00:00:00 he was getting girls to kill themselves guy named Matthew fder he went by evil mind was his his moniker you've been in countless undercover operations really all over the world confronting child traffickers noral people your bank teller your doctor your lawyer your judge your politician some white man in power of some sort or some loow life that's out there sometimes we have the target the location of potential trafficking it's like a 16-day operation we corrupted the supply chain so by somebody getting caught there is then

00:00:28 fear brought into that whole Supply of that child a child's life is on the line and in your hands it gets hard you know sometimes you just can't get them and it it eats you alive if you don't believe in God after this there's something wrong with you you've been in countless undercover operations and uh really all over the world confronting child traffickers what's it like knowing that a child's life is on the line and in your hands man so there's um there's two ways to look at this right so sometimes you

00:01:04 actually know the victim like and we know sometimes we have the target sometimes we have the location of potential trafficking so it it it gets hard right like there's certain situations and um stories like in Thailand where I've been undercover and I'm talking to a girl and I'm going to come back for him and you know sometimes you you just can't get them and it eats you it eats you alive I think the harder ones are when you have somebody um like a guy named Matthew fder who went by evil mind was his his moniker and he was

00:01:37 getting girls to kill themselves and so he was blackmailing them through the dark web so he would go on a platform called gum tree which is similar to Craigslist to like dog walking and he would pay these young girls and he would act like a woman they would start texing they'd build a relationship he' get them to send some pictures of bras or things like that or some kind of incriminating evidence on them and then he would do a lot of Open Source intelligence what my background was and research their

00:02:02 families and if he didn't if they did not do what he said to do he would then send it to him he was purposely trying to get them to kill themselves and so for 5 years NCA uh Homeland Security and then I got brought into the case um I was in North Carolina I had just left Homeland Security but I would still help on cases you know I was really good at working open source intelligence back then or creative ways of getting data that we shouldn't have access to like kind of breaking Facebook and other

00:02:33 things MH and they were like hey just come sit on this call and listen in and so this agent Jim I'll leave him special agent Jim we'll call him and he's like just sit in the room don't say anything and it's like FBI NCA HSI and it's all around the world we have victim now in in North Carolina and they couldn't find him for five years and then they talk all this for this long talk and then at the end he's like hey I got I got a a guest here that wants to say something Glenn what do you have to say and I'm like

00:03:01 completely blown off everybody is quiet I just made a comment like I don't care how bad this guy thinks he is we're going to [ __ ] find him mhm and from that point it was insane like they gave me like I had the whole case File of five years I mean we went back to Old School of like I had massive whiteboards in my office at the time and I would just plot out every email when we didn't know where he was in the world right we had we had a feeling maybe because of some accent that he was in the UK and I

00:03:28 would had to find the time so we we pl out the times of when he was active first when he was sleeping when he was replying we're like there's a solid chance that he's in the UK um and then we thought potentially he was some kind of educated individual or professor of somebody of some sort and then it was get creative so we looked at uh could we find hackers that could hack um um BLC media player could we send them a payload we're not going to do it right we created creative ideas you're working

00:03:57 with law enforcement so you can find out like this network of IND idual I have in my network and say hey could we do this do that people get creative and we send the plan back to law enforcement they can get it blessed off on and they can do the attack or whatever it may be so just going through and I read every single email for every kid pleading and crying and you know like I could just see all Communications from back and forth and like you want to just see evil like I mean it still messes you up

00:04:26 thinking about them yeah it's so it's like you see this evil in these individuals and these poor kids they have no help they have no reason to talk to their mom and I think one of the most important things with your children is to make sure that they know that they can talk to you right so these guys that go and manipulate these children and how pure evil they are and what it turned out was I talked to some like very high-profile billionaires hacker I had found some stuff in The Matrix there was a header in an

00:04:54 email that just fell off I knew he was on a Windows PC I knew a bunch of other things that he was operating on I slly start these little breadcrumbs and it was this one piece of data that that they had um and I sent it off and the guy came back and he's like hey is this tied to a guy named evil mind and I have never given him the username cuz I can't I couldn't share like data from the case but I could share the like some bid bits and he did and so um and the guy was like Hey how do I know you're not going

00:05:19 to violate privacy if I help you out and I was like I'll get on a plane like pulled up my phone I was like I'll get on a plane right now I'll be in LA in you know 6 hours whatever it is and so he agrees to help we pass it off and we pass it off to um the NCA gchq um every special agent got the gchq medal of the Year award and we got an email it said thank you you know and so when you go back to like the victim side is he was just one guy of part of a ring wait so uh what happened with this guy he got the largest

00:05:48 sentence in UK history for any pedophile so it was in it was in the UK yeah he was a geophysicist I think out of Cambridge wow yeah you look it up Matthew fder is's a he's an evil son of a [ __ ] you see him and hopefully unfortunately he's going to see the light again cuz if UK laws really yeah he'll get out I mean he this is the first time a case was ever consecutively like technically he should have got five years because if they tried in the in the UK and please don't quote me on this but this is how it was was like if you

00:06:17 do the ACT even though you have enough for 100 years they can only try you for that one act and they can only give you like five years so for to get like 36 years that it was I think it was um it was huge wow um for it yeah and so like so those victims that you have from that side like I just I think about these little girls all the time and and I have I have young girls myself of like hoping to God that you know they'll communicate with me to not have those Seekers with those individuals to not build that

00:06:44 trust with random people online um for it so you get the cyber side and then you get the on theground side where you know when I went to Bangladesh you know long story short I got I rescued a girl on BBC World News where I had to figure out like we knew trafficking was existing in Bangladesh refugee camps M like foreigners were going in and basically buying kids and we had communication from the dark web uh this guy um I don't want to say his username but DARPA had created and grabbed this information BBC

00:07:15 was working with DARPA and this guy gave a rat line perfectly of how to bring kids back to the US so instead of um going having sex with a kid bring your own sex slave back home wow and you would fly to I don't want to give the details in the rat line but he would give this rat line of go here do this play this person do that and so um BBC called me up I knew some people at DARPA they talked about it I go up to DARPA for the meeting they're like got this information I was like I don't even know

