA make them work A Hard Day's work on the ranch like let them really understand what A Hard Day's Work is and and and uh of course you know show them you know how how how God can heal them from their addictions and you know I believe it can create and train them MMA and I believe it could create Champions I believe it can really change people's lives because I see what these treatment centers doing I see what the prisons are doing and we can do better and I can do better well I mean you know and for you man I mean like you're at a point where and this is just from the outside I'm not saying this is what to do this is just my we're talking here but if you don't have to fight for money yeah and you are getting you know you have brain injury what are you fighting for yeah you know especially you got a great wife you've got you know you're you have a vision of how to help other people which you know that's to me there's nothing cooler doing than that I understand what it's like to want to keep fighting I I still want to have a fight like I totally get it by the way I haven't fought in over 20 years yeah I know but I still do I'm still like maybe I'm I'm 42 I could do like come on man come on but um you know with the brain injury and you got your feeling so good now and you know it's like uh you know and you're making money with crypto like what what is the driver be behind that where where do you see yourself right now with that um it's just like I truly felt like I felt like uh I didn't accomplish what I set out for you know I won a World title in LFA but I it was always the UFC belt mhm and it just I felt like it was just like rug pulled from me and it was like it was very hard to come to concept and really questioning what what God's plan was for it because you know these guys I'm beating up in the gym they're Main Events now they're you know I was right there talent wise like skill-wise like especially if I had my thyroid and sure and everything on point like like I was inches from beating these guys like like one move and and and guys I was beating in practice are now doing so well and winning world titles which I'm happy for but I'm just like man like I know I could have you know like accomplish that so that's that's the only thing I like to finish when I start got it and I felt God was called me to be a World Champ and you know I could have used that platform and you know I've had all these movie opportunities about my life I've had a I've had a deal in my email for the past couple years but I want it to be um I don't want to just sign my life rights over for a couple thousand bucks of course and have them just run with it I want to be in control and I want to do it the right way because I don't want it to glorify the bad stuff I want to show the Redemption side because we all know look at this country this country needs Redemption a lot of people need Redemption we need a great Redemption Story and there's nothing like it and I think a movie like that a story like that in the public I think could really you know help a lot of people's lives and definitely entertain people well absolutely I mean there's it's it's like the the ultimate Heroes Journey you know where you've been through uh hell and you know found your faith came back and are doing you know doing good things making a difference being a good a good person yeah you know and it is I think it's a it's the ultimate Redemption story you know you've uh you've overcome a lot most people would be dead now or complete junkies and um you know you've got something in you that uh doesn't you know says no I'm I'm better than that you've found an amazing wife you've got the relationship with God and so I mean that's what living ultimately is is really about yeah and so um you know but that's why I wanted to have you on the podcast I'm like we got to tell tell your story to our audience and um you know more and more people definitely need to hear it and um I thing is awesome man I'm I'm inspired just hearing you so yeah awesome man well I appreciate you having me on and you know you're definitely you you're doing such great things with uh your treatment center and you know the stem cells and I don't know if you guys are still involved with the the cancer treatment oh yeah stuff but like that was that really touched me man like I got to go share my testimony up there but I walked away with more because I'm over here complaining about my life oh why can't I fight I got a concussion and these people are fighting for their lives literally and that was like wow so um you know it's amazing your success but what also you're doing to help people survive and that program is it was really cool man oh thanks man yeah the cancer part we're actually with the renovation uh we we open that back around July okay and we've built uh the best the best lab in the world for solid tumor cancers so next Generation sequencing Optical genome mapping proteomics digital pathology um the largest tumor panel right now in the United States is about 630 genes ours is going to be 1,20 wow almost double the largest you can get in America plus all the other stuff that we're doing with the testing and um so uh it's about it's going to be it's going to be awesome when we're done but uh the the stem cells have been a big blessing cuz it's uh funded all the cancer research and all the Big Dreams of how do we how do we create the best diagnostic facility in the world for solid tumor Cancers and this is like you God just lay this one out like here you go we're going to make this stem cell thing really big for you yeah um and it's going to you know here's your answer yeah it wasn't that the the story of how you guys started it when was it your parents that yeah my mom my mom yeah we didn't have any options in the United States for her ra and um uh I told you the Ia gain story and how and I said well what else is out there if this uh isn't available in the in the United States but can help people what else is in another country so uh my mom had failed all standard of care she broke her back on a short fall um because of the medications she got multiple staff infections because it was suppressing her immune system she got tuberculosis so she was and um so it's and the ra had started to attack her organs um and so I'd read a study on something called col's toxins for rhe arthritis and uh it was from 1923 oh wow and so I was like that makes sense though so there was a hospital in Mexico that had it but it wasn't available anywhere else in the world and so uh we went to f look at this Hospital and it had closed 2 years before so Scotty and Dedrick and I we found the original owner bought the hospital from him my mom came in in a wheelchair uh we hirb back the original staff my mom came in a wheelchair and left three weeks later walking and she's been in remission now for almost 9 years wow so that was the Catalyst behind it all that's incredible it's cool man it's a blessing and so yeah and then MMA is what's real and what's not real like so we had a front row seat to you know people say there's like a conspiracy for cancer cure like I don't believe believe it because like literally we've tried everything you can think of like there is nothing that like your research got too ar oh yeah big so from the alternative side though to the you know next level science side we're we're working on and that's with the new buildout with our Labs that we're building we're going to be able to do what's called car T cells tumor infiltrating lyes like the the immunotherapy treatments that are in clinical trial right now that match genetics and stuff like that that's you know that's what we're going to be able to do in this next iteration of of of the hospital but um yeah I mean that's that's what it is I mean it's uh you know we have tried everything though and you know I do I also know that you know some things do work not every time though I don't know of a cure for cancer because cancer is an a disease and you can treat two people with the same cancer uh the same same way and one person will respond the next person will and you're like what's going on yeah so um it's pretty complicated but you know it's been overall it's been an awesome Journey yeah and we're almost nine years in August wow and uh you know it's been it's wild to look back now yeah no doubt man it's really cool thank you for that and you know um I think uh you know your story is uh you know in many ways a lot more inspirational than anything I it's it's different but but it's it's just it is this hero's journey I guess we both share the hero's journey um but it's like it's one that the world needs to hear and yeah just keep doing what you're doing man I remember we're at uh I see you in Miami last week or two weeks ago week and a half ago or so yeah and uh I was like oh hey can I buy you a drink like no I don't drink oh sorry about that yeah but um you know and all of the your story like hit me I remember like oh oh oh oh oh I had these oh moments of that yeah and um you know it's cool man I I think there's a lot of addicts right out there right now in the United States it's getting worse and worse and yeah you know it's just it's it's wild times as you said the United States the country needs healing you know we need Redemption yes we do and uh you know to get out there and tell your story and one day uh it wouldn't surprise me if everybody knew it man yeah absolutely man that's my goal man we're going to start a podcast just sharing testimonies and that's going to kind of be the Catalyst for the treatment center it's all going to connect in and eventually when the treatment center is going we're going to have people share their story on the podcast and it'll be kind of a uh you know a revolving door in a good way where it's it's you know they're going to hear a testimony and they're going to feel hope and then they're going to go to this treatment center and then they're going to become the testimony so that's what God's been calling me to do and me and my buddy who is a complete junkie shooting up sold his car thought he was going to die completely changed his life around we're going on a mission trip to Panama um we're going to witness we're going to fish and then um we're going to go over our game plan for this um this ranch we're going to do awesome man yeah well anything that uh you know I can do or Scotty and drick our team can do to help just let us know we love what you're doing man awesome man appreciate it for on the podcast thank you thank you guys appreciate it I'm not going to jail I took my phone dropped it in water I bought myself a ticket from JFK to Amsterdam so I was now a fugitive On The Run 20 years old parents are split up struggling I need to make some money man we were getting kilos of coke and swallowing a kilo flying back home we were hanging out with these chicks for a couple months ended up one of them set us up boom smashed in the front smashed in the back DEA oh wow jumped on us freaking pistol to my temple I was in maximum security in rer Island oh man he pulls this nasty looking shank out bro and he's doing this and I'm like dude no bro please man boom she just caught him right on the chin dude I went in that water it looked clear when I walked out it looked black to me and I felt God say that was your addiction and that was your sin dead and a year later I have met my beautiful wife married her we bought a house together I broke into the UFC I broke into the top 10 and I was a taxpaying citizen for the first time in my life Ian hinish welcome to the podcast yeah thanks that I appreciate it um you know it's cool to run into you in Miami at the fights and uh yeah excited to talk about my testimony about my experience at sell your performances to we'll talk about crypto and conspiracies whatever you want all the things all the things which which conspiracies should we talk about oh gosh you mean the ones that haven't came true yet or the ones that already have came true let's do one of each all right right um well the ones that have came true let me think of that why don't you start I'll think of one yeah ones that have come true let's see what what oh here we go here we go the the vaccine oh yeah heart problems autism y there's that on on the vaccine front there's the Wuhan Lab at first it came from like a bat and a monkey mating or something like that now was like you know made in the lab made in the lab y cloth masks work and of course now that's that's obviously when you sit down at the restaurant the virus is De or is is activated but when you stand up it deactivates yeah or sorry the other way around but it was just crazy right you're in a restaurant you're eating you got to put the mask on to go to the bathroom yeah you got to put the mask on go to the bathroom it makes sense and if you don't do it you're a bad person because you just want to kill people you want to you want to kill your grandma so um yeah man I mean we're in we're in some crazy times for sure and you know it's an election year the good thing is it's in a bull market so that's right you think we're in a bull already yeah okay yeah I a lot of people will judge it differently but the way I look at it is you know once we hit that 155 range area um we bottom out in 2020 was it 20202 22 Yeah 2022 um I would say from that point on is kind of starting of a bull market and especially when you're in the meme coin space you're getting so many little many altcoin seasons so it's just like you're making money but a lot of people will say you know the 200 we moving average has to cross the 300 week and and there's different indicators but for me price go up bull market yeah yeah yeah I mean I haven't gotten to the memes and and we'll get into some of that but you I've been primarily Bitcoin ethereum I mean know I'm I'm into I think I've got some pulse was it pulse X pulse chain yeah uh but what's uh pulse X pulse X is one of their coins yeah is that the one where you had to burn some to get in didn't you have to like put money and burn it um well they did a pulse chain sacrifice and then they did the pulse X sacrifice later and PSE X most people miss the pulse chain pulse X is the deck which is the swap for it that's what I did yeah so you're you're good I I would swap it for pulse chain um you're pretty you're up because you got a Bonus but not by much okay so that the interesting thing about pulse chain is that usually pumps when everything is kind of over like after Bitcoin and ethereum top out and start to go down then you're going to see a big pump from po chain because Richard Hart likes to all the attention to be on his coins he's kind of a glory type guy so that's that's kind of what we're expecting and he plays the market he has an OA wallet which is original origin wallet basically the sacrifice for everyone set the money he put a he put millions of dollars in ethereum so I think he's going to ride that up mhm he's going to use it to buy his coin that boy boy yeah Richard Hart you know uh some different thoughts about him when one first I do think he's a genius I mean the guy is really really smart smart and um you know so people can talk bad about him and for those that don't know he started hex yeah um and it became a you know multi-billion dollar uh coin market cap yep 10,000x yeah exactly and um uh really really great ideas but then he took some heat right he uh you know he was he was really out there with his marketing you know a little uh you know a big show off and then he took some heat from the federal government so yeah what's going on with with Richard Hart right now yes so Richard Hart um he's the Donald Trump of crypto so that's how I like to look at it you know a lot of people will look up to him so crazy I you know I obviously I'm not going to worship a man and and I I think he's a smart and I think his products are amazing because it is a fully decentralized layer one blockchain the most decentralized blockchain in all of crypto and I 100% believe that and which is freedom it's freedom of speech it's uh no one can shut it down like the websites like I don't I'm not too technical with it but like it's not on the HTT hhtt uh P website it's on a different um browser that can't be stopped in any way or form so don't quote me on that but either way it's fully decentralized he came under heat from the SEC with hex calling it a security um he's hired like the most legit team and if you actually look at the statistics 98% of all lawsuits from the SEC end in a settlement 98% so it's kind of a thing where you got to pay to play and um he's kind of an everyone's face and he rubs it in that he's a he's a you know he's a billionaire Bitcoin billionaire um and and but he's a smart guy and I think his products are good I think he'll do a lot of x's and I have a big uh I have a big of part part of my portfolio in pulse chain and a little bit in HEX and Richard Hart products yeah yeah it's it's basically ethereum it's a fork of ethereum Cheaper fees it's faster you get a copy of all your ERC 20s if you held that on to centralized exch or wallet and um it's it's a better version of ethereum yeah no he's done done a a a great job and you know all the promo aside if you listen to what he said says he's a really smart guy yes and uh I I like him actually I like him I I've I've learned a lot from from watching his videos popping on a podcast when when uh he's or when I was in the car I don't know if he does them anymore but this is you know back the last uh bull run my buddy uh Matt he put like 5,000 in and got over a million return crush it with hex dude so that's what's so cool man you see these stories and like you know I mean you're obviously a very successful entrepreneur you know putting your money in Bitcoin and ethereum is such a good wealth preserver you talked about we talked about at the fights you're you're putting money in there and you're putting money in your bank and the money you're putting in crypto even on the dips and in the bare Market you're seeing an exponential uh increase over time and it just shows it's actually beating inflation doing that way and it's a wealth preserver and it's honestly I'm sure you have it on a cold wallet um a ledger and it's you know you're basically being your own bank and then on the other side like someone like me trying to come up in the game I'm looking for the next Shu I'm looking for the next Dogecoin cuz I'm trying to put in I'm not trying to bet the farm to buy the farm I'm putting in a couple thousand bucks CU even my partner he's a shuu millionaire from $1,000 oh nice you know and I'm talking you know eight figures he cashed out so