00:07:40 where Bangladesh the [ __ ] is but I was like let's go it's like 2016 and you know I went it was like a 16a operation and you kind of proved you we corrupted the supply chain so by somebody getting caught MH there is then fear brought into that whole supply chain of that child so I got a 15-year-old girl out um by acting exactly like they were saying so and and so they were bringing kids back to America that's what they were talking about in the dark web they were giving very detailed like of how to get

00:08:09 them back through the US their IDs won't get checked here yeah it was I mean it was a it's a hard case wow yeah for it so it's like this whole thing about bringing your own sex slave home and kids being locked up and yeah it it does exist I mean I've seen these guys communicating now now whether that's a fantasy the gu's talking about it but he was given a full international travel guide a lot of people say that there's not a real problem with sex trafficking in the United States and you know it was interesting to me you know

00:08:42 because we started working on or Scott dck and I started working um with the um operation light shine you know when it was first when when it first started we had uh helped fund a documentary that Nick naton did um called it's happening right here um talking about the the trafficking in the US and so we're very involved and then all of a sudden it became political like if you are suggesting there's child trafficking going on or that's a problem you're a conspiracy theorist and I never thought that there would be a debate over uh how

00:09:23 important it is to fight against child trafficking um so I ask you as someone who's worked obviously as close as anyone in the in in the field uh how much child trafficking do you think is going on right now in the United States look it's massive um why do we have so many missing kids every year what you think kids are just disappearing you know how hard it is if I wanted to evade the feds and the IRS like not just disappearing right like it's so hard nowadays with all the digital and kids aren't just missing and

00:09:57 Vanishing and you're not finding the bodies anymore right it's there is some serious trafficking going on I think there's just different levels of it there's prostitution from age 16 where they get them on drugs they bring them in there's missing kids there's guys that are traveling abroad that doing it there's guys that are you know sex trafficking but also raping their kids at home right the the amount of child abuse that happens during covid I want to say in the north Northeast region or Southeast region from they're talking

00:10:23 about charlot when I was talking with Homeland Security in the first four months we had a million plus intake of IP addresses and violations of child these are like anything from infants to teenagers being raped M so during that period of time so you have this this huge demand that are people are just um consuming this material now I would say if you look at the political system and why it is political I think if you look at the numbers why do we spend $2.2 billion to protect our children from drugs but we

00:10:56 spend a $100 million to protect to protect their innocence mhm yeah right and they cut $20 million out like don't obviously don't quote me on the exact number I was told there's $20 million was cut out of the child crimes and 200 million was cut out of like the DEA budget so you have what 200 you have two billion for it and we have 80 million for we're talking federal state locals I feel like those numbers should be reversed I feel like we should be spending $2 billion dollar for anyone that is raping a child because if we

00:11:29 want to look at just political like take out like what is right and what is wrong a child that is raped and abused like they you know how hard it is to heal that yeah and what do they do in society you know they're saying there's studies and research that then potentially they become the abusers yeah right and and so and if they don't then you know they get like you see guys that are fighting it because now they're in the fight because they were like there's so many different levels of when a child's innocence is removed of what it

00:11:58 does to society and we spend the least amount of money on that look at what we spend internationally in these Foreign Wars and everything else like why are we not protecting I just had a meeting um last week or two weeks ago with a few Senators that really care about this that want to make a change and make a statement and get money behind this cause um and see I'm trying the Timo Foundation they're trying they're up on Capitol Hill there's people today they talking to senate about this issue it's

00:12:24 just I always use this example of um in India you know girls being raped by 18 men gang rapes all the time and then the people rose up you know a million people marched on the capital 2 million people marched now they have death sentences when was the last time you heard about an 18y old 18y old or 18 guys raping a young girl yeah you don't absolutely because fear you have to fear the only reason we don't kill people is not because of other other reasons except you're afraid to go to jail yeah right

00:12:53 and so if you don't have those strict penalties those strict fears then people are going to do it yeah you know it's interesting because I'm all for uh EAS making the drug laws you know more reasonable sentence wise like the mandatory minimum federal federal uh mandatory minimum drug laws are are insane to me but the idea that you're going to go light on violent offenders especially sex crime offenders especially those that are abusing children is insane to me it it it's it's it it doesn't make any common sense and

00:13:34 to me it shows that there's probably something behind that because maybe those that are pushing these laws have a bunch of friends in that field I would 100% agree with you the I mean you see it through party lines but we would know we would have a case um where individual was you know like downloading sharing child sexual abuse material we tried in Western District of North Carolina he's getting his 20 years whatever it is we go to Middle District North Carolina he's getting off you're like you know

00:14:08 how's how what's going on here what what's going on here you know like are you sympathetic to pedophilia like I don't know it pretty much seems like it because that's an infant being raped yes yeah like why would you not and and they use the excuse I think some of these judges and I think one of the women's that they were nominating for the Supreme Court was they didn't think it was U an issue because it is a a non interactive crime or non- Hands-On offense where they're just consuming it and watching it but the videos they're

00:14:36 watching are some child you're by consuming it you're creating the demand somebody's paying for that that's why I didn't get into crypto I've been I've been on crypto for ever I was just morally because I've been doing this since 2012 or 2014 like I couldn't get into crypto because there's so many pedophiles that got rich because they were all trading their material based on bitcoin I see all of them like there's so many Rich pedophiles from the cryptos if they kept their coins and everything like that but it was one of those things

00:15:05 where they were just funneling this money and they were going into it and creating this demand so there's these different series that are created that go through and it's not a they say it's a victimless crime because they're just watching it but if I like blondes and I'm watching blonde porn I'm going out to a bar and I see a blonde what am I going to do yeah I'm going to try to fill my need MH that's exactly what it is and so he may not have abused a child yeah cuz he's just watching these videos

00:15:30 but the second he gets left home with his niece sure he's going to explore that fantasy yeah right that neighbor's kid comes over for a sleeper he's going to explore that fantasy right it's just it's just a matter of time well and you know I think that they're pushing towards normalizing pedophilia I think there is a group and you know it's interesting because if you said how many you know I don't know what the percentag is and let's say 10% 20% uh are trying to normalize it but it's the other 30%