you know for for someone like me I'm looking to find the next coin before it's on centralizes changes buying um the number one block or the number one mem coin on Stacks which is the new Layer Two of Bitcoin now they have Bitcoin as meme coins mhm um all these different altcoins so I'm looking for that I have a lot of money in crypto and you know after the bull market I'll take my profit and then I'll be buying ethereum and Bitcoin on the lows and that'll be my wealth preserver yeah yeah yeah that's uh that's what I did the last oh I don't know two years was just dollar cost average plus we took uh payment in Bitcoin and ethereum which is about 3% of our Revenue 3 to 5% and so we did pretty good on that and I think our average the last two years is about 24,000 uh a Bitcoin so um and uh it's awesome I mean I I wish that coinbase had a credit card that you could just use directly out of your Bitcoin or a check card yep because I would just keep all my cash uh you know everything on Cold Storage but you know my monthly payments and stuff MH on on my coin base because I mean I trust that much more than I trust the dollar yeah absolutely and and that's that's kind of a crazy thing a lot of people don't know and we'll go we'll go even further back in my testimony later in my story but um you know when I was injured um I got a bad concussion after my fight with um Alo medov that guy he's ranked like number five now and when I fought him I got uh SW he did a switch knee when I was throwing an overhand caught me right in the eye um rocked me good gave me like nine stitches um but I had no symptoms after that I felt fine there's something about the adrenaline when you fight that protects your brain protects your body and I felt fine but I went back to training 3 weeks after that and I was sparring like nine rounds like I shouldn't have been sparring so much it was I should have been like hey man first week first week back you know and I threw a lazy head or I threw a lazy body kick and it just kind of got blocked and spun back and um one of my teammates threw a head kick at the same time boom caught me sat me down went home light sensitivity anxiety nauseous you know every concussion symptom in the book and I was like and it's just one of those things where you have to just go home lay down turn the lights off and just sit there and just like this sucks I got to get through this um about 3 weeks in I was like you know usually start to feel better after 3 weeks 2 3 weeks and you know I felt a little bit better but I was pushing it going back to the gym I'm just going to roll just going to drill and it's something about when you have an injury and you go to the gym it just gets hit when you try to protect it I don't know why cuz you're focused on it or something I'm drilling with my buddy and someone lands into me I'm not even going live but someone going live Falls in me cracks my head oh man and so just stupid stuff like this happened for a couple months and I was like and I was like dude this is just getting worse and worse and I was like and I was like you got to go to the gym you have a fight coming up you need to pay your bills like all these thoughts are going in my head and when I wouldn't train it was that voice inside of me like oh you're you're being a [ __ ] bro like come on get back in there you know just that that voice that we have and I had the I had I booked a fight with Sam alvie you know nothing to take away from Sam's career but I was like you know this is a good fight for me this is a fight where I get a highlight real back in the winning column and back on the trail I was you know I was ranked number nine in the world um I probably dropped down to top 15 at that time and and then um I H I just kept having these symptoms man and finally I had to say to a point I said I am not going to the gym like that was a big decision because tough cuz I was going to the gym and I was sit in the car with anxiety my body was so afraid to get hit in the head again yeah I would sit there for like 30 minutes and then leave and I started like almost like the the the with my words sometimes I'll be driving I'll be like where am I like I have no idea what state I'm in or nothing and like that stuff's scary anxiety would spike through the roof and I was like man I have a serious problem I have to stop going to the gym I have to get well who cares about fighting at this point Y and then um you know I said what can I do and I heard about you guys and I reached out um Eric Anders had went down and got something done with his neck and I knew you guys did it for concussions in the brain stem so I called I got my whole di uh you know I went through the whole deal with the doctor told him all my symptoms came back got a quote and you know it was it was more money than I could afford I could afford at the time but it would it would really make me strapped after that so I was like I don't even know if this will for for sure work cuz I was just you know at the time I was like can I really afford this and that's when Marshall Rogan knew some meme coin of Joe Rogan's dog came out started paying all these Fighters and I'm looking on Twitter I'm like wow I jump jumped on a Twitter space they they invited me up cuz I was a UFC fighter and they're like hey man what's going on in your career and I just spilled the beans man I just told him everything I was like this is what happened and I had this fight with Sam Alvi and I had to pull out and I and I trained for this camp and you know I spent $10,000 and now we only get paid when we fight and just told them the whole deal about stem cells they hit me up after they said hey and jump on a telegram call they're like we're going to pay for your stem cells that's awesome and I was like yeah sure man you know I didn't believe it sure here's my wallet boom I looked at my phone I was getting oil change at Toyota I never forget I just hit my knees I was like oh my God yeah I called Scott and Scott called you and he said yeah we take payment in ethereum yeah click of a button boom paid for I'm going to Tiana to get stem cells and I was like this crypto stuff is legit yes so that was kind of the thing that got me hooked into crypto so you were a big part of my journey into crypto whether and you didn't know it but um I just saw that and I was part of AMC gme and I saw how quick people were making money I made like 50 Grand I thought that was insane um but I realized stocks don't do what crypto does so I fully turned from that point on and I was literally in your facility and Cha soning got on a Twitter space and talked about this coin bro and he was like Money Follows attention and this coin's got all the attention the coin did a 10x on the space chill gave the best shill you ever heard and I was mind blown man and um I had a full partnership with this coin and you know it wasn't a scam thank God and um it helped a lot of Fighters man it was cool really cool times yeah what's been your experience uh you know kind of ever since since you've been um you know kind of in the crypto space uh like what's your approach to getting in on specific coins um so now what I do is you know you try to find there's so many everyone's multi-chain now you know you got people on salon there's a full bull market going on in salana um avac people are making tons of money over there ethereum is kind of more dead than it's ever been I I believe in crypto everyone has their turn M you know you want to try to catch a few turns if you're lucky but you have to hope that you're going to have your turning crypto so what I do is I try to find up and coming blockchains like Stacks is a big one just because of the whole Bitcoin narrative with the ETFs it's a layer two on bitcoin or it's a layer two on bitcoin but it's crazy it takes like 30 to minutes to an hour to do one transaction so they're doing an upgrade coming up in a couple weeks so if that upgrade goes well could be very bullish I'm on a coin there called Welsh it's the top you were trying to get that generational Welsh uh it's a corgi it's a little dog um so I'm just trying to find top meme coins on different blockchains H's chain is Teddy Bear Richard Hart streams in kind of a room like this and he's got a Louis Vuitton teddy bear up there MH so that's that's kind of the meme of that um yeah you know you got Pepe for ethereum you got dog with hat for salana so you try to find these coins that people aren't talking about yet on blockchains that are going to be successful find the number one meme coin and invest in a few of them that you believe and like I said man this is literally putting 500 to a couple thousand bucks in this yeah it's a lottery ticket to be at the end of the day but man if you if you don't hit on nine of them but you hit on 10 right it's paying for that you're you're hitting big well there there's a good chance too that's like if you know what the top meme coin's coming out it makes sense that you know you're going to hit a lick so you have you know for those who don't know a lot about crypto uh you know salana would be uh an operating system basically ethereum is an operating system y um and you know those are the memes that you were talking about specifically what was the one on Solano uh dog with hat dog with hat that's hilarious um yeah so that's the mean it has a chance of ripping and it probably will actually probably uh Ian has it already started billion Mark God it did a and and this is one month it did this um you also have Myro which is the developer of salon's dog okay Myro so that was the first one that really I think that's like two or three billion doll market cap Pepe is at like $4 billion market cap and these things have already ripped you know pretty much yeah right I mean that's what people hit me up now oh should I buy them like like non coiners and I'm like dude you are exit liquidity do not buy that coin because it's true man I mean something does you don't have much people are in profit like even if you got in at at 5 10 mil market cap there's people that got in under 1 mil market cap and now it's at billions of market cap and they have multi they have millions of and they're just scaling Out Cashing Out Cashing Out so exactly you're trying to find that type of coin you got to have a narrative um which is hey it's the developer's dog or it's dog it's cat season you're trying to follow the meta you got to have good developers you got to grow a strong Community with good branding and then you got to have a bunch of marketers on it um pushing it that's awesome so well yeah I'm gonna I'm G to try to get on some memes yeah we're going to get you in some good ones this one that full Market yeah that'll be good I love my Bitcoin and ethereum and I've got some salana and ICP as well but um you know in the past the last bull I was doing a lot of different things and um you know but without you know without the best strategy now that I've spent 2 years just studying and you know the plan with ethereum and Bitcoin uh dollar cost averaging has worked very very well now it's like now you can understand the cycle once you've been through you're like oh this is what's going to happen and you know if you really study it so um I'm looking forward to it man yeah it's going to be fun man yeah it's a fouryear cycle everyone will say it's over when it's the Market it's just it's just so cyclical and you realize that's kind of with politics and you realize the world is and if you it's honestly a game and if you know how to play it you will win and make a lot of money and you know right now they have all these pre-sales going on like this coin $6 million in pre-sales it went to 1.8 billion in one day mhm so it just it's just crazy um but then there's also pre-sales they're raising 5 million and they just scammed there's so many scams man this is probably it's becoming a tough Market because regulation is coming and I believe this is the last Wild West Bull Run that we got going so I'm trying to capitalize and and move on with my life I'm going to be more in the background your style dollar cost averaging and Bitcoin and ethereum and and and moving on because it is stressful being in this space and it's just you get scammed all the time and it's just part of the game and then people think it's you and so it it's it's coming to an end but we're going to capitalize on good man just let it rip just go around and then you can you can chill with the Bitcoin and ethereum in the future just chill just sit back like you're doing and just dollar cost average I just watch your bank account I love it I love that man I don't ever watch it until it's going up and then I'll get a text from my mom because my mom knows she's like oh my gosh you know it's doing this and I look I'm like you know yes uh so it's been a lot of fun but when it's not I don't even worry about it like it's not to me it's you know I I don't look at that count as in oh I've got to you know it's it's just like this extra longterm big project but it's you know I don't worry day to day month to month even no year to year I wasn't worried about it last year I was actually wanting it to go down more I thought it was going to hit like 11,000 so I was like oh man at 12,000 I'm going to you know put a a big purchase in and yeah never got that low so yeah I know I know you celebrate when it goes down actually are you um yeah I mean when it goes down there's always opportunity yeah it's just so psychological everyone cries and the markets will play with your emotions you have to go opposite you buy the fear and you sell the greed y exactly and most people can't do that they can't separate their emotions from it yeah well um hopefully like this this little bull we're GNA we're going to hit some rips with it because it's it's a lot of fun to watch too once you get it and uh I don't get emotional on it I just I just enjoy it I love like looking at it understanding what it's going to you know what it's going to do for society in the future what the blockchain is going to do for society what Bitcoin I look at Bitcoin as Freedom yeah uh you know with all the stuff that's going on with the banks and politics you know Bitcoin is almost my my way out y of uh if you know sh can hit the fan but I got my Bitcoin and I'm good yeah you know that's kind how I look at it so yeah exactly man it is it is a is a way to I mean it sucks now because now institutions are trying to buy like 10 15 20% of all Supply and they will manipulate it they will control control it but at the end of the day you got your Bitcoin and it's going to be really hard to own one Bitcoin I know and I think like they say like 1% of the entire world or like less than 1% of the entire world owns one Bitcoin so it's it's going to be very exclusive to get in that club well you think about all the all the millionaires on the planet right now and there's there's not enough Bitcoin for every millionaire to have one no you know I mean that's just uh one way to look at it the Sovereign wealth funds haven't uh invested yet when they do you're going to see it go crazy I would be more surprised in 10 years if Bitcoin was at a 100,000 than if it were at a million I would expect it to be at a million uh in 10 years so I mean that's uh yes I'm bullish but you know if you understand the markets and you see how they've operated in the past um it does just make it Mak sense why that's more likely than even 100,000 yeah yeah absolutely I mean we could I my my predictions for this bull market I think we're going to hit anywhere from 120 to 150 nice conservatively um but once it hits around the 100 I'll be starting to take profits on some things just because yeah I mean it you never know another scenario that could play out is it just be a extremely fast bull market not go into 2025 Skyrocket up and then dump down and then they blame the Bitcoin Miners and Usher in all this regulation because Mom and and dads got wrecked mortgaging their house and buying it yeah they're doing commercials and stuff on it so you got to watch out because whatever the herd thinks it's usually going to be something different so just have a game plan if you're in crypto um if it's a short Bitcoin cycle have a bearish plan where you win and have a bullish plan where if it goes to 500k or a million you still have enough where you're like I won you still got some yes yeah probably let you know probably gosh 25% over 250,000 a Bitcoin ride do you know that's about where where my head is but uh we'll start doing kind of dollar cost averaging out yeah as it's going up yep and and soon you and I mean you'll be able to buy real estate with your Bitcoin and stuff I think that's a very good leverage absolutely you buy real estate but you can also if you need a cash out you know uh you know you can you can pull your uh liquidity out oh yeah so uh he clicks of a button I know it's super super easy right your bank yeah a lot of people don't you know they don't realize how it is going to you know change the future how Bitcoin is digital gold y I mean the gold market has about A1 trillion doll or so market cap yeah um you know bitcoin's at 1.3 trillion is right now um so I mean that's it's still at 11x away from gold flipping gold and uh I think we have a chance of doing it this cycle it like I'm bullish man I'm like 6 650k of Bitcoin uh would would would be the price yeah yeah that would be insane it wouldn't shock me I I would be more surprised if it were at 100,000 uh in 18 months than 650,000 but yeah yeah I'm kind of somewhere in the middle but you have a plan Bitcoin to the Moon baby have a plan Bitcoin in the moon all crypto send it all all meme coin cuz there will be an altcoin season when you look at the bit Bitcoin chart when that thing goes down that means money is Flowing from Bitcoin into altcoins and there will be about a TW Monon cycle where you could throw a dart at anything and get a 10x yeah there will be things are going to pop off so it's going to be fun we should start our own meme coin what do we do I I wouldn't start one personally just because I'm a marketer and um there's a lot of baggage that comes with that I see yeah I'm just talking out of my ass right now but yeah but if you know a guy I could I don't actually I'm like we should do a freaking meme coin a a BTC 2m yeah right Bitcoin to the Moon yeah there you go no I love it um well man he flew in from Florida thanks so much uh you and your wife really appreciate y'all coming in yeah we appreciate you man um spending some time here in Nashville yes um you your story is one of my favorites and we did a podcast a couple years ago with Scotty yeah and uh I was just