00:16:00 that might go along with it someday because they're so easily influenced into just doing what's virtuous or is virtue signaling you know well but it's not right um you know and these people just have an illness and we should treat it like an illness and you know we see how good we do at treating mental illness in this country um and so uh I felt like a lot of what we're seeing with the Trans agenda and uh with the lgbtq rights and I'm not against uh you know gay marriage or not saying that gay people are bad by any means but that

00:16:33 movement really got co-opted by uh you know this trans agenda and I don't think it's the same thing I don't think um you know the the debate of a child transitioning before they're 18 is the same as uh gay rights I don't see it as the same thing at all um but I feel like they're doing that because they more the more they normalize certain sex ual uh uh preferences they then take it further and further and eventually eventually they want to go after the kids I I couldn't agree with you more I I liken

00:17:10 it very much to the Second Amendment battle that we have the reason why the right won't give up even though we all agree that probably some training needs to happen and things like that but the second we won't give an inch is because we know they'll take a mile yes right and so with that that's exactly what they're doing they're like oh it's okay we just have to give rights they have to be in the same bathroom with them right like this started this is a Playbook written from I don't know if it's Soros

00:17:35 or who but is exactly step by step exactly like you just said let's just do a little bit and just do a little bit more just do a little bit now we're in California they're seizing their kids if you don't agree with them chopping their genitals off and which is insane if they would have had that headline five years ago we wouldn't but like you said they slowly start doing it they slowly start pulling it away and next you you know they normalize this what it minor attractive person they think that is okay and I man

00:18:07 it's I would say it is 100% demonic I don't care if people are religious or spiritual they don't believe in God you can watch some of these interviews you can look inside these guys eyes there it's pure evil it is pure evil of like they're torturing like I got a call like two weeks ago and it's a one-month old and they the federal government could not find where this individual was and they're like hey do you have any ideas and I'm like a one month-old and it's not about even sexually it's physically torturing

00:18:44 right like that is the amount of evil I know this is hard to say but it's like that is that's the level you're talking about here with pedophilia yeah right like that is the level of these individuals the this is pure evil this is good vers evil and then like it was crazy cuz when I before started this fight like I was an atheist and uh this cop in Houston was like he uh he said to me he's like this is before I got into like I was getting into my forensic school because I went through a special

00:19:10 pipeline where they teach you for 12 weeks and like four of the weeks are about the psychology behind pedoph pedophilia and all these things and World experts come in and this uh cop says to me I'll never forget he's like he's like if you don't believe in God after this work he's like there's something wrong with you because he's like once you see that level of evil you know there's that level of good uh for I thought it was a very powerful statement it took me time and years to come to Christ eventually but you know it was

00:19:36 just one of those things was like yeah and then you see these people and you're like holy [ __ ] like they're walking around near us and these aren't people on drugs yeah these are normal normal people that are I don't know you're Bank tell teller you're doctor your lawyer your judge your politician you know like some white man in power of some sort yeah um yeah or some low life that's out there but how did you get involved in this like what's what's your uh what's your military background yeah so I worked I

00:20:06 was like infantry and then I worked Counter Intelligence human intelligence counter terrorism I you know worked uh Intel over like a tier one D you know just regular Intel stuff um and then 2014 I got medically retired and for me I'm very uh I guess you would say anti-war you know I think Iraq was complete [ __ ] I lost a lot of friends from it and I was drinking the Kool-Aid for so long and then eventually I stopped drinking the Kool-Aid yeah you know I I saw some things after you know like in the counter terrorism world

00:20:37 where I'm like why aren't we killing these people we have where they're at and like it was all politically motivated we weren't doing things if the polls were down or they were down we were doing things and it really opened my eyes to Iraq being [ __ ] you know Afghanistan I thought we should have went in and killed and got out um but we just lost a lot of lives and but I had a very like I was very talented at hunting individuals down and being creative and Innovative and so um you know I saw this

00:21:04 like Discovery Channel about like this Halo core this dude got hit in the face of like machete rescuing this kid I was like that's [ __ ] cool I was like I was like I want to go take these skill sets and like rescue a kid I want something that is very black and white I want to get out of the gray and uh so I like Googled and this is back in 2014 there was like nothing out there I think o had just started um at that point in time Tim just left and he was going over there to start o and I wrote to them

00:21:31 didn't get anything back and then I went into a special program where they took Special Operations soldiers Intel support operators and trained you in digital forensics to then watch digital forensic [ __ ] so I already had mobile I've been doing mobile forensic since 2005 in the Intel world and so it was an easy transition to go into that and it's a one year onid so I packed my whole family up I was a single dad at the time brought my kids I had to stay in North Carolina cuz cussing my kids I had at

00:22:00 the time and uh moved to Charlotte did the full year on paid and like man like 3 months in I was just like I can't do this like I had like the worst anxiety I could no longer bathe my kids I could no longer like I was dying on the inside so I was like I really want to and I was being creative I was like the agents I was working with love me I was terrible at writing reports but I was really good at like thinking of Clues and how to go about it so I was they they actually offered me a direct hire special agent

00:22:30 cuz I was like I'm not doing this friend I want to be an agent and then that took time to get that direct hire because DC this is during the freeze so they had to make this special exception they were going to make me an agent all these things and then uh an agent for what Homeland Security I see yeah it was like a go I was like I want to be a federal agent I'm going to do this work everything like that and so they made an exception Homeland Security leadership were like yeah we'll hire you as a

00:22:52 special agent and then so it takes like three months or it took like a long time cuz it weird during the like sequence Wester whatever that hell is going on during that period of time and during that time I started working with uh operation Underground Railroad and I W up going like undercover in eight different countries in a year all over the world and we had guys that couldn't be found that was Finding like we were installing cameras in their places working with like these governments I was like this is amazing like you just

00:23:21 not have all the [ __ ] and have all the fun and you know your your left limit is like really just working with the police and not getting arrested and doing things legally and then so I was like undercover in Haiti and Nicaragua and Thailand so it really was one of those things where it was like I was getting results I was seeing people getting captured and kids being rescued so um that's kind of like what started me to get into that work really was to thrive the adrenaline rush the addiction the seeing the helping yeah yeah you've

00:23:51 worked in 16 countries now how do you adapt so quickly to the different cultures when you're Undercover you know like people always ask me like like I travel around where I get I get that often like how do you you go in I would say man like I think 90% of the world we're all the same you know like we all we're all the same I think we there's always you know 10% [ __ ] in every country you go to there's some really good people but everyone for the most part is really nice if you go in with a smile if you go in happy as in

00:24:23 helping they want you to be there right they want your support and when you take somebody like my team's background and you take them to a foreign country where they could never afford US you know I was training every three-letter agency around the world from the UK to Europe all these countries I they would pay me a lot of money to come train them on these techniques and then I'm giving them to free to like this local cop like in Ecuador I train like these 27 cops in Ecuador we're like we're still friends

00:24:51 like they still call me and they they loved it and like live in class uh I got a lead that came in from this girl this like three-year-old was being raped and they were like what we we pause class right there they got to see what you're made of found the girl where she lived they rescued her that night like kicked in the door got him and like so you build those relationships person and every one they go they drink some cesas you hang out like you all have the the bond with each other um from like I yeah

00:25:17 I think like every country I've been to from Haiti to you know recently on the borders of Gaza and things like that like there's everyone's pretty much the same as long as you go in there I think Americans make the problem is they're so cocky and arrogant like 30% of Americans have passports like you should and you walk in these countries and you think that you own it or you're better than them if you humble yourself and you walk through a refugee camp and you are just very grateful of who you are and where

00:25:42 you come from it you're you have an amazing time everywhere you go yeah um you've talked about the emotional toll uh that working in child trafficking uh uh rescues has on uh people yeah describe the toll uh that that's taken on you yeah man like obviously you still see it like it gets me choked up when I talk about certain things because like I'm a very I'm I have a photographic memory so it makes me really good at my job um and so like when I talk about certain things they just flash up and you you can't really get rid of it now

00:26:20 for the emotional toll people were like oh you go go talk to a shrink there was no talking to a shrink cuz like dude if like I ret talk this I'm [ __ ] you up you like you know like I'm messing you up or like I don't want to push that negative energy like that you're holding on to on that individual cuz you don't want to even like if I had to describe some of the stuff that you see it would really ruin youh you would then get those triggers and so it's like you push it so you're like what what are your

00:26:43 options you know they'll try giving you all these other things to just kill who you are as a person like the Z lofs and I did all that during the military time when they load you up when you get out because you're you think you're depressed but you're really not you're just finding your new way um for me was plant medicine you know I uh I was crazy CU I was supposed to go undercover to Kito Peru and the number one thing there was this thing called iasa and like we're idiots I'm like yo we'll just go

00:27:09 down there we'll do some [ __ ] iasa and we'll be Undercover the next day I had [ __ ] no idea what it was luckily this was like two days before Co we we were getting down there and then the US government was shutting up so we flew back so we never did the Iowa I see and so you fast forward seven months I'm like I'm at a really low spot like CO's happening like all my companies are on the ropes now cuz I have defense contract companies I have all these things and I have my nonprofit but like I'm not working

00:27:38 undercover I'm not getting my soul filled or my bank account filled and I was just at a low point I'm like all right I'm going to manage all this and uh the iasa came back to my brain and they said the medicine's called you so I flew down I went to um this place called saltera it was like a high-end place and after my second ceremony it completely just like took all the weight from them like I still have some of it like it doesn't cure you but it just took I think like 90% of that weight off of my

00:28:06 shoulders yeah um really gave me that cleansing that I needed um and so that started my plant medicine Journey so I've done like 14 iasa ceremonies over a two-year period Then I I went into like San Pedro I went into iboga I went into buffo like I I feel like there and mushrooms I feel like there is a medicine depending on what you're going through right I think what was the San Pedro like it is amazing you have to come do it with me it is they call it God's LSD okay it is a high I I it is a very it's like a loving father um wuma

00:28:40 is what they call it down in Peru I did it in the sacred valleys of the Incas so I'm in this like mountain range all the clouds are rooll in you're outside and you're [ __ ] druming beats and there's fire and it's like amazing it's just it's love but it's also you know one time I did I died a thousand times like it was like a very like I took a huge dosage of it and it is very powerful I mean I was bleeding out my nose I was like you throw well so with you take the cactus like the first two hours your stomach is kind of going

00:29:11 through the process yeah U for it but it was like it really breaks you like down but then it is so much love it's it really is like if you ever you know they say like um iasa or like LSD or like mushrooms just like you know kind of watching TV M you know IAS is like you're in the [ __ ] TV yeah with I think with Sam pager you get both you can go from like just being outside in the grass growing on you and like feeling amazing to like oh [ __ ] like really some deep learning I think it's the most underrated plant medicine out

00:29:45 there yeah how long is that uh experience so you do three ceremonies um I do with with really a guy named Bernard um he has and Neil's and Frankie like I love them they they've post all my Retreats cuz I usually do a private retreat or I'll do a custom one down there and they are some of the best healers and facilitators awesome yeah they they go through it and so the the ceremony itself can last anywhere from like 8 to 12 usually like 8 to nine hours and you do it during the daytime um for it and then you do usually two or

00:30:15 three ceremonies in a week's period of time wow in between that you're doing you know sweat sweat tents and other other things and breath work and other things so I try to do at least one Retreat a year depending on what I think I need to going into the following year the next year yeah yeah I've never done San Pedro I heard it was like an MDMA of of plant medicine say they call it God's LSD interesting yeah it's it's the best one and and so you say the ceremon is eight or nine hours but how long is the

00:30:44 actual you know uh strong effects yeah you're talking probably like four to six seven okay it's it's it's a long one it's longer compared compared to like IBO it's not well compared to IB that's I compare everything to IBO he can't like that one's a whole different animal we both got killed by that one oh my gosh yeah I did Iain three different times three yes and uh you know the first time and and by the the the place I did there a place called aboga quest uh my friend Barry runs it um he's an

00:31:17 older guy a lot of wisdom yeah um just a great great man and uh you know I did it for my my opiate issue from like I think it was like probably 2008 2009 and uh went down there I was pretty skeptical but I'd watched a couple documentaries I'm like you know what I'll give it a try and I'd got I blew my knee and got uh addicted to the the pain pills from the the doctors and a therapist said hey go go down there and uh you Google I again and check it out I'm like hm yeah let's let's give it a try so um you know