shocked to hear it you know I was like I didn't expect it yeah and I'm like wait what and and now I'm like oh it would be amazing to interview you again and just kind of I am knowing what to expect but get to dig in you know even more we are more of a time limit there as well um so your story is one of the most inspirational I think there's going to be a movie on it one day I think that uh when the masses really hear it it's it's almost unbelievable but it can be verified and it's true so yeah uh pretty wild um you know today it's 2024 how old are you I'm 35 you're 35 uh Christian man um turned your life around but just you know how many years ago did you uh get back to the US and go to Rikers for instance yeah so 2014 um Valentine's Day so I just hit my 10- year anniversary yeah so 10 years you know of turning your life back around or or give or take but you know 10 years and 20 years ago it was a lot different and 15 years ago it was a lot different yes 13 years ago you're in a prison somewhere in Europe if I'm my timing is about right yep um so truly incredible story that I think can make a big difference in a lot of people's lives yeah uh if they hear it uh talk a little bit about you know people know you as an MMA fighter and you're doing your crypto stuff now talk about previously uh where you were you know 20 years ago or so or maybe your childhood going into how you got into a little bit of trouble yeah um yeah I'll just kind of give you obviously we could be here all day talking about the whole testimony but um I was born in Denver Colorado and you know pretty young age like 11 moved to Parker was kind of like Southeast Denver and uh you know very talented in sports and just very active and my dad got into wrestling and um you know I I started wrestling late compared to you know how you see most people start when they're four or five six8 I started at 11 years old and just was decided to kind of put down everything else said wow I really want to pursue this wrestling I really like it but I just continued to get in trouble in high school um you know just very active kid very hyper never could sit still the doctors would say add and my parents got to a point and back in the day they would just say we'll take him to the doctor see if something's wrong with him cuz it was like habitual Troublemaker in trouble all the time so they took me to a doctor a traditional doctor oh yeah he's got ADD ADHD and we're going to give him atal well I come from a long line of addiction U my father my uncles my cousins still struggling with addiction to this day and so they gave me out roll and I was instantly hooked you know I was taking it in a small dose and I felt I was like wow it feels good and I kept telling I don't feel it I don't feel it until they maxed out the dose on me so I was taking ader Ral and that turned into drinking and then that turned into smoking weed and ended up doing cocaine very young age ecstasy all the things I could get my hands on how old were you when you were doing the cocaine when you started doing cocaine and ecstasy like 15 16 years old and you know I mean that's a young age to do that kind of drug and so I'm doing all these um hard drugs at a very young age my junior year I'm driving home from a party drank a bottle of Southern Comfort sniff some lines seeing double I used to do this trick where I leaned to the left and Clos one eye to see the line so I wouldn't see double fell asleep behind the wheel drove off the road over a curb missed a tree by a foot and a Sign by a couple inches and for me this was a big wakeup call and one of many times God had you know spared my life after that I was I I didn't get in trouble cuz I just got out and ran I woke up and my foot was still on the gas my wheels are spinning so I woke up and I ran home miles home and didn't get in trouble but my parents were like yo this he's going to kill someone he's going to kill himself and so they called the this rehab it was called turn about Ranch so yeah so I got um sent to this place called turnabout Ranch and this kind of is inspiring me because I saw the benefits that I had and I saw some things I could actually uh do better because you know it really was an eyeopener so I came home from a party one night my mom was being all weird like hey you going to come home tonight and I'm like yeah and basically these two big football players tied me up threw me in the back of a van drove me to Utah put me in a circle of rocks said take your shoes off had to start fires with a bow drill sleep on a wood plank they gave me a horse I mean it was a good life experience I ended up marrying a ranch girl and uh that was kind of my experience into the ranch life cuz I lived it for 3 to four months I came back from this even in all the time and all the partying I was doing I was a two-time state champ I took second my uh freshman year I was took second at Iron Man Tournament of Champions I was an All-American and freestyle and Greco so the problem was too because after that night that I fell asleep behind the wheel I had a wrestling tournament and I showed up hammered drunk mud all over me somehow made weight didn't even change clothes from the night before and ended up winning the tournament my dad hated that because it was like affirming to me that I could party and still win right so After High School um or going into my senior year I just was a habitual offender I got expelled from high school um so I was pretty lost very lost as a kid and just trying to figure out what to do continued to train ended up going to senior Nationals took fourth in the country was getting sworn by college Scouts um got a full ride scholarship offer to Boston University I mean I was getting letters from Stamford Harvard Yale handwritten letters and then they saw I was expelled and they like seea right so I ended up going to a junior college in northern Idaho first day there walking down the street hammered drunk get stopped by a cop on a bike writes me a ticket for littering I rip it up throw it in his face then writes or no sorry writes me a ticket for drinking I rip up the ticket throw it in his face then he writes me a ticket for littering then I run get caught spit on the car get um four charges littering drinking underage evading arrest and um disturbing the peace so just kind of show you the state I was in man I was just drunk were you mad yeah very angry what were you mad about you think I don't know just had some demons in me man the spirit of addiction was just controlling my life and um you know maybe there was something inside me that hated it you know because I knew I had potential I knew I had a big calling on my life and I knew I was just wasting it m um there was something always about it though I would always watch Mike Tyson's Knockouts I would always watch ufc1 like videos like it was something about fighting that was in my heart where I was like wow I could do this I could do this I'm going to go train I'm I'm going to go train I would maybe go once or twice to a random MMA gym but I was partying till 4:00 a.m. at night almost every night so it was no consistency um so after school I was broke I was you know didn't know what the heck I was going to do with my life um I got this full ride scholarship to northern Idaho even though I was messing up and I got all these charges I flew out there um went to school for a couple months drank away all the money I mean they paid for my books my housing um my college like everything all I had to do was wrestle and they it was just another opportunity I blew and in this time it was 2008 my parents had just got divorced it was the housing market crash my parents had put on a half a million dollar addition on the house sold both of their rentals to do it and then the housing market crashed and they couldn't even sell their house for 300K it's now worth 1.5 million and so they basically lost everything MH so I was back in Denver after I got just ruined my college opportunity and I had Petty warrants for my arrest and this girl hit me up that I used to date in in high school and she said come out to Canada to Vancouver you can be my prom date I'll fly you out I like let's go so I went out there ended up falling in love with Vancouver such a beautiful city and I put in my resume which had like my wrestling accomplishments on Craigslist cuz I was like I want to live here and some random guy or like company hit me up and they're like all right meet me downtown so I'm like walking downtown big high-rise building I step into this place have you ever seen the movie boiling room uh yeah I think with Ben afflick and he does that whole so it was like that Spiel or it was like Wolf of Wall Street Spiel and it was selling fixed rate contracts for natural gas we were locking them in at a higher rate because gas is going to go up and we were saving the world this guy had convinced man so I got this job doing door too door sales I'm making two to four grand a week it was very valuable because if you don't know about door to-door sales or even sales it's such an important asset like the the skills that you learn are incredible so I doing this for a while I knock on this chick's door they open the door five chicks in there oh he's cute and they pull me in I sign them all up and then this girl's like she just broke up with her boyfriend you need to take her home and this chick was crying ended up like dancing drinking uh taking her home to her house we're sitting there drinking a bottle of wine pound on her door boom boom boom boom I'm like ah what's going on so she runs and it's like a sliding glass door cuz she lived in like a duplex and she was upstairs she opened the curtain it was her ex-husband oh he had been blowing her up all night and she was um obviously of ignoring him so he showed up so then he saw me and started going crazy like I'll kill you you baah B and so I come to the door I'm like you want me to go out there you want me to go out there he's like yeah yeah yeah and so I slide the door open just enough for my fist to fit through boom punch him in the nose he falls back holding his nose I jump full Mount um and I'm just slapping him like you going to go home you going to be chill just holding him down cuz his two kids are sleeping inside oh jeez but then he just grabs me by my balls and twists oh and like I snap I lift him off the ground I hold him over this two-story balcony and he's like and I hear the girl she's like no so I just like step over hip toss him into this table and then I grab him by his pants in the color of his shirt and take him to a full a flight of stairs and roll him down the stairs wow boom he leaves I move in with this girl's 10 days later oh my gosh she's 36 years old I was 19 the she told her kids I was just a roommate so I mean this was this was crazy times right um I'm living with her everything's going well you know I I bought a car I'm making money I got the girl and eight months later I hear a pound on the door similar to the ex-husband so I'm like oh my gosh he's back round two wake up it's like 7:00 a.m. in the morning come to the door my boxers like ready to go and it was uh immigration this guy had been digging into me and figured I was working illegally I crossed the border illegally cuz I had a DUI so he had called immigration I ended up sitting four nights in a prison cell um because it was a th it was a Thursday and Friday was a holiday and it was when Brock Lesnar fought Cain Velasquez cuz I was so excited to see that fight and I got out man and it was it was crazy because I got out and I was so mad bro and I was like man I'm going to get deported this and that my girl bailed me out she put $5,000 cash to bail me out cuz there's no bail bondsman um which wasn't a lot but at the time it was and we went back to her house she said she was hooking up with some guy while I was gone cuz I was looking for my ecstasy and I wanted to do it and so I guess I drank a bunch of tequila snap trashed the whole house um and the kids woke up the next morning really mad so she jumped on me full Mount and was punching me oh my gosh and all I knew cuz I was on Xanax and doing coke and Tequila so all I knew what was whatever was happening I wanted to stop so I like pushed her off me and she like screamed she's like I'm calling the cops and I grabbed her most expensive bottle of wine cuz she was a wine dealer and I ran towards the beach police cut me off rolled over the car broke the bottle apparently I attacked them they beat me up so bad bro I mean if it was America I probably get shot um you know they stopped me they put me in the back of their Patty wagon and I made front page of the the Vancouver Sun which is like their main newspaper I did about eight or nine months in jail over there and and then they deported me back to the States so I get back to the States back to zero man I'm broke now I just got kicked out of a country did you go back to Colorado yeah they sent me back to Colorado okay so you're in Colorado and you're like 20 years old now or is it yeah so I'm about 20 years old okay so and just going back to the the doctors man because they prescribed me adderal when I was 13 and then I was having like I was like shaky at night so then they prescribed Xanax two 2 migr Xanax bars when I was 17 years old yeah when I went over to Canada I sold these are my prescriptions they faxed them over they sat me down they're like you should not be taking this they were like this is crazy you should like you're healthy you're like something's wrong with these doctors yeah so it's just crazy man how these doctors push those pills and I mean maybe they didn't know I say they're either ignorant or evil um yeah but I think with like the you know with the Aderall um I mean it's very overprescribed I'm not saying that nobody needs it by the way I think that there are you know cases where people need it um but the suggestion that all of these kids need to be taking it at the doses they're taking it at and um you know I was on Facebook and I was getting targeted for Aderall ads like oh you know basically talk to this doctor do you have what symptoms do you have it's like click this button and we can set up a doctor call and you know it's like I mean you're getting marketed for at all so yeah anybody who's an addict is like oh this is legal you know this is a legal prescription here there's nothing wrong my doctor is giving it to me it's like a way out you know it is and so uh it's um definitely overprescribed yeah that's another heart I have you know for really cuz that's the issue right you're a drug addict but you're like well the doctor prescribed it I need this and then you have that mindset and then you're like you find out later I was taking amphetamines at the age of 13 which caused a spiral downfall of me using all these different drugs because I was just searching for a high yeah because every morning I needed that Rush of that adderal so I was like I was like programmed my brain was like I had the monkey on my back at a very young age and you know it's just like you said there is there is a place for medication but these doctors are getting tick they're getting trips to Cancun and you prescribe this many things they're getting kicked back and all that that's well you saw what happened with the with the opiate epidemic I mean that's that's the oh I mean evil as as it gets with that you watched uh dopesick yeah it was incredible and yeah that's that's tough to watch and you're going to hear I I I fell into the opioid so at this time too 20 years old so I came back it was probably a God thing that I left the country after this which I'm going to talk about because all I had three friends die from overdoses on opioids like good kids like wrestlers had good families like you would never think and they just started taking you know the oxy and then it needed then they couldn't get the oxy so then they go to heroin and then there's fentanyl in it or they quit for a while and then they relapse and they do the dose that they used to do yep and they die and they die well people don't realize that too you know the problem with the the initial opiate crisis with the um oxycotton was doctors would get patients on oxycoton which is you know basically like heroin yes um and they wouldn't be able to get their oxycotton prescription anymore or enough to get their fix so they'd have to switch to heroin or they'd go through the withdrawal and so it was really a doctor induced addiction for most of the people oh yeah yeah and and they and they would what well now I don't feel well we'll just double your dose and then you're going deeper and deeper down this hole cuz it's so hard to get out yeah um but yeah so I'm back in Denver Colorado 20 years old parents are split up struggling um you know I just got kicked out of a country you know my dad's partying very hard at this time and you know I was just I need to make some money man cuz I grew up in a you know a middle to upper class family I had things when I was growing up and now I had nothing so I was like I need to do this so I had met some Guatemalans that were connected with the Mexican cartel in Canada and Canada the best cheap sxy so started getting shipment sent over in the mail FedEx boom boom every week every week and this is when the Rave scene was really big me and my buddies would go out we'd make a lot of money so I was like oh wow this is really working out and this is kind of a Bitcoin story too um now we're starting to send Western Unions back to Canada blah blah blah to reup to reup but we're doing it so fast now now they're starting to freeze our Western I'm using random girls here's 50 bucks send this Western Union they're starting to freeze any transactions coming from my city to their city um my boy hits me up he's like hey man' buy this thing called Bitcoin and you can send it to us and I'm like what is it and they're like it's kind of like a stock it'll go up and down and I'm looking at it 17 cents Bitcoin oh wow and uh I was like man I don't understand this so he sends his buddy down with 100,000 pills in his trunk and I'm just giving him cash and this dude's posted up downtown 8 months this um I got we were hanging out with these chicks for a couple months ended up one of them set us up I don't know if she what she had going on uh she said hey my buddy needs a couple thousand pills we went to a Walmart parking lot I could tell this this Mexican cat gets in and he was just he looked scared he was had shaking a little bit the money didn't look like he had enough I said pull out and go to a McDonald's through the McDonald's drive-through she goes to pull out boom