00:31:51 I did it and it was deeply deeply introspective and it was so long and uh but I was home 72 hours later never had a withdrawal never had a craving and then I did two more times and uh just for psychospiritual but the third time basically spit me out and I'll never do it again but uh so yeah I compare all the psychedelics to IO game I man it's uh you know I think they all have their own Spirit as they say and like that I iboga like ioan comes from iboga which comes from the African tree rout um for

00:32:28 it and like I completely agree with you anything with addiction like my kids anybody ever goes through it I'm flying them down doing IU game with like I have done iboga I've done it and that that rocked me pretty pretty good you know like for me like I had to find a healthy relationship with alcohol like and that like highlighted it I didn't realize it it was like Hey if you keep going this way and I have an anti-hangover company it's like you keep being an idiot like you're going to get it I felt like it

00:32:54 like ioga was like an old wise grandpa that just is like hard smacks you and just gives it to you as raw as it can yeah um bore it but I I it's the first place I take anybody for addiction I struggle I was a I got they put me on eight perets a day and man I I quit that thing cold turkey and I'm was killing myself off of it it was the most horrific time of my life well I mean the idea that they would put you on eight perco sets a day I mean you're an addict in four weeks at that point there's no

00:33:24 there's no getting off of it without going through a horrible withdraw yeah and you know the the op it takes time yeah it's GNA yeah well I mean you're looking at what three to seven days um you know three days intense but then you're going to have you know it's it's it's bad and that was my issue is uh I just couldn't get over that withdrawal that's what I told the therapist I'm like you know I'm functional running my companies but I want to have a I'd rather have a clear brain and deal with the pain than a foggy brain uh and no

00:33:50 pain and you know uh it worked really really well that's saying like if you got if you went and did that didn't have the withdrawals like phenomenal I was stuck for 5 days like just sitting there worst 5 days longest 5 days of my life of going through it and people don't like why why are we sending all these homeless down to Mexico right like how much they spent like2 billion do in California it was more than that it was an average I averaged out it was around $150,000 per homeless person they spent

00:34:25 per homeless person you could put a center on every corner of iaan oh yeah and would you would have no homeless CU most of them are addicted yeah most of them have child traumas yeah right like it's the problem solved like you say but also there's until a politician has a cut into the ibigan clinic yeah they're not going to fun all the money you know I mean like we just start rewarding you know the politicians so they get paid if they open IA Clinic then it would be all everywhere right exactly yeah I mean

00:34:53 it's uh IBO gain works really well there's no you know you know it know it I've experienced it you've experienced it um and it's a it's sad that something like that isn't available you know for addicts especially considering the you know the crisis that we have right now um all the stuff coming through our Southern border with the with the fenyl the opiate uh epidemic that you know really happened uh because Purdue Pharma was just greedy evil people yeah that uh I mean they murder I look it as murder murdered millions of people with

00:35:30 their marketing techniques they generationally changed families yes right I mean the only reason I knew I was an addict cuz I was watching drug Inc MH and all these guys were saying they're on heroin because they started on perco setes and I look down I'm like I'm on perco setes yeah you're like that's where it goes to next thing you know I'm you know [ __ ] on the streets and like how many families are ruined because they were making money in INF incentivizing doctors to give these pills yes yeah yeah they had specific

00:35:57 key words uh they would use um for the doctors to say I forget what what those words were hey can you look that up Warren uh Purdue Pharma is like not safe and effective but something about pain I saw it in the documentary I'm like oh man I heard the doctor tell me that before and there was like a sheet that would give you different levels and if somebody's an addict at that point they're going to want more and more and more yeah and it started you know uh for most people you know with an injury uh

00:36:25 then they'd move you up to oxycoton and then when people couldn't get enough oxycotton then they would go to the streets for heroin That's How Strong the addiction is and I'm thankful uh I I never got that far but um it could have easily been either one of us I think back all the time of like man like God saved me like my kids you know at the time I had a 5-year-old and three-year-old and I was taking care of them at that point in time you know like my first place she's she's amazing woman but she was taking care of herself at

00:36:55 that point in time and so I'm like I look back I'm like holy [ __ ] like that could have been that could have been me and like I grew up in Philly and so and right now if you go to Philly and look at Kensington Avenue it is The Walking Dead and the the Opia crisis the fentanyl crisis the other drugs that they're H are is is absolutely um insane you know but I think it's just uh we were one of the few lucky ones we were yeah I mean I feel like God saved me too multiple times I I look back all the times I

00:37:24 should have been should have been dead um I mean it's it's unbelievable I'm like okay God I think you have a plan for me so I'm going to stick around and do my best to live a a decent life yeah I'm going to keep helping others yeah absolutely well that's the thing you know I feel like that's you know when when you look at like our lives and certain things that we've had to overcome you know it's not just us overcoming it it's something that's bigger than us that's allowing us to get through those things I could agree more

00:37:56 like if I look back at some of the rescues I don't I don't like it's not I don't have an ego from it I'm like God like there's God made that happen yeah you know like the fact like on the like some of the operations where it's like if this didn't go exactly right in this way if I didn't go this way or say this thing that kid's not rescued right right and like you're like I would sit there and like with the Bangladesh I'm just sitting there drinking this hinek at this place after this whole operation

00:38:23 I'm like that's very strange like there's just the odds m ma atically don't make any sense like that guy shouldn't have came here he should have saw that cop you know the whole the whole the whole side of it so you know I I'm a I'm a big believer and I like I was 100% successful in every operation I was going on yeah and I'm like what are the odds of that no like he's he's working through me you know I'm just doing his work absolutely you know and it's like you know I look at now it's like to spread the word you know after I

00:38:52 was baptized of like life is good you know like he has a purpose for you yeah absolutely absolutely when did you become a Christian so last um November um when the whole Gaza operation um I I went solo over there um basically in Gaza uh Rafa the Gaza border crossing yeah so it's Isis territory it's called Alish in Egypt but the the way it kind of started was like it's kind of crazy because I knew like October 7th happened and I was like hey we should start preparing for this um and for us is like

00:39:28 even Ukraine I was there with that when that whole crisis right like I don't play political I don't care I know that there are women and children in war zones that are going to need help we have American citizens that are going to need help I don't care if they're Palestinian I don't care if they're Israeli I don't care whatever I'm going to go to that area so I want up going to Israel um because we I had a team originally that was going to go into Gaza and get these constituents out for Lindsey Graham Mark Wayne Mullen Mitch

00:39:55 McConnell and another one cuz we very tightly with these Senators when there's American stuck so we knew these individuals are going so I go over there and I'm waiting for my team to come and like everyone's getting denied entry like one of my guys couldn't get in there and so then I'm sitting there hanging out in Israel by myself and I'm like I saw real quickly I'm like one there was non-stop like this is this is like a week after so constantly just kind of Rocket barges coming in so I go down to elot and

00:40:24 that's where the three missiles were intercepted those Tom those Cruise Miss were coming in and I'm like this is supposed to be the area never gets hit and they're they're aiming for this thing so I'm like then I went to B I was going out to Beva and they were getting hit so I was like there's really no good area cuz I was trying to be on the border to see if like hey the gates cuz it's more of like a logistical game of like I got these people I need to get them out they're at the gate like let me

00:40:46 work this and so uh there was nothing I could do in Israel they had their thing going on they were still dealing with all the aftermaths of October 7th and so um I had Whispers from my Network CU I still have a very indepth Source network of individuals I could usually call somebody in some place and know somebody and so I got a move Shaker in Egypt I got a move Shaker in Gaza I had a move in Shaker in Israel and kind of just all working this um for it and I had Whispers that I could potentially you

00:41:15 know bribe the E North Egypt border crossing or not bribe or work with somebody in the government and get it there the Egyptian government was amazing uh for that so problem is people don't know this like North EGP Egypt the north canani is a military restriction Zone like no Americans are allowed up there so that's like hurdle one so I have to then ditch all my gear in Israel luckily my Israeli buddies I gave all my plate carrier and everything else night vision goggles all these things we originally planned to go into Gaza and I

00:41:47 uh ditch all my gear I then go by like buggy across the border and go through Egypt get through and pretty easy transition they just stole my sa phone like they didn't steal but they they took it they you're not allowed have Sapp phones there get over to Cairo and then I have to figure out how to get up to the Border I don't want to get in depth of how I did but I got up to Alish it's it was Isis territory at one point it's a pretty dangerous little area and there's one hotel and I'm like sitting at this

00:42:15 Border Town and all of a sudden like there's like three other Americans it's D it's like State Department DS they like who the [ __ ] are you I was like sitting with some cat I'm like I don't know who are you like dude I'm like ain't no trouble here you know just hanging out and uh what boil down to was Rafa was shut down and the reason was shut down is because there was a miscommunication or so I'm not throwing anybody under the bus but there was a road that was supposedly being blown up and we can't get our Americans out for

00:42:44 this reason it was a geopolitical thing that was going on between ambassadors and people so I just went up to the road and took a video of the whole thing and sent it to the Senate M so then you put that in the hands of the Senate all hell broke close and the gates wound up opening cu the road was not broken not blown up oh man but when you're not supposed to have Americans up there or third party Americans yeah I kind of blew the blew the lid off of why why do you think that they were saying like

00:43:12 what was their motive for that uh I don't want to say I don't want to say it was Egypt I don't want to say I want look the Egyptian government they were great people I don't want to you know go into any because I want to go back to the country you know what I mean I'm not trying to um throw anybody under the bus exactly I want to keep it very political all it was was I was able to give evidence to uh set individuals to then give them the power to then cause hell yeah next you know the gate was open up

00:43:40 so then that that was part of so during this whole period of that time the other part is a logistical nightmare because then I have I'm running water food uh transportation to people all in the regions all the Americans are there so I have a full source network of people delivering food and I have to then get them money into Gaza so it's a full logistical thing of them paying them um and it just took years of this is if I didn't have my network from years ago like it was just took keeping those

00:44:06 networks and calling people and then they would he put me in it's like a good old boys network of like vetting and validating so I had that and then that's how I was able to get up there that's how I was able to get people mov so like we wind up getting like Mother Teresa of Gaza out ni yeah we got like 60 I think it was like 60 Americans out I still I was just talking to one yesterday nice like talking to her whole family what were they doing in Gaza at the time they're they're American citizens they

00:44:30 were just they have family over there I see yeah exactly so they're Palestinian Americans that are going over there I I focus only on Blue passports so you know I mean like these are True Blood Americans like if you were over there and stuck course right and um yeah so got the map but we're also looking like what if that gate doesn't open up so there's the Philadelphia Corridor and that's where a lot of ice or a lot of Hamas tunnels were going in for and so you we had people trying to assess them

00:44:57 see where they were if was possible to use them is there boat extractions I mean you're looking at everything and so what wind up happening is to get them out you have qar working with Hamas you have because nobody wanted an American to die nobody wanted a foreigner to die because it looks bad for Qatar and Hamas if they kill an American it looks bad if Israelis kill an American looks bad across the board and it's Egyptian so you had to go through this whole assessment and process basically to get

00:45:23 those people blessed off and get them out and so I it's more of like you know I was hanging out just doing this logistical game checking their passports communicating getting them food and water uh just to be Necessities that they had but this boils down to like why did I get baptized it's like there was there's more to the story that was was going down I was like man if we could pull this off like God like I I'll get baptized and because I had talked like two months prior um with I was fine in

00:45:52 my faith like with Tim tibo I would always ask him for guidance and mentorship and he would always give with get gu and I I said two months prior back in July I was like man if I ever got baptized I wouldn't get baptized in Jordan River and so I'm over there all this is happening and I have this chaos moment where I'm like this is not everything's going south and I was like if you do you know give me a sign and I'm sitting there in the Mediterranean see like sitting in the med 6:00 a.m. North Egypt Border in Alish and I was

00:46:20 like you just gave me a sign and the whole thing just went flat like the wave stopped wow and I'm sitting there and I'm like is this real and I just start laughing like uncontrollably laughing like and I'm sitting like in a pond in the Mediterranean I was like the coincidences are odds or something and then sure enough the next day the Americans were released everything got out um you know CU I'm up there by myself and I'm trying to figure out all these plans you have all the people back here that are chirping and saying all