smashed in the front smashed in the back daa oh wow jumped on us freaking pistol to my temple on the pavement looking at the broken Walmart sign and I said man I'm going to jail for a long time you had a couple thousand couple thousand pills so I posted bail I got out and I said no way am I going to prison for this long I was looking at four to I was looking at 4 to six um as a first-time offender I was 19 years old I said you know what they went to my my Grandma's house who which she she had an apartment but she lived in New York she she got old enough she never came back to so we were just doing it out of her apartment which is terrible thing to do but um she you know she was kind of abandoned it and they took 30,000 cash I mean they took everything and they and they didn't say anything they just came and they like cut mattresses I mean like it was like full on like the movies MH and uh I said you know what I'm not going to jail I went to the post office and they issued me a passport then I took my phone dropped it in water I bought a ticket on the Greyhound to New York or Indiana I said goodbye to my family there then I hopped on a train from Chicago to New York said goodbye by my family there there was one slipper where I owed someone $2,000 and I had put it in this just random slipper and that was the only money they didn't find I took that I bought myself a ticket from JFK to Amsterdam with about a couple thousand bucks in my pocket didn't know anyone so I was now a fugitive on the Run yeah I made it uh only a only like couple weeks in Amsterdam ran out of money called my cousin who had a buddy in Belgium he said hey man you go live with my buddy and find a job so I took a train or a like a bus over to Belgium ended up living there working at an Irish Pub for a little while um and you know it was doing all right I was helping in the kitchen MH I had worked there for about 8 months kind of living a normal lifestyle and I they're like where's your uh work visa I was like oh yeah it's coming in the mail and then about 3 months in hey Ian that work visa ever come and I'm like nah man you know how the mail is here and they're like well you're a good worker but if immigration comes you got to hide in this closet and I was like wow bro I know I know the feeling now like of how illegals feel here um so anyways I was working there this crazy Irish guy starts or this crazy English guy comes and starts working at the bar I'm in the kitchen this kid have no family this kid was just met this chick in tenie and ended up moving to Belgium so we were working there for a little while we kind of became friends because we were both kind of just crazy and running around and uh one night uh bachelorette party came in and me and him were the only ones there and we ended up just like trashing the place and partying with the girls and we had we both got fired the next day he printed out the Canadian newspaper of me we made him pay we went there we walked to the register we said just pay us what you owe and you'll never see us again and he said don't worry mate I'll get us some jobs so we took the ferry over to England and I didn't know his idea of us getting us jobs was us living in this apartment it was a shell no furniture no hot water no electricity we basically camped in there and painted in the day and I was like dude I don't want to live this life man like I'm I'm moving on this is not for me so we ended up getting a job at a club down in Sheffield it was called it's like Northern England and we worked there for a little while it was at a club hey guys coming into the club he did some crazy stuff tried to steal the safe at a club I was like I don't even know this guy and we actually reunited and UFC a't London and this dude this dude ended up being on like five episodes of uh behind or below the bow it's like it's like a series on what is it Joanie it's like below deck what what what he doing you're like a mate on a boat and it's like a sitcom or it's like a reality drama show so anyways we ended up meeting up but we we went we parted our ways there I've ended up hear hearing about this place called tenar the Canary Islands I made my way down there it was Paradise it was beautiful beaches beautiful women and I walked down the beach and I got to the club area and I said hey you guys hired and they said yeah you're hired on the spot where is the Canary Islands where is that is that uh it's off the coast of Morocco okay so it's not in the Mediterranean it's it's basically like the Cancun of Europe okay yeah so you know there was a lot of opportunity there I ended up working at a club for a Euro a person that I bring into the club so like my job was like Hey guys if you all get a shot I'll will throw in this blah blah blah it was they basically paid me in drinks I got eight drinks when I worked four drinks when I got off so three months of this I was a full-blown alcoholic man really rock bottom man I was homeless I couldn't even afford a30 a week to live in a room with eight other guys cockroach infested like it was bad like I was sleeping on the beach I was sleeping on the Park Bench um but there was this american guy there that I knew he was from Miami and his dad was Colombian he said hey Gringo we think you got a future man we don't want to see you living like this like you got potential blah blah blah come live with us 3 months with him I just worked out I got sober um you know they took me in like family but then one day the dad set me down he's like hey Gringo you want to go make some real money and I was like yeah I do so we started taking the trips down to Colombia Venezuela Aruba and we were getting kilos of coke we're breaking it down packaging it into packages and swallowing a kilo flying back home so about my fourth trip in on Colombia um some random black guy comes up to me in the airport he says D Su passort and I'm like uh no prend sir like just try to act like a real tourist and he's like secret police and I'm like oh he's like he's looking at my he's like you like Colombia huh you come here a lot I was like yeah I have a girlfriend here he's like yeah sure sit down so sits me down to a sketchy looking dude in a beautiful Colombian chick and I look at I'm like where are we what's going on here and they're like the eir Rays the X-ray oh yeah they told me in Spanish so I am and you're in Columbia right now I'm in Columbia okay and I didn't know at the time but I'm looking at 8 to 14 years in Columbia with what I had oh wow he told me only 3 to five and then they told me there's a special paper on it that the X-ray doesn't pick up I thought they were just saying that to BS me so I'm freaking out but I'm just trying not to panic right now I'm like just play it cool man I'm the first one to go up I go up put my hands up they took me to a big room in the bogat airport M it's about room this size big room and they this machine and it was like a treadmill and I walk out of this I'm terrified yeah and they say k1d I send your highest said have a good day sir and I signed and I fingerprint and I walked out of there and the adrenaline dump that I had could compared to winning a UFC fight like bro I was like like I felt like I could jump 10 feet high and I was like trying not to like walk weird but I would like like Sprint and then walk weird like like I was like yeah I mean it was it was a rush bro and then I got on the plane so so they didn't get you there no the paper worked wow what was it so you just put it was like it's like the metallic you know wrapping paper how has the color and then on the other side it's like that it looks like snowflakes but it's all like it was that oh you had it wrapped in the the cocaine wrapped in that so so you would you would compress it into 10 G balls like this MH and then you would put we'd have surgical gloves and you would you would you would first do a plastic and then you put it in the surgical glove we tie it cut it turn it upside down put it back in the surgical four layers of the surgical glove and then they would put um the paper around it and then you would take like like uh Sil Fame like the real smooth plastic and put around it and then you put it in like with like yogurt and stuff and just wow like wake up like six to8 hours before your flight before you had to leave swallow four or five walk around swallow four or five walk around until you get and and my buddy my the guy with you like one more he's like he's like 10 grand 10 grand swallow two more and like like so you you'd swallow as much as you could yeah I mean it was how much did you get per one um so the first time I went I was just like basically a mule you know s €7,000 mhm um everything paid for for me it was like a free vacation plus I got paid and then the Colombian gu is like hey man you can work for yourself but you have to bring this certain amount for me me so then I was making like I mean you spend $11,000 on a kilo and you sell it you break it into 2 kilos it's still good product you sell it for €70,000 um so you're basically 1,000 to 100,000 mhm and you would be able to get back a kilo ingesting it yeah wow good Lord we'd each we'd each get close to a kilo just hoping that it wouldn't explode in your stomach too cuz you'd be oh of course at that point yeah like one time I got deathly it was like one of the first times the first time was the scariest cuz they sent us to Cali columia mm and the guy wasn't with us it was just me and his son and it was with like his girlfriend's brother it was like sketchy dudes I was in like the most G like the most ghetto place in Cali Columbia like we were at the mall in chippy Chapa in this casino and and we were like uh yeah we're in uh this neighborhood and they're like no don't go there there like it was crazy like it was like it was like dirt roads but like they loved me there they were like Gringo like they like I was like the Gringo of the block and for some reason maybe that was it was because of people I was with it was like dirt road piles of trash homeless and then there would be like the most beautiful girls walking around and then it would be like all these dudes hanging out and then all of a sudden they would just take off running and police would be chasing them down these alleys like it was just it was crazy you'd hear gunshots um it was crazy but we didn't wrap our first first um our first batch yeah and I got defitely sick that time cuz like we went up into the jungle in columia and like I had like one of those sombreros on and I asked this little kid I was like uh where's the Gia and he's like I which is like the the Gia is like the like the cartel so I asked him I was like where are they and he's like over there and I was like H it's like they see a white boy like and like all the little kids would surround me cuz they never seen a white boy and like it was just it was like a crazy experience after that we kind of did it better where we wrapped our own stuff I felt a lot better but I came back and I got deathly ill and I started like feeling like I was fainting and I was like this is it I'm going to die like I thought I was just going to foam at the mouth and and die so after the secret officer secret police guy x-rayed us then I started to feel invincible so I'm like what are they going to do x-ray us like I beat the X-ray the paper works yeah so we used to do 3 months 3 months now I was doing one month one month one month and uh you know as fast as you make money the fast as it goes about 15 trips finally I flew back to tene they took me in the room they questioned me why do you come here so much and it was very odd cuz I didn't have credit cards I just had cash I was like I'm a rich American I have girlfriends my parents Western you need me money they're like that you know rich people don't use Western Union right so they let me go my girlfriend came in that checked out they let me go we walked down the Colombian guy was waiting in the parking garage for us like an idiot he should have jumped on a taxi and got out of there boom drug task force jumped on us instead of taking us to the X-ray in the airport cuz they didn't have one they took us to the hospital and that was the real X-Ray boom you know the plaque don't move and I was like moving and stuff like no don't move like I'm not and I'm like and and then finally they laid me down so I couldn't move and they saw it and it was like they couldn't really see it but they saw this little and it was this beautiful Spanish girl and she's like and then and they're like the the drug people I was G I was like my girlfriend's crying I'm a tourist here to come spend money in your country I was just being an [ __ ] to them and they're like we're so sorry we don't think we didn't see anything they're looking and the medical director is like you have drugs in your intestines what is it heroin cocaine she's screaming at me in Spanish and I was like Noah I was like no it's not no she's like it is it's seguro and I was like no I had Chinese food cuz it looked like a little like a little circle and they're like yeah shut up boom handcuffs hospital for 3 Days making me drink this xlax wow yeah it was it was bad because I felt really bad for the girl cuz she had nothing to do with it and she was going to jail too oh man but I said everything I was like she had nothing to do with it she doesn't even know they let her go but her son like got left at school like it was it was a deal man it was a mess so that's uh so that was in Columbia you got arrested or is that when you when you got over to Spain Spain yeah Spain okay so you got in you landed in Spain they get you you said in the in the airport parking lot yeah they first put me in the office and then they waited for us in the parking lot yeah to see who our accomplice was and he was of course waiting there he shouldn't have been but after you got the office where you're like oh oh [ __ ] I'm free yeah yeah was that the first time you gotten stopped and second time okay yep yep so I was like you know it cuz it all checked out my girlfriend was there picking me up she was a resident M um so yeah then I got taken in there I sat two and a half years without a trial or two years without a trial or a court date or anything apparently they can keep you there four years wow so yeah okay so Spain it's not you don't get like do process like in the United States like you're you're waiting for up to four years you waited two and a half years were you in a jail or a prison the prison yeah so they sent you to the prison and in this time man so I'm I'm locked up and it's like man I feel I feel terrible and I mean anyone would right you're locked up your whole life's upside down and you know there's so many times in my life when stuff like this happens and it end up being the best thing that could have ever happened to me mhm um because I started to sober up I started to think more I started to look around the people around me and I said I'm not like these people MH uh there was a wrestling program it took three months to get in it was like called Lucha Canadia it was like sagales African style wrestling in a sand pit best out of three takedowns no weight classes you had to eliminate the whole team um in a s pit like a gladiator s pit I walked up to the coach I showed him my ear this is in in the prison so there's a what's it called again Lucha Canadia there's a Lucha Canaria wrestling team program program inside the prison in Spain yes okay so the coach ended up being the father of Juan Espino who was a UFC fighter okay I had no idea at the time Juan Espino is like the goat of Lucha Canaria like he's like the man and his dad who was his coach is locked up for like 50 kilos oh okay so he's coaching the wrestling and I roll to him and usually got to sign all these papers and petition why you deserve I pointed to my cauliflower here he said yep you're coming so I started wrestling the team me and one other crazy American and we're the only Americans there and he wrestled in high school too so we were just going at it and I fell in love with wrestling again man they had a professional team that gets paid come off the streets and wrestle us we beat them oh wow we freaking beat him man how was it in so so uh how were the other wrestlers on your on your your program in in prison um there was a few sagales Africans who do similar style okay pretty good most of them um were junkies so they weren't that good but there was a few guys who actually did it when they were younger and they were good I see I broke two bones in there uh two guys bones but honestly I think it was cuz they were drinking the methadone um yeah cuz one guy I just had a like a like a overhook and I was falling back and I cranked it and it broke his arm m and the other guy I like hip tossed and his foot planted and it and it twisted and po pop and they're like man if you break another bone you're done but when we beat the team we were on the front page of the newspaper nice and they came up to me and they were like you love this don't you and I was like I've done wrestling I've done Jiu-Jitsu but my favorite is Lucha Canary I was trying to play it off because I thought literally I thought I was going to be the president of the Federation of Lucha Canadia wrote the a letter to the warden of the prison and said we want this American we want to recruit him oh nice so keep him on the island so when he's out we're going to give him a contract this is why you're waiting to get sentenced mhm okay so that's a two and a half year period yeah okay yeah about a two-year period cuz me and me and the Colombian guy we kept looking at each other we're like maybe the coke was fake H maybe we're going to get out you know like we didn't know it was weird right to be locked up and have no idea yeah your lawyer doesn't know the embassy's a joke like it it was it was it was pretty but I just took care of it I man I was like it was good for me because I was like train my mind train my body and my soul every single day I was reading books I was seeking the Lord and I was and I was training it was a full fight camp for me and like God just kept putting in my heart he's like you're going to be UFC chant when you get out and I would tell these guys this and they're like there was a kickboxing program I started kickboxing that was my first uh ever like introduction to kickboxing Mo Moses was there he was the K1 champ he was locked up the day he got out he used to beat me a bad and then I would wrestle him he wanted to do MMA so I traded him my wrestling skills for some of his kickboxing and he really helped me out he pieced me up a lot though um and the day he left this guy came who was training in Thailand this is probably some of the issues why I had concussions cuz I would fight these guys super hard and get like my bell rung hard and then it would be Siesta which was like an 4 hours in her cell and I would just go to sleep yeah oh yeah and so it was probably not best for the brain but anyways it was full fight camp for me man and I was like I was like man I might do this Lucha Canary I might stay here in Spain until like my cuz the goal was always to have um statue of limitations I was always hoping that my charges I heard it was 5 years and I heard it was seven years then I heard it wasn't at all mhm so I was just always I looked into joining the French Foreign Legion before I got locked up cuz my buddy was in there and just ended up not doing it um but I turned I turned literally the whole prison experience into a fight Camp I was training every day I was training MMA then I was training wrestling and there was a lot of people in the higher-ups in the prison that were like racist you could say they were like screw this Amer he beats us at our own sport like they were pissed so after another Lucha Canaria tournament where they had the A Team come from the outside we didn't win that time but they said they told me don't talk to the media and I still did an interview and I was saying how much I love it and I woke up in the morning the this chick warden came in threw the bag or this bag in my face pack your stuff they didn't tell me they were going to move me I had I had a terrible Vision at the time I got lasic now like I couldn't like I couldn't see my wife like I couldn't see far like it was like it was like minus 6 or something crazy like really bad vision and my buddy was bringing me contacts and I had a girlfriend and the girlfriend and we were doing like eventually she stopped coming after a while but I had like kind of help on the island and they threw a bag of me pack your stuff you're leaving in 30 minutes boom sent me to the airport locked up these gangster police with uh like ski mask came like open your mouth like straight up air style like we're at the airport Shackled like this like if you looked up they whacked you in the head they dug in my mouth with their fingers took our shoelaces off um and put us on like a they rented a commercial jet and they all put us on it we had to sit with our head down was this a commercial jet that was just yours or was it like there's other other people no no no it was just convicts murderers rapists cartel like it was bad they were shipping us to um a different prison to the mainland and anytime you lifted your head up Wham they would smack you in the head and it was funny cuz I just watched Conair a couple like a couple weeks before this and um anyways we we were landing and I started I was like he's got the whole world in his hands and these bermudan guys started dying laughing and they beat me up for it but I was like man it was worth it we landed we landed on the plane I was I was like I'm going to get to tell this story someday I was like I was getting like an adrenaline rush I was like just do it bro just do it and I knew the guys like three rows they started laughing and they got hit with the stick too so what they is they were they were hitting you with a stick yeah oh my gosh and if you like lifted your head up to look around they'd whack you was this Spanish it was like it was like secret like it was like their like uh it was like their FBI or secret forces or like I don't know from Spain it was from Spain yeah so then we get to this prison basically they transported me to this place called Leon and I got there and they had a boxing program and I was like yeah I'm in so I started boxing and this old Champion guy had been locked up for like 20 30 years started training full-time you could have a couple activities in the day and I would pick all boxing so I would do like three four hours of boxing a day and um eventually they set me up with a few fights and it was like the it was like the movies man they would come bet on it where are you now again in a place called Leon okay so you went from the canaries to Leon where is Leon um it's like the north of Spain North Spain yeah it's like the top of it um small farm town and you still hadn't been convicted of anything yet uh no that's when I had been convicted so they convicted you that's why they got you yeah so about two years in that one then they boom slapped me with a three and a half year sentence okay and then and then they Shi me to the north of Spain did you get two years off of good t for for time already served so I signed a paper that I won't come back to the European Union which I thought it was only Spain at the time that's why I had so much issues fighting in UFC London I see but it was the whole European Union I signed a paper it was called um EXT ex extr extradition or something where if I didn't come back to uh Europe they would give me one fourth of my sentence cut off okay and they deport you so I was like yeah I'll do that yeah of course exactly they never see me again yeah exactly so um we get to the north of Spain I start this boxing we I fight these like Russians like I I lost I remember even losing a fight there because like this dude is he he had like 20 years in prison and all he's been doing is training yeah so like these guys were good man but it was a really good experience for me where I was like starting to get my hands and I was just loving it I was like man I'm going to get out and I'm telling these guys I'm beating up dudes and I'm like they let me start my own MMA program like I signed I wrote all these papers I had this guy I was like dude write it in Spanish all good why I I I should do this MMA program and they let me do it so I was teaching MMA and the guards would show up and if guys had an issue I'd be like come to my class you guys can Spar and like so people were walking around black guys and stuff and they're like all happy and uh it was pretty wild man like it it just open my eyes and you'll see why I have this dream of starting um like a treatment center almost a halfway house because I know what it did for me because once I got locked up in the states it just turned me into an animal like all the people in there there was nothing for them to do let's just sit around and if he uses my toaster or chair we're going to stab him yeah like that's that's their mindset but when I was locked up over in Europe I got to wear my street clothes I I had to I got visits like normal visits and I was able to train I was able to do activities yeah so you started a boxing or rather you uh you started in a boxing program uh that they had for the inmates and then you petitioned the I guess the warden to be able to start an MMA program yes and they said yes yes okay so when they said yes did you how did you get Matt or did you get Matts or how did that work they had like Tai Tomi okay so we just laid it out in this Little Gym area and we just started like with wrestling and then we were doing some jiujitsu and then we started doing the Striking and we were just running it and they had they would just come in and watch us sometimes and it was just like they were good with it because no one complained yeah even though people out would get black eyes and stuff but no one would complain everyone loved it man sure and then after that everyone was so chill yeah we weren't aggressive towards the guards we weren't we weren't starting trouble at night we just wanted to train our MMA get our food maybe a little hash at night and that was it like like and it just shows like the mindset of prisoners and they have no outlet for their aggression yeah for sure and and you you treat someone like an animal they will turn into one yeah no no doubt about it I mean You' think that's you think that'd be common sense but yeah I I also understand the mentality of you don't want to give somebody that's locked up anything special but at the same time uh I think that idea is wrong because it it does make sense you're punishing them But ultimately uh it should be about the result uh if someone's going to get out of them being reformed reform yeah there's no reform it's a revolving door it's a business when you turn something like that into a business I mean these are statistics from years ago but the average gmate the government profits like 60,000 a year interesting yeah because for that yeah yeah well I mean I know that the uh the jails I don't know about the prisons but the jails are yeah they're a they get money based on how many inmates they have and the more inmates that they get the more money they get and it's uh you know yeah so they do uh benefit from more people being in there and you think about all the people that have probably stayed in jail longer than they were supposed to you people don't think about that like if you're locked up I know when my brother was locked up uh I got locked up after him um but same charges but we went on different at different times and the can I ask what it was for oh ecstasy yeah this is like 20 something I was three weeks after my 20th birthday I was facing 15 years in federal prison and uh I ended up getting an eight-year sentence uh with eight months to serve eight years probation uh 540h hour work weeks a year uh for eight years of community service wow I mean it was it was no joke Man In The End but uh while he was locked up they weren't letting people out with their good time and so my mom wrote a letter to the state okay and the enti like the state jail board whatever they're called or whatever and the entire uh state had to let out a bunch of people because they weren't you know letting people out in time and so um my brother actually got let out that day yeah and then they said oh we let you out ear they put him back in it was kind of screwed up how that worked 48 Hours imagine his mindset I'm free oh I got to go back in that would suck but um no the system is I mean and I got a trustee job so I was like cleaning the jail oh wow and we got you get more time off for that oh yeah you know so I was all about how can I knock off as much time as possible that's the whole game bro same here but there were no programs of like boxing or I would have Lov to be able to teach MMA in there or something oh yeah um but uh so yeah I I agree with you I mean you look at you know a lot of the Gils too are first time nonviolent offenders as well drug offenders and um you know we shouldn't be treating addiction for the most part like we treat crime yes because it's you know most of the criminals right now have drug problems yeah and you're right it is it is a revolving door now I don't think that you know if someone's a violent Criminal you know you got to protect Society from them yes so you you you want to have you probably different programs from for those that are being violent towards others but you know drugs I mean it's like why not what we've been doing doesn't work so we should probably try something different in 2024 yeah well I mean it used to be more of a reform they took the weights out they took all the programs out now basically all you can do is learn how to be a barber and Felons or barbers hire felons like the corporate ones so they're kind of screwed yeah yeah I mean there's we could talk about that all day because it's just the difference between what I had in and they go you know they are they were very lenient in um in a Spanish prison everyone's like oh my gosh you're locked up in a foreign prison I'm like thank God because after I did another 6 months in this Leon Spain finally they would do mental Warfare stuff though they would say oh you're going to get out and send you a letter and then 3 months to go by oh you're going to get out we'll send you a letter then a month to go by and they would like say this stuff Manana Manana this would be the Jael guards or who would be telling you minana the guards and the like upper the courts the courts yeah interesting so they would they would really dig in you the men so you had to come to a point where you just didn't care yeah that's how you would win because if you cared they would put you on this roller coaster and you would it was it was tough if yeah so anyways then after um they took me they put me on a plane they sent me to JFK mhm commercial jet I was free for the first time people thought I was so weird I was just like walking around and like oh my gosh like you know two and a half years I'm finally free and uh I land though in New York and I was like uhoh here we go they give me my passport cuz a flight attendant had to hold my passport now I'm a free man not for long though in my mind I'm thinking all these things I'm like man should I just run for it and I'm like no dude 911 dude they're not going to said Security's going to be strong so I just roll up give my passport Mr heish how long you been out the country I'm like a while they're like what's a while I'm like 5 years like they beep it it beats Red Man uh one second sir come with us yeah damn yeah felony warrants so they put me in the jail in the airport and like it was that was a crazy Place bro they were like I don't know if they're like beating people and stuff but like I heard people screaming in there and like trying to get answers like cuz people would show up with like fake papers you know and like they had no idea who these people are and they were fake papers and um but then they put me in they sent me to the Jamaica Queen jail house and I was there for the weekend Jamaica Queens jail house okay so Queens New York yeah okay terrible yeah I can only imagine how long were we there for drug addicts three days three days oh my gosh so what day was this was like a weekend or something yeah it was a weekend so so you had been in prison in Spain for three and a half years basically two and a half two and a half years um you get out you get on a plane back to the US you're probably thinking in your head yeah they're probably going to stop me like maybe they won't maybe they won't yeah you're convincing yourself maybe they won't you get stopped of course they're like oh you have warrants and now you're in Jamaica Queens jail in Queens New York yeah okay yep and so I'm in this big room and I mean people are coming off heroin puking and it's a weekend so it's just B one room how many people are in this room one room probably 30 40 people in a room this size so I'm just in the it's brutal and you know just sleeping in the corner how many other white people were were there zero yeah you're the only white Puerto Ricans and and uh African-Americans and I was like finally I yelled the girl was like I was like what's going on cuz they kept yelling like people come in people get called out and they're like shut up you're a special case CU I was a fugitive damn so finally I see the judge the judge says there's no chance of bail and I'm like okay and then I get in this room and my public defender or whatever they are I never she's like you need to go to protect the custody and I was like why she's like you're going to Riker's Island and I was like I didn't even know Rikers was I was like so I was like in my mind I was like I I I've been locked up two and a half years throw me up the wolf I'll lead the pack like that was my mindset and um so was like no I'm good as we're driving across this bridge I'm like whoa this is an island like cage after cage after fence after fence and I'm like looking around like wow they're walking me to my pod or whatever the guard looks at me he's like man you must be one bad white dude I'm like why and he's like we don't see you in this wing and I was like and in my mind I was like oh shoot like I was like you know but I was like yeah you you damn right and you know I was and I was in maximum security in Riker's Island so um you know I was with like the real troublemakers there so they throw me in and ride way dudes Rush myself C where you from where you claim blah blah blah blah blah I don't want nothing to do with none of you guys get out and it was tough man that was a tough couple months and uh you know like doing deals for they wanted my phone time and it was just like wanted your phone time what do you mean just like stupid stuff they're like you know they're always trying to take stuff like you know you get a certain amount of phone yeah so yeah so you you get in there uh they Rush your cell like what what was the first because you're not in the gang yeah you know are there other white people in that jail no so you're the only white dude in the whole Max security of there there's there was some white people I ran into like two okay but not in this pod okay so this pod you're the only white dude yeah and so what was what was the talk I mean were they going to kill you is it like well they put a Snickers bar under my pillow you never eat that because then you you owe them something so I said take your stuff bro I don't want nothing from you guys and it was just it was just uh it was a struggle man I was just like dude stay away from me like and luckily I spoke Spanish so I was like talking to the Latin Kings like I was like really chopping up well I didn't know what they were I was just talking to him and like telling them what where I came from and what I was doing and like the connections I have and basically it was like that first day I had my tray of food and it was like all the gangs everywhere and I'm just walking oh my gosh and then and the L and luckily this the the Latin guys were like sit here and I was like thank God yeah and and it was all right man um so that's because if if you if nobody let you sit anywhere like oh they're going to get you bro yeah they're they're just looking at you like he's with no one yeah they're going to abuse you you know so you know weeks go by then they start doing this crazy thing bro they're like they make me go to court hus you're going to court tomorrow okay Shackled up walk pull your pants down Squat and cough like do all that stupid stuff jump on a bus get drove to Queens sit in a nasty disgusting jail like a holding cell Fe fed these nasty peanut butter and jelly sandwiches eight hours all right we're going back what no lawyer no judge like no like what are we doing they did this the next day then the next day who who is doing this I don't know the the jail or the courts or what I don't know why they were doing it it was it was ridiculous and then they and then finally the third day I was like no I'm not going they come up with tasers okay and fingers I I made friends with this this Latin guy and he was he's missing a couple fingers they called him fingers so I was like I was like