00:46:50 these things and you know you're you have all this stress of what's going on and that's so I flew to after that I to go for a meeting in Jordan and uh the National Prayer Breakfast that I'm really tight with they called in because the Bethany Beyond was shut down because of the whole crisis they had somebody opened it up and I got like basically a private baptism at John the Baptist like in the Jordan River that's amazing yeah I was like man this is you know I'll tell the story one day yeah um for it and yeah so

00:47:21 just been practicing my faith and you know trying to be better every day and as best you can but I knew that it kind of back to what you said of like your purpose you I feel like some of us are picked and chosen to to lead away or live a life and I used I never got baptized before because I was like I lived years undercover I've you know like I was a Savage back in the day with just being an idiot and I'm like I didn't realize that basically a lot of the Apostles you know were not the best people right right you know they that's

00:47:50 kind of why you live through that life to then go and then you tell your story um after it so yeah that makes sense it's uh you know there's so many coincidences you know that that we've had and to me it's just too many to uh not be real I mean um interestingly Warren had brought me a card this is probably eight months ago 10 months ago um that had the Archangel Michael like uh basically with his foot on the devil's neck and I didn't even really know who Archangel Michael was and uh I kind of heard about it but I

00:48:29 wasn't like familiar and um I was doing a podcast with uh this artist um and the artist uh was Arthur Kwan Lee brought me a painting and it was a painting of the card that Warren gave me 30 minutes before no I mean I've got it up in there I'll show you after the podcast me yeah I mean it's just why I mean what are the odds of that that's impossible mathematically impossible I mean I don't know who Archangel Michael is uh Warren gives me this card I'm like oh and Warren hasn't given me you know other let's call it gifts before so like

00:49:08 oh thank you Warr was very kind you know and um had the prayer of uh Michael on the back and he know it was nice and 30 minutes later Arthur brings in a painting of the exact same image on the card and so um you know to me like uh my inter interpretation of that is god um is protecting me Archangel Michael is protecting me and uh you know to have have something like that happen you know that that that gives me a lot of strength in in tough times and I look at all the times where I've almost been

00:49:43 killed um I got when I was 18 uh we had a home invasion and one guy got shot in the head in uh the backyard of the house that I was staying at he lived and um we were sitting at a party uh at my at my house and uh these girls ran by they have guns I'm like what are you talking about I thought they were just and so I I walk into the den and my uh best friend Byron is getting pistol whipped and the guy turns around at me and start shooting at me and uh you know the next day they ran out and I ran upstairs and

00:50:21 it was uh I went to go get my gun and uh they were gone by the time uh I was back downstairs but uh there was a hole in the bullet door or there was a hole in the door um where the bullets had hit right at head height and I was ducking as I was running by that door God so I mean that's you know one example of what I could say is mini where I'm like I shouldn't be here you should you should like there's no way that guy misses it's not a chance encounter right like shooting that many times you're going

00:50:54 through it statistically you dead yeah yeah yeah yeah there's no way yeah unless there was a plan and purpose for you yeah you know like that was there there's a there's a lot of those and so yeah I'm sure you have a lot of situations like that you're just naming some that uh you know the water gets calm you're hey God uh can I get a sign you know and boom that happens and so and I agree I think that you know we've we've been through a lot and as we're going through it maybe we're not as close to God or you know we're

00:51:26 questioning different things we're searching for uh the true meaning of life and um I feel like he's preparing us to be an even better person because we can relate to the suffering and and the issues that other people are going through yeah like I what is this to say you don't take yeah I like I I couldn't I couldn't agree with you more man like I you're you know they say is like I feel like you get multiple chances mhm you know and I felt like I uh I was getting my last chance to come to him yeah you know like I think

00:52:02 there was other indication I knew that like I had to go this like he's been calling me to come to him and I just wasn't taking the option absolutely eventually I felt like this was like my last chance like you come or this is your you're off yeah you like and it's like I've saved you I've guided you I gave to you now come to me yeah and uh yeah I think we're fortunate you know I think we I think we're very lucky I think you know I don't think everybody is like sometimes he's like hey you played your

00:52:32 your part in this life and though I think we have free will I think we do I think that's part of it yeah but that doesn't mean like uh I think it's the best is the Matrix example um when Neo's talking to the Oracle and he's like am I the one she's like no you're not and well you are you aren't right well you technically are but it's your choice to go that path and that way y right like are you you know no you're not not yet you know you're not yet are you on that path yet you have the ability to [ __ ] it

00:53:04 up you have ability to mess it up and not be the one yep and so yeah is uh it's one of those things and and I mean it was crazy I always kind of I was always Fearless when I was working around the world like to a fault like not giving a [ __ ] like I'm like I'll be all right or whatever like it is what it is if something has to happen while I'm doing this work like there's no greater deed than like I think laying down your life rest a kid like how I looked at it but also it was like I had just was like whatever like always in

00:53:32 these moments and then always like successful out of somewhere like I would get a sign or indication and you're going through these places you're like man there has to be somebody that's orchestrating this thing yeah absolutely somebody it's like giv me the chance to go down that way no you have to take the Free Will and take that pathway um for it and I for now like I have never I don't think ever been as happy or as I would say content with life MH right where I'm like I'm okay you know like if

00:54:01 this bad thing happens I got my faith to fall back on it was It was supposed to be that way MH you know what I mean like could I have prevented I probably could have but you know it it's was supposed to happen there's a there was a lesson in it like I've been blindsided I've been stabbed in my back and I'm like if anything it's just made me a better person you know like when you have your faith to fall back on like I look at back at my younger self that didn't have faith that didn't have my Bible study

00:54:26 that didn't have the church and I was like man I was lonely I was dark I feel like the the highs are higher and the lows are not as low when you have faith behind you yeah uh I couldn't I couldn't agree more um it's interesting once you have once you're able to lean on God through prayer and I I can't even imagine like at this point not I mean because some of the stuff that we do is so stressful um so many obstacles day to-day don't have answers like there's no clear answer and uh I can't imagine