dude I'm not going man cuz I told him I basically was like I was like told him to F off and like they left and then they came back he's like they're going to come with tasers you better go they came with the tasers I said I'm ready to go yeah and uh I came back and I was just in a bad mood man and one of the one of the gangs was like Hey we're going to use your phone I said nobody's using my phone today and I just went my cell and he's like oh really and they see me Shadow Boxing him my cell cuz I've been training full time he's like you think you fight we fight for real on the streets and I'm like sure bro cool cool story and uh so this dude finally after I told him no for my phone he's like all right meet me in the back so I'm like and this is a big dude like so I'm like all right he's going to scrap like let's we're going to do this so I rolled back there and he's like boom he pulls this nasty looking shank out bro and he's doing this like and I'm like and I'm like dude no bro please man I don't want no problems and I learned a few tricks so I was like I got real close to him all scared and like please man please boom just caught him right on the chin dude flattened him face down and then all his brothers came running up mhm three little Latin dudes getting and I took my shirt off and I wrapped it around my hand cuz I was ready to grab knives cuz I knew they were I thought they were just going to be like cuz I saw this happen bro like a a [ __ ] came in one time and you know they're from the opposite gang and bro they just stomped him out like like where he was laying there for like 20 minutes in pool of blood and like they would like come around and soccer kick him in the face when he was out cold and the guards are sitting there eating sandwiches watching TV wow the guards would come in and be like what up BL what up BL what up BL so the guards were on the same gang as these guys they were friends from the Block MH apparently when Obama put in this like new law where like they need to have like Section 8 give them government jobs M the ones with clean records got all these jobs so there guards in there wow so it was bad bro like I mean like people were dying like a lot like and guards were real nasty too like someone would be getting dragged down the hallway as you're walking and you have to put your face against the wall and the guard came up to me and went ah in my ear like and I was like and I turned around and he pulled his night stick out turn around like like why bro and he was a white guard like you scared me like yeah like no but like why would he do that like he's just trying to abuse you of course and so these little Latin guys get in front of me and they all have Shanks and this the Bloods are coming up they're coming up to fight like they're coming up to stab me and they're like wait so so you had the Latin ones with the shanks and the Bloods were also coming to stab so I dropped homeboy okay and was I don't want to say the gang affiliation you're saying there was a lat Latin gang and then some other gang coming at you so two different gangs no the Latin guys have my back oh okay Latin guys so they stood in front and they said you mess with white boy you mess with us he got heart and I was just like M I'm like thank you Jesus like cuz that's crazy Y and then they were like the guards came broke it up put us back in our cells fingers are like cleaning the hall sweeping the hall he walks by myself C he's like hey man he's like Gringo you got to get out of here man I was like why he's like he's like these Bloods are going to kill you bro like they this gang they're they're coming for you and I'm like what they say he's like they got a SOS and I'm like what's that stab on site it's like wherever you go they're going to get you you you ain't no punk you got to go to protect the custody though they're going to get you it's like call the guard over and I'm like guard guard and I like hit the button and they come over and I was like these guys are going to kill me you have to get me out of here and he has this smirk on his face he goes F you white boy and slam the door I'll never forget that look he had in his face damn so I was in my cell dude and we we were like taking sub box in me and fingers passing him back and forth like getting all high off this weird stuff and I'm wrapping my hands I'm making armor I'm pulling the beds apart like I knew they were going to open the doors and just let these dudes come in cuz they're their boys MH and I seen them do this to other guys so like I'm up just praying and like just like almost like hallucinating from whatever this drug I'm taking in and like so it's like 6:00 a.m. or it was like 5:00 a.m. the do open at 6:30 heish and I pop up and I'm all like ready bro like I had it all like the I had everything tucked in my shirt like I had armor ready I was like I like had the mattress moved over so I was like funneling through the hot Gates like I was ready to go like and they were like looked at me so weird cuz like my whole place was turn down they're like like grab your stuff we got to go and I'm like who are you and they're like US Marshall and like bro it was one another time God it was just like like pull me out of there and he walked me P they walked me past that hallway and like all these dudes are like wherever you go we going to get you white boy in my head I'm like you ain't going to Colorado and uh I'm good peace so they walked me out of there threw me in a van Shackled like this and dude they drove to Pennsylvania to Vermont back to New York 48 hours later were back in New York apparently when they crossed borders they would get paid more pick someone up drop someone off pick someone up so they did this circles around the country so the heater was broken m in the back seat in February in the east coast so every night shivering bro like you couldn't even sleep I didn't sleep for 11 days 11 days straight I did not sleep all they fed us was McDonald's and Burger King it was fast food and then they would only let you pee every 6 hours you had to be at a jail so I stopped drinking water cuz one time I was I had to pee so bad and we were like two hours away I was like dude I have to pee they bounced the Gatorade bottle off my head and I had to like pick it up hit my knees Shackled and like piss all over myself like it was embarrassing bro I was just like dude this is terrible and there was like old guys on there like almost dying and stuff every 72 hours they were required to put you in a a jail but for some reason I had it unlucky I would like lay down like thank God I get to sleep heish you got to go and like so like I constantly for 11 days was on a bus like this and that was bad bro like I was like that was probably the worst part like I looked no lawyer you didn't know who like what was going on phone no one KN can know where you're at wow because like you basically lose touch with the world like no one knows where you are because they don't want people to know where you if people have your location they might try to break you out or something like that they said so and and the and like the food and like the bathroom times was crazy bro and then like the heater was broken so I was screaming I'm like dude we we're like freezing back here and they're like shut up we won't feed you it's like We complain they would stop feeding us so like I was like gosh bro like America's terrible like this is the US Marshalls yeah wow that's incredible yeah so um so finally we get to Colorado we get we get to this mountain jail and there was bed sheets pillows toothbrush like it was heaven but you you stay up for like three you stay up for 11 days you start hallucinating and I couldn't sleep after that like it was like it was very weird anyways I was in I made it to Jefferson County it's it's in Colorado boom my parents finally they bail me out 2014 Valentine times day I was a free man wow I called my dad I said dad what are you doing he says I'm at a yoga festival downtown you want to come I like yeah so I went from being around all Moroccans and Spanish people to All Around Puerto Ricans and blacks to all around like white boys and then all of a sudden I'm at a yoga festival with all white chicks and like it was just like I I was doing yoga and laughing and people were like looking at me and my dad's just like laughing too cuz like I like you guys have no idea so you have no idea what I just been no idea what I just been through wow and my dad said like he's like dude it was like you were like like a kid again or something cuz everything was so new and like yeah you have to think I was gone for 5 years a lot changed in America like like I was behind so this is 2014 so uh how long were you in Rikers for um I think like five or six weeks five or six weeks okay and then you said they were driving you in circles but when did when did you know you were going to Colorado well I knew I was going to Colorado cuz I had a warrant there and they're extraditing me yeah I just didn't know we were making like a bunch of stops all these stops bro like cuz apparently yeah I think they get paid like they pick someone up drop someone off pick someone up drop someone off some crazy people like Escape artists and stuff this guy this guy is locked up for escaping prison three times oh wow and uh I was like you you really think you could Escape like we're just having this convers he's like oh yeah he's like I always do and I was like really he's like but I'm not going to cuz I have a kid now and I don't want to get in trouble again and I was like well at least tell me when you would cuz like I was just like so mind blown he slips his cuffs he's just back there chilling like I'm like bro how do you slip your cuffs and like and like uh he and like I was like trying to be cool with him cuz I was like it's kind of scary when you're like this and someone's free like if they were mad at you like they could really smoke you like smoke you yeah and was a point where they were unloading people and like the guard was behind and the door was open and he has his slip cffs he's like no I could and he's like he could he could run right now and I'm like wow but anyways it was just interesting people and 2014 Valentine's Day I'm a free man for the first time out of yoga Festival then um you know I know I have to I can't drink I knew that was the common denominator stop drinking I always got in trouble with drinking and I need to find an MMA gym and I called my buddy and he said yeah we know of MMA gym and I went to factory X and um I started training and this my buddy was the one I used to wrestle you picked me up every single day and take me to the gym and the day he stopped going to the gym I got my driver's license so I didn't miss a day of training nice so I went four and0 as an amateur all finishes were you were you completely off of drugs at this point yes okay so you're clean yep good I was doing like smoking hash in jail and I had like a little bit of Xanax and I was taking a sleeping aid every night but I was clean when I got out and so I started started training I I started fighting as an amateur 4-0 M then I started fighting as a pro8 no four finishes and I got to this fight LFA Championship you win this belt you win this title you're going to the UFC you lose you're in the back of the line I went into that fight and as you know and everyone knows when you're not living right outside the cage it always shows inside well one year before this my coach my old coach used to push me to spar right before fights to do all these crazy stuff when I had a concussion he pushed me to spar um and I was sparring the Friday before my fight popped my LCL went to the doctor had to pull out of a fight doctor prescribed me 40 perco setes boom instantly hooked yeah next thing you know I'm doing oxies with my dad um smoking them I'm sniffing them I'm going to Mexico after my fights to buy more because I can buy over the counter it was a vicious cycle I would quit three weeks before a fight for one week I would have deathly withdrawals like sick like a flu yeah then I would feel kind of good then I would it would be fight week then I would go fight I win the fight and of course to celebrate I wasn't drinking so I would take oxy mhm um and I was so addicted man to oxy and like I saw so many friends die of this and I was taking crazy amounts I was taking tram at all and I was taking everything man like any painkiller like you know it was getting real bad man where I was like willing to do whatever for it you know where you get in that stage and after I lost that first fight your first fight you lose is always the most devastating it's terrible like it's like it just hits you hard like after you lose a couple you just don't know what to do with these feelings yeah so I went on this camping trip and I had been going to church and going to this Bible study but I was still doing drugs and hooking up with chicks and it was just it wasn't matching up with what I was trying to believe in and my my buddy Nate Mart UFC Legend um is a mentor of mine he gave me this Bible study and it was me and my buddy busted it out we went camping in this crazy spot I hiked till this hike we hit a storm and almost killed us I was chopping wood till my hands bled I just wanted to feel pain I was so mad I just wanted to let that aggression out and finally we calmed down and uh I busted out this Bible study and it just said it was just challenging my salvation and my faith and I felt offended at first and then it hit me like a ton of bricks it was I was living as a hypocrite I was not truly saved and at that moment I was like God take my life cuz if you don't take take it I'll take it cuz I don't want this life I'm sick of it I've worked so hard and and I have nothing to show and I'm just a junkie again and uh I'm just addicted and the next couple weeks I went to church and there was a baptism call I had no idea God was pulling so hard on my my heart to go do it I went in that water it looked clear when I walked out it looked black to me and I felt God say that was your addiction and that was your sin dead and at that time I was broke I was living in my buddy's basement I was not in the UFC I never paid taxes in my life I was basically not a real citizen and a year later I met my beautiful wife married her we bought a house together I broke into the UFC I broke into the top 10 and I was a taxpaying citizen for the first time in my life that's awesome yeah man and what was that like you know so you know you basically you had your addiction again which I was an optic as well um 2008 I tore my LCL PCL miniscus oh wow same and um we had team doctors they gave me prescription pain pills I taken for about two years and I wasn't like I i' never went to oxy thankfully all Lura tab yeah U and um couple years in I was like I'm just going to stop went through withdraw uh you know multiple times over the next six months try to stop withdraw withdraw withdraw went to a therapist and I said uh you know I'm completely functional running my companies but rather have a clear brain and deal with a pain that a f foggy brain in no pain he said uh uh America's behind the times when it comes to opiate would draw Google IBO gain and so I Google IBO gain and supposedly it stopped 100% of Opie withdrawals really and um uh I was skeptical so I watched a couple documentaries I'm like you know what I'll give it a try uh went to it was illegal in the United States went to Mexico City took a bus C hour south uh did IO gain at a place called a Boga Quest and was home 72 hours later never had a withdraw never had a craving wow and um that's actually how we got into the healthcare stuff we're doing now because that sparked the well if this works but isn't available in the United States what else is out there you know wow but um you know so you know with the addiction though I can only imagine you know once you're you were addicted you you were an addict you went to prison you were clean had convinced yourself that you were making these changes in your life which you were you overcame a tremendous amount of adversity you got out of Rikers barely you know sent cross country get clean bunch of fights but then now you have this addiction like what is really you know you have you know you you prayed like God either take my life or I'm going to take it but what you know what is the mindset like is it just hopelessness what was the big spark besides that uh you know Nate giving you that that verse um yeah it was just it just came to a point where it was like like you said I've been through so much and I overcame what I thought was my addictions before and now I'm about to be in the UFC and change my life and now I just lost this fight and it's because I'm addicted to oxy and I can't get off and after everything I've came through now I'm back hooked on drugs and I'm so close to my dream and it it got taken away I thought at the time where I was trying to control everything and it became this overwhelming feeling of I can't do this by myself I need God and I need to surrender my life because I'm trying to control every situation every outcome and it was just like it was just a mountain of stress and anxiet on top of me and just and every time I tried to control it it failed where I was just like man I need faith I need to give this to God and whatever the outcome may be it's his plan so did you go through the withdrawal as well again you know is it like you just were like one day I'm not going to take this anymore and you went through the dope sickness and well yeah yep man 100% actually I had zero withdrawals really I had zero withdrawals after I got baptized it was crazy I actually I actually um it was a baptism call and I knew I was going to do it but I wanted my mom and and family to be there so I said it was a Saturday service I said let's do it on Sunday tomorrow I'll be back I went and binged that night adderal uh Xanax opioids everything and the crazy part is all those prescription drugs are probably the worst for you and I'm sitting there sh itchy heart pumping laying on my bed and I'm like dude I hate this why do I do this to myself and the next day I went in and uh to church got baptized zero withdrawals after felt the most love the most light the most weight lifted off me the most amazing I felt but then all of a sudden I had this like weird head feeling of like and maybe you could call that withdrawals but it lasted a month of like um like when you're coming down from being high like on weed and you just have that like fogginess MH I had foggy or almost concussion for a month like I told my coach two weeks in I said and I was I was transparent with him about what was going on I'm like dude I'm not training cuz I don't know what's going on with my head and like a month after all of the sudden one day the fog just lifted like this and I felt God say that's the feeling you never want and now I never want that feeling cuz I used to like that feeling of kind of high and out of it and don't care and and and now I love to be sharp I love to be on point and I don't I think it was God showing me that feeling that I never want to have again mhm so he made me have that I'm praying I'm like I did what you wanted God I was obedient you know um I changed my life like and I'm surrendering and it was just I just had to stay faithful faithful faithful and literally one day and I don't know if it was audible or a voice inside of me but I heard that's the feeling you never want and from that day I've been sober mhm and and you know I used I've used like uh CBD and THC and stuff um for pain but if it goes too far from just a body relief if it goes too far to like a high I will feel that feeling and I don't want that feeling yeah yeah I I have to uh I have to watch it when if I get injured you know I tell the doctor that I'm going to I'm like hey you I had this opiate problem like don't give me x y and z mhm uh I just don't want to take a chance man you know it's like get that get that feeling again and you know it's hard to explain until you until you've been through it yes you know your mind just plays tricks on you like you always had an excuse to do it you know at least for me that's how it was for me it's like always an excuse oh well this hurts oh well oh well it's the weekend oh it's my day off like there was always an excuse your that little voice in your head is so evil like that's that's not and that's the thing when I first went to uh sell your perform perance Institute um and I got the intal I tried doing zero pains bro yeah and you know you're on the bed and I remember like and I was like just give it to me and they hit me with something I was like I'm going to go out I'm going to go out I'm going to go out and the very nice nurse you had there was like just take deep breaths like that that was like I was so glad she did yeah and I just took deep breath and I ended up doing like uh tramal after and and it was just it was just a different feeling though like yeah I had that like uh like that good feeling but it was like it wasn't like I need this again so I do believe God changed something in my heart but yeah I'm still nervous cuz I don't want to I don't want to open doors I don't want to play with fire cuz that was that when you're out of that man you never want to go back yeah no no doubt about it I mean like I said I'm I watch it pretty carefully if I if I injured or whatever you know um and it was actually kind of funny uh this is probably five or six years ago I woke up with these back spasms so much so like I couldn't get out of bed had my phone there I'm like and uh it's like lower back um and so I lower middle back like spaz if I move that's tough and uh I'm like shoot so I call my buddy John saterfield I'm like hey man like I don't want to call an ambulance but would you mind coming over here and helping I need your help to get out of bed you know and so for about 45 minutes he's trying to help me out of bed I'm in my underwear you know like this is and you know every time he move me and so there was a point where he's holding my head off of the bed and we just start I start laughing cuz I'm like sitting here my buddy's like trying to help me out a bit in my underwear it felt kind of you know funny as like a sitcom or something yeah and we went to Vanderbilt and at that point I would have taken pay I'm like I got to have something yeah and the uh doctor there thought I was searching for drugs oh wow and he's like you know you're just a I'm like Oh my this is kind of funny actually because you know that's that's the opposite I almost would would do anything not to take this but this is how much how much pain pain that I'm in but um yeah I mean that's uh he's like nope he's like uh you know how many of these places have you been to I'm like man I haven't done a pain pill in seven8 years I don't know it's been a long time so it's just the opposite but I've heard that before you know you do have to be cognitive of it like to not go down that you know Rabbit Hole again um so but that that's amazing I mean at what point so you know you basically turned your life over to God yeah uh you know said he saw the water turn black yeah uh and that was the uh the realization that that's like your all the toxicity or whatever leaving your body addiction what was life like after that at what point did you meet your wife um yeah so and going back to your point it does suck after you've been abuser of these drugs because there is a time in place where you could really you man I wish I could take a muscle relaxer or on a plane and the turbulence is so bad like wish I could pop a Xanax right now like this is terrible um but you can't cuz you abused it um but yeah so after after that um after I was baptized and I was just like all right um I'm all in on fighting I'm all in with God and I just started Living different man and I had to leave old friends and I had to get new friends and just stay on a good track and you know after that I fought in LFA again and what what year is this by the way so time FR this is 2017 okay 2017 yep 2017 so then I fought in LFA first round knockout boom oh no second round knockout very vicious knockout though then they put me Main Event in Vil Colorado boom knockout then I was like I'm going to the UFC let's go Contender series came out now you got to go through Contender series and it was like the joke the maners always say one more finish one more finish one more finish and it was like nowadays it's so easy to get in the UFC I feel like compared to how it used to be right like used to be used like like now guys are like five and two and they're getting in the UFC like I was 10 and one when I got in the UFC and it was still a challenge yeah all right you got to go to the contender series that's fine um and I had met Joanie at a at a yoga Festival I was um I was driving back from camping with my dad after a fight and we were going to this yoga Festival my dad wanted to go to this crazy Rave and it was like a fork in the road do we go to this like Sonic Bloom it was called or this yoga festival and I'm like Dad I'm not I'm not doing stuff like I used to and I was like let's just go I'm down to go do some yoga we went to yoga and that's where I met my wife um she was at the same hotel and I was walking past her I'm like hey what's up I like I'm going to go do this class if you want to come and she showed up and that's how we met we started dating um and then I had Contender series went out there knocked the guy out first round with elbows boom vicious bounced his head off the ground um you know like four unanswered elbows was just on top of him and got a UFC contract tried to fight in Denver Colorado tried to fight Kevin Holland tried to fight all these guys no one would fight me because the elevation so I was just staying ready and I was really like pressing the UFC I was like I want to fight like I'm ready to make UFC money I'm ready to get the fight kit I'm ready to you know be a UFC fighter and uh it was November and they they called me on a Thursday said uh Cesar ferrera's opponent pulled out in Argentina you want to go out said yeah let's do it in Argentina yeah oh cool so I flew out on Saturday or on Sunday MH so it was 8 days notice yeah um flew out on Sunday jet lag she came out we had only been dating a little while and she was like yeah she's like I'll come out with you and I'm like cool let's go so we flew out there and um just had the best experience of a lifetime just close family and friends flew out um won the fight ended up hanging out with the UFC stayed up to like 6:00 in the morning morning with the UFC like every cuz it was just like so tight and itched it was one of those hotels where it's all a big circle and the bars in the middle so it was just like every I got to know everyone in the UFC it was super cool hang out with Mick and Sean and just like and just really meet the whole staff and really got became really cool with them right away MH so Cesar Ferrer was like 15 in the world beat him close decision a war somehow I had more cardio than him even though it was short notice um and then second fight I was supposed to fight Tom Brees in um London had all that legal battle my coach was like I can't accept the and finally Mick's like you know what screw it Ian I'm going to take a chance we were like chasing the lawyer down in tene and trying to get all this paperwork and Mick just called me he's like Ian I'm just going to take a chance book a flight let's go and I was like let's go showed up was supposed to fight Tom Breeze or the London boy and uh day of the fight I'm getting ready to go getting ready I just showered getting ready to hop on on the bus and Tom turned his phone off and or he said he was injured but I later found out he just turned his phone off and drove away so I think he had like but he had like mental issues and I mean everyone gets nervous so I I don't want to talk bad about him but and then I got a short notice fight to fight uh Antonio Carlos Jr um you know Jiu-Jitsu black belt World Champ fought him took me down after round and a half of him controlling me and trying to submit me he got tired and just beat him down uh won that fight he was ranked 10 in the world then I was ranked nine in the world um then I fought Derrick Brunson so my whole UFC career I just was thrown in with the Wolves looking back yeah maybe I could have fought Contender series guys and lower level guys and built my way up and then I fought Derrik Brunson lost a close decision fought Omari yed off and this is when I started having concussions to the point where I was like my coach was pressing me to come to the gym I couldn't come to the gym I hopped on a plane to Mexico and just went to a resort and laid on the beach by myself like like just cuz I had and then finally I came back my coach grabbed my face like just train and uh you know I lost close fight to omarov and I was like man I got to change this I can't get pushed like this so I had a thyroid issue a thyroid disorder I started putting on a lot of weight I had a really bad hypothyroidism so all of a sudden I used to weigh 205 and my weight Cuts weren't bad now I'm 220 225 and the weight cuts are horrendous yeah which isn't good for your brain either I not good for my brain um I felt lethargic all the time like bro I could pull over on the side of the road and just yeah and just like like I was that tired like the only time I would feel good is when I'd get my adrenaline going at practice then I would feel good so it was like I had some serious health issues I had this skin issue I kept getting stabed um over and over and this was actually this happened before I met her so this was right around Contender series time M and it would be like fuli staff antibiotic go to the doctor they prescribe me antibiotics yeah go away stomach wrecked next month boom again I probably did 20 rounds of antibiotics this um in one uh like summer sure and I had blood in my stool oh yeah up your stomach oh bro I was so I went and got a colonoscopy I woke up when they were done and the doctor goes it was from stress do a suppository that's it yeah from stress so I have blood in my stool I'm gaining weight like I'm like I don't feel right in the gym anymore my cardio's gone I'm a cardio machine that's what I pride myself on like I have that like like I I brawl and I make people I make fights ugly like I scrap then grapple then scrap and every I'm losing everything and I meet her and it's like our third date and I'm like or I'm like this is kind of like weird to tell you but like can your doctors help me and she's like what's going on like I was like um I have blood in my stool like it's pretty bad like and no one else cared like my coach and stuff and so they took me to the doctor got my blood work done found out I was anemic in my iron CU I was losing so much blood I had Hashimoto thyroid I hypothyroidism I had ulcerated colitis and I was all messed up so they totally changed my diet my supplements super high probiotics I started doing ozone treatments for my legs uh 10 passes after 10 passes how many 10 passes did you do probably like 15 20 cleared it up yeah yeah man it would I would have I would have a breakout before the fight go do a 10 pass and you'd almost see it drying up going away like the next day it would almost be gone wow and then I would go fight but the thing is I would have a herxheimer response and because it would just be killing all that crap I would just like for like two days I would just like oh you get sick I'd feel like sick Bro yeah ozone man it's like we were talking earlier but it is my favorite thing and um you know you will get her summer reactions like if you have covid and you do o ozone um like I do the ozone and I get the response I'm like ah I'm getting you know you feel a little sicker for a minute because you have the die off and you have your immune response yeah you know to that but um you know ozone's one of those things man people it's incredible there's um there's a couple doctors it's Dr Rollins uh Robbins and and Rollins I could be messing this up one's in New York one's in California but um they went to the sier Leon to treat Ebola patients yes and uh wild and they were healing them basically the government said get out yeah they kicked they end up kick him out I think they treated the president of Sierra Leon um and uh yeah let's see what these doctors uh names are uh well but I want see what the doctor's names are uh type in Sierra Leon ozone yeah ohola yeah Rowan there we go oh y Dr Rowan is one and uh that's who yeah and but there's let's find the other guy's name click on that Rowan one um and just hold on right there let me look at the arthor authors uh yeah so it's uh Dr Robert Rowan and Dr Howard Robbins they went from New York and California and went to sier Leon treated the E uh Ebola patients I believe they actually treated as I was saying the president of Sierra Leon and EV the health department uh the of the country came in and said you can't be here and my argument to like the mainstream scientists that say there's no evidence like these are two licensed medical doctors that are going to treat Ebola patients like they clearly have done enough research to think that this works because if not they're going to die if they get Ebola and um I mean it's a you know ozone is incredible I mean there was a study and this is kind of funny because as soon as covid happened first thing I thought was ozone therapy thought ozone would be the the best thing to treat covid yeah um I started translating some different languages uh and ozone uh for clinical trials to see if there are any clinical trials going on in different countries and I found one in Italy and uh there was a doctor from Italy was anesthesiologist so I sent him an email uh wow and U in Italian like you got translated on the transl thing and he wrote me back nicely kindly in English so you know I can speak English and um uh he was doing a clinical trial so I do a podcast with him and it's about his clinical trial that had uh he had 36 patients 35 were pre-icu one was in the ICU the 35 pre IU with covid didn't have to go to the ICU the one that was in the ICU got out of the ICU and um we have a great conversation about it weren't making any claims we're talking about his clinical trial and YouTube kicked me off um just for doing the podcast and I didn't even think this is like probably April or May of 2020 so this is right after you know it wasn't very far in and it was before they started Shadow Banning and been Shadow ban now for a long time but um you know ozone therapy like for something you're talking about it actually works good with anti itics like it's not just you know you can add antibiotics as well and they will work better um so uh I'm not surprised you know tin pass is super strong oh that's a That Rocks the body yeah yeah but and we we we bought a ozone machine that's how much we believe in it we brought it to Thailand with us and uh yeah I mean her doctor like he was the one telling us about all these studies and oh yeah um yeah it's it's incredible what it does and I actually the first experience I had with those I had this ringworm that would not go away like it like I put every single cream on it like it was the itchiest biggest nastiest ringworm I've ever had in my life and it would not go away and I went to this yoga thing in New York and this guy was all about ozone and he went bop bop bop bop like in my skin pushed air around it blew up like this big and then it came down gone like I'm talking like like four 4 hours like I watched this thing just gone did he inject inside the ring worm or was it around around it interesting interesting cause an immune that's that's awesome it was crazy there's a lot that I can do you can do cupping too so if you have like a sore or something that's not healing there's these cups that you can put on and put the ozone in and it'll it'll just get that one major area for staff infection you can cup it too and uh of course staff a lot of times is in deeper but I've had I've had friends who are Fighters that uh it basically you know two weeks out of a big fight staff infection in their calf and we ozone the hell out of it and and got him to fight and they won they won the three rounder nice so um yeah don't say their name because ozone is uh it's not usada approved it's not usada approved you can't you can't like use it on your skin I don't know my doctor I told him that he said he said what are they going to ban now deep breaths of air yeah3 like come on yeah yeah so it's but it is people have no idea and like my my cousin's a PA and we tell him about it he's like n that stuff's and I'm like dude you dude ozone I mean you know here we have now we're the largest manufacturers of mesenchimal stem cells in the world yes and over stem cells I would pick ozone I mean I say that publicly I don't care like this is I now it's different things help certain things but for overall health on a regular basis there's nothing better yeah than ozone you can do it you know uh I have a generator next to my bed in Nashville and next to my bed in uh Mexico um if you do it every other day you will never get sick and you can do it you know IV you can do the tin pass which is pumping 10 times you can do it extraoral which is going into a machine taking your blood out and then putting it back in your body that's a strong yeah yeah that's even that's even stronger and then um or but for home use you can do it rect and about 50% of the IV dose and for me I don't have to get stuck now every week I can just do it that way and I mean it freaks people out doing the IV yeah pushing looks yeah looks like air right but it uh it works incredibly so I'm a huge I'm a huge o ozone fan and uh that's cool that that it helps you I mean oh it heal me y when nothing could bro like they even took samples of it and they're like like only thing they could tell me was antibiotics and it's like and the thing was weird she never caught it and I sleep in the same bed as her no one ever caught it from me having it so it was something in my blood like it was something from being locked up I think it was something from mold or you know well we all have you know staff and stuff on our skin it's natural so like for instance like if uh you know for injections that's one that we have to clean the a but for stem cells for instance got clean the area really good our biggest fear uh or concern with the dis injections is getting um an infection in the disc to the skin cuz you can clean it perfectly and sometimes still there's we actually do a needle first that goes before the disc and then we put a needle inside the needle so it never touches the actual skin oh wow you know that's our uh they don't even do that in in the US but um that's how serious we take infections menitis or is that well in the US they don't take as many precautions as we take in Mexico for injecting disc so when you do a uh an epidural injection with cortisone for a disc they just go directly into your disc they clean it really good yeah but um they they're still going to go directly into your disc with the needle we don't do that we do the needle right and and we we do a needle in the skin and put it right before the disc and then we put a needle inside the needle so the needle that actually goes in your disc has never touched the skin just in case there's some staff that hasn't or uh you know any type of infection that yes isn't hasn't been cleaned off um CU you're going to get one in a thousand or so infections per you know for injections like that yeah so um we've had two out of we' we've had two infections in about three years and that's probably with I'm going to guess between 6 and 10,000 injections and uh we haven't had any infection since we started that new way of doing it too oh wow and you do that with the intal oh we do that with the um we do that with the disc injection so for her her disc okay but not the inal I had to check on the intal uh the reason I know this technique is because it's because we do like intal we only might do 20 a year so I haven't actually walked and watched the procedure like uh the disc injections we're doing so many couple every yeah every week yeah we do 15 patients average three discs so that's 45 a week MH of that one yeah you see a you see a lot of those yeah definitely so um but yeah man I mean that the the infections on the skin uh was probably just your immune system wasn't fighting it off for whatever reason yeah and uh yeah the ozone it's a great immune modulator uh it's really good at killing viruses it's pretty good at killing bacterias um and it's really good at just kind of resetting your immune system to go and and fight stuff off yep so um yeah it's good stuff man huge huge ozone fan how many times have you been back for have have you been to TJ for for stem cells um twice twice twice yeah okay and that's was uh did you do in eal both times yes I did okay cool and the and the second time too we did shoulders um wrist and uh intravenous nice how how's all that uh how's that going going for you yeah so it was kind of crazy when I did the first time down in Mexico I did the ineal and I did intravenous and you know it was it was crazy cuz this is when I had a bad thyroid I was I was hypo I was taking medication every single day I had been on medication for probably four five years before that um probably four yeah somewhere around there I'd been on medication for a while and I went down there and after I got the intal it was crazy because I did the intal and that night bro my head felt like it was going to explode like it was like because they told me when the stem cells hit damaged tissue you have an infl inflamatory response right that's right so obviously I had a lot of damage cells man and it was crazy it took me a while but I felt like I saw clear like think colors were more Vivid and once the pain went away I felt so much better and honestly I think I hindered it a little bit because I went back to training within like a month I should have gave it like five months but I was still like I need to fight I need to fight and uh with the intravenous all of the sudden I was on a fishing trip and my heart I just took my my thyroid medication I felt like my heart was going to explode it's having like heart palpitations and I'm like what is going on I feel weird so I went to my doctor and I was like I went to Joanie and uh her her business partner I was like let's get my blood work done so they took my blood work I flipped from hypo to hyper nice so something was going on so they told me stop taking your medication get rid of that immediately cuz I started with level thyroxine hated it m then I went to Nature throid like more of a natural one it was okay it sucked still and now I'm Hy bir so I feel different and uh I'm off medication so then we gave it it was probably another 8 months and I went back to you guys and then probably like a year year and a year and a halfish time frame from the first stem cell treatment got my blood work taken been off medication for about a year and a half leveled out awesome best best I've ever best I've had in probably seven years awesome man incredible yeah that is incredible incredible results man yeah we see weird stuff like that yeah like that wasn't expected you didn't expect that we didn't expect that for you yeah but it's pretty darn cool yeah well I mean you guys I knew the you know when you do it intravenous those stem cells are going to go points of inflamation I have a nodule here you know it's so they probably went there and over time especially if you're eating healthy and you're letting those stem cells survive well you're going to you're going to have those results man and it comes five six a year down the line and uh yeah and then obviously I went again and and you know I mean I was bad like I was to the point where I told you guys like I was stuttering I was forgetting where I was my sense of direction was gone um I would have days where I would just feel so foggy like and now just I would say the past 3 four months I've felt the best I've ever felt awesome yeah praise God because it was it was like wow like I was like am I going to be like this the rest of my life and like I don't declare it anymore like I'm Healed I declare that because um a lot of people with brain injuries you know they say they deal with it their whole life and yeah I might feel some days a little weird but who doesn't sure at least I tell myself that I I declare that I'm Healed you know I'm on Amazing regiment with Hive Health my wife's um business and and uh I'm doing peptides lots of peptides I'm a big believer in peptides and um yeah man I'm feeling the best I felt in so long and you know will I fight again potentially um it is a big risk because of everything I went through and killing it in crypto right now so it's kind of like man I and and I want to be a business uh you know I want to start a business I want to we're going to buy a ranch I want to start this treatment center um you know I want to I've seen so much of the revolving door where I want to find something where people come to it and they experience true change sure absolutely teach them the skills teach them how how to run a business teach them you know how to cope with their emotions train them MMA make them work A Hard Day's work on the ranch like let them really understand what A Hard Day's Work is and and and uh of course you know show them you know how how how God can heal them from their addictions and you know I believe it can create and train them MMA and I believe it could create Champions I believe it can really change people's lives because I see what these treatment centers doing I see what the prisons are doing and we can do better and I can do better well I mean you know and for you man I mean like you're at a point where and this is just from the outside I'm not saying this is what to do this is just my we're talking here but if you don't have to fight for money yeah and you are getting you know you have brain injury what are you fighting for yeah you know especially you got a great wife you've got you know you're you have a vision of how to help other people which you know that's to me there's nothing cooler doing than that I understand what it's like to want to keep fighting I I still want to have a fight like I totally get it by the way I haven't fought in over 20 years yeah I know but I still do I'm still like maybe I'm I'm 42 I could do like come on man come on but um you know with the brain injury and you got your feeling so good now and you know it's like uh you know and you're making money with crypto like what what is the driver be behind that where where do you see yourself right now with that um it's just like I truly felt like I felt like uh I didn't accomplish what I set out for you know I won a World title in LFA but I it was always the UFC belt mhm and it just I felt like it was just like rug pulled from me and it was like it was very hard to come to concept and really questioning what what God's plan was for it because you know these guys I'm beating up in the gym they're Main Events now they're you know I was right there talent wise like skill-wise like especially if I had my thyroid and sure and everything on point like like I was inches from beating these guys like like one move and and and guys I was beating in practice are now doing so well and winning world titles which I'm happy for but I'm just like man like I know I could have you know like accomplish that so that's that's the only thing I like to finish when I start got it and I felt God was called me to be a World Champ and you know I could have used that platform and you know I've had all these movie opportunities about my life I've had a I've had a deal in my email for the past couple years but I want it to be um I don't want to just sign my life rights over for a couple thousand bucks of course and have them just run with it I want to be in control and I want to do it the right way because I don't want it to glorify the bad stuff I want to show the Redemption side because we all know look at this country this country needs Redemption a lot of people need Redemption we need a great Redemption Story and there's nothing like it and I think a movie like that a story like that in the public I think could really you know help a lot of people's lives and definitely entertain people well absolutely I mean there's it's it's like the the ultimate Heroes Journey you know where you've been through uh hell and you know found your faith came back and are doing you know doing good things making a difference being a good a good person yeah you know and it is I think it's a it's the ultimate Redemption story you know you've uh you've overcome a lot most people would be dead now or complete junkies and um you know you've got something in you that uh doesn't you know says no I'm I'm better than that you've found an amazing wife you've got the relationship with God and so I mean that's what living ultimately is is really about yeah and so um you know but that's why I wanted to have you on the podcast I'm like we got to tell tell your story to our audience and um you know more and more people definitely need to hear it and um I thing is awesome man I'm I'm inspired just hearing you so yeah awesome man well I appreciate you having me on and you know you're definitely you you're doing such great things with uh your treatment center and you know the stem cells and I don't know if you guys are still involved with the the cancer treatment oh yeah stuff but like that was that really touched me man like I got to go share my testimony up there but I walked away with more because I'm over here complaining about my life oh why can't I fight I got a concussion and these people are fighting for their lives literally and that was like wow so um you know it's amazing your success but what also you're doing to help people survive and that program is it was really cool man oh thanks man yeah the cancer part we're actually with the renovation uh we we open that back around July okay and we've built uh the best the best lab in the world for solid tumor cancers so next Generation sequencing Optical genome mapping proteomics digital pathology um the largest tumor panel right now in the United States is about 630 genes ours is going to be 1,20 wow almost double the largest you can get in America plus all the other stuff that we're doing with the testing and um so uh it's about it's going to be it's going to be awesome when we're done but uh the the stem cells have been a big blessing cuz it's uh funded all the cancer research and all the Big Dreams of how do we how do we create the best diagnostic facility in the world for solid tumor Cancers and this is like you God just lay this one out like here you go we're going to make this stem cell thing really big for you yeah um and it's going to you know here's your answer yeah it wasn't that the the story of how you guys started it when was it your parents that yeah my mom my mom yeah we didn't have any options in the United States for her ra and um uh I told you the Ia gain story and how and I said well what else is out there if this uh isn't available in the in the United States but can help people what else is in another country so uh my mom had failed all standard of care she broke her back on a short fall um because of the medications she got multiple staff infections because it was suppressing her immune system she got tuberculosis so she was and um so it's and the ra had started to attack her organs um and so I'd read a study on something called col's toxins for rhe arthritis and uh it was from 1923 oh wow and so I was like that makes sense though so there was a hospital in Mexico that had it but it wasn't available anywhere else in the world and so uh we went to f look at this Hospital and it had closed 2 years before so Scotty and Dedrick and I we found the original owner bought the hospital from him my mom came in in a wheelchair uh we hirb back the original staff my mom came in a wheelchair and left three weeks later walking and she's been in remission now for almost 9 years wow so that was the Catalyst behind it all that's incredible it's cool man it's a blessing and so yeah and then MMA is what's real and what's not real like so we had a front row seat to you know people say there's like a conspiracy for cancer cure like I don't believe believe it because like literally we've tried everything you can think of like there is nothing that like your research got too ar oh yeah big so from the alternative side though to the you know next level science side we're we're working on and that's with the new buildout with our Labs that we're building we're going to be able to do what's called car T cells tumor infiltrating lyes like the the immunotherapy treatments that are in clinical trial right now that match genetics and stuff like that that's you know that's what we're going to be able to do in this next iteration of of of the hospital but um yeah I mean that's that's what it is I mean it's uh you know we have tried everything though and you know I do I also know that you know some things do work not every time though I don't know of a cure for cancer because cancer is an a disease and you can treat two people with the same cancer uh the same same way and one person will respond the next person will and you're like what's going on yeah so um it's pretty complicated but you know it's been overall it's been an awesome Journey yeah and we're almost nine years in August wow and uh you know it's been it's wild to look back now yeah no doubt man it's really cool thank you for that and you know um I think uh you know your story is uh you know in many ways a lot more inspirational than anything I it's it's different but but it's it's just it is this hero's journey I guess we both share the hero's journey um but it's like it's one that the world needs to hear and yeah just keep doing what you're doing man I remember we're at uh I see you in Miami last week or two weeks ago week and a half ago or so yeah and uh I was like oh hey can I buy you a drink like no I don't drink oh sorry about that yeah but um you know and all of the your story like hit me I remember like oh oh oh oh oh I had these oh moments of that yeah and um you know it's cool man I I think there's a lot of addicts right out there right now in the United States it's getting worse and worse and yeah you know it's just it's it's wild times as you said the United States the country needs healing you know we need Redemption yes we do and uh you know to get out there and tell your story and one day uh it wouldn't surprise me if everybody knew it man yeah absolutely man that's my goal man we're going to start a podcast just sharing testimonies and that's going to kind of be the Catalyst for the treatment center it's all going to connect in and eventually when the treatment center is going we're going to have people share their story on the podcast and it'll be kind of a uh you know a revolving door in a good way where it's it's you know they're going to hear a testimony and they're going to feel hope and then they're going to go to this treatment center and then they're going to become the testimony so that's what God's been calling me to do and me and my buddy who is a complete junkie shooting up sold his car thought he was going to die completely changed his life around we're going on a mission trip to Panama um we're going to witness we're going to fish and then um we're going to go over our game plan for this um this ranch we're going to do awesome man yeah well anything that uh you know I can do or Scotty and drick our team can do to help just let us know we love what you're doing man awesome man appreciate it for on the podcast thank you thank you guys appreciate it