00:55:02 going through it without you know praying and and you of course it seems that we pray more when things are going bad um and uh I was actually reminding myself with that yesterday I'm like oh you know this has been a good couple weeks but I went from praying you know 15 to 30 times a day like I do to you know like two and I'm like okay you know but I feel like sometimes God's putting these um difficult issues in place just for me to go to him a reminder hey I'm here and I can fix this you know and that's been

00:55:36 my experience he's always fixed things and um didn't understand him at the time I mean over the last nine years being in Mexico man we've had to overcome so much it's been very very difficult well the amazing work you're doing in Mexico too I mean especially like all the cancer patients you've been dealing with and seeing death and them leaving off life like I couldn't imagine if I was dying and I didn't have my faith yes oh exactly man yeah right like absolutely we've seen that seen that a bunch and um

00:56:04 yeah it's it's it's heavy work uh but you know the people really are amazing you know you get to see and you get to see the worst out of people and the best mostly the best though because as as someone is really facing their death and they've been told they have you know three months to live um you know you really get to see a lot of the beauty in life and you know we create a program where uh you the mind is very important we have two full-time psychologists we have power of the Mind classes for the cancer patients uh to

00:56:36 where they can really release a lot of that uh out a lot about even personal responsibility uh don't be a victim to your circumstance uh of of of cancer but talk about it and be open about it uh clean up any of the past relationships that maybe uh you've damaged because now it doesn't even matter you're facing this and you think that that kind of anger or uh whatever you're feeling towards other person or you feel like they're feeling towards uh you you think it's worth it or do you think it'd be

00:57:06 better cleaning it up and and the weight that that takes off of the the cancer patient um struggle that's a big part of our our philosophy is we want to clean up uh the emotional turmoil that they've they they've carried for so long they might not even realize it and so you know we focus on healing in that way too and and um it's it's beautiful work but it's you know it has been it has been tough you know there a lot lot of lot of emotion with that over the years uh as well say I think you see and I think one

00:57:37 of the benefits I had with plant medicine was it made me comfortable with death you know like it showed me some things and after studying iwas and doing thing it really made me comfortable with death and I think it plant medicine was key for me to come to Christ right it I feel like they were all tied together you know like back in the day they used to study plan medicine there's a great book called immortality key that that goes back and looks at alternative means of like religion and implant medicine

00:58:03 and other things uh that are out there and I I think they're connected right like I I feel like they are I feel like on my journey at least it brought me to it and then you have to get into the Bible and you have to get into the praying and the religion and everything like that and so um yeah it's like just being around as you go through death and chaos and things like that like if you don't have that religion I mean it has to be a hell of a l lot harder oh yeah no absolutely and um you know it sounds

00:58:31 like that you you were an atheist for a while but then you were turning for a while too so you at least were praying and you had that uh well I always wanted to get into it but I would go into church service and I'm like that's [ __ ] I don't like that guy I don't like man involved in my relationship now I found a great church you know I go to cross assembly in North Carolina Raleigh like they're phenomenal like I finally found a pastor I'm like I really like this guy they do a lot Mission work

00:58:57 money goes back to the people like I've really found versus like the super churches the mega churches um I just saw the the corruption there's just so many nonprofits out there churches and things like that and so I always had a problem with that and then I also had a problem with like my sinning I always thought that like I can't be that I'm doing this or I did that you know I mean I'm how can God forgive me you know even want me I'm a dirt back you know like I'm not I can't live these I would think of like

00:59:26 the guys are living these these perfect Christian lives and they're doing that I'm like that's not me you know what I mean I'm out there running around the world doing my thing and uh I I just was like I can't be at this point in time and I wanted to do I wanted to go through it you know I think it helped being an atheist at first because I would have all these arguments of why it isn't real and now I have all the reasons why that's [ __ ] right like I go through I'm like God Jesus can never walk on water I'm like we don't even

00:59:53 know how the [ __ ] of pyramids were built yeah right you know what I mean like you start making these arguments you're like I don't believe anything I think Rogan said it best he's like you know before Co he's like I'm like vaccines are good he's like after Co he's like I don't know if we landed on the moon yeah exactly like that was one of the best oneline jokes I think I've ever heard Rogan come up with and uh like I that really helped me put in context because I started studying ancient civilizations

01:00:18 and things like that I'm like we really don't understand this world right right like how is whm Hoff able to lower his body temperature and kill AA or uh what do you havea or something like that you ebola yeah he like killed that physically how are these monks able to like heat their body up for it I'm like there's like you have all these indications the stuff in the Bible was talked about that was that I would say like that's [ __ ] there's no no such thing you know and then if you actually start looking around the world all these

01:00:50 things really do exist yeah well I think that you know the way science goes and I obviously I love science it makes you think outside of yourself with your brain and it doesn't NE necessarily connect you uh with your deeper self and uh the functioning of your body and the connectiveness of us as human beings the importance of human connection animals love those type of things that s i how does science measure love you can't measure it so you know I think a lot of these other civilizations or other other times uh

01:01:27 periods throughout Humanity uh people were able to tap into those things a lot more uh without just being told that it's bogus or it's not real or it's quackery or you know it's pseudo science and um uh you know you can see that through the Psychedelic work that you've done that there's something else out there this isn't this isn't uh the the world that we see every day living not taking mushrooms yeah you know I I I think the the plant medicine was like the gatekeeper I think do I think plant

01:02:03 medicine is for everybody no I don't I don't know if it's there could be one plant medicine for you but it depends on who you are I think like an assessment should be done and I think like this is a good medicine plant that would work for you that's what Shaman would do yeah you know it wouldn't be Glen go try every plant medicine Shaman be like you got this going on like you should probably take this yeah right like we don't have that process anymore so people like the plant medicine world is crazy everyone's like I'm going to go do

01:02:27 iasa well you have a split personality probably not the best right you know like probably not the best thing to go down there and uh do it so I think that plant medicine opened my brain like it really there's neural Pathways that were rewired and then like I I go through conditioning and I go with intentions and I am like I really want to focus on this and you know like I was going to church and I would go through it and then you know like I would have my own ceremony right like in Colorado you have

01:02:53 different things you do with the mushrooms and everything like that so you have your own little ceremony on that day with that like I feel like it made me even closer to God but I could have those very honest conversations and look internally and call myself a piece of [ __ ] and call myself you know like that's what mushrooms do for me it's very internal and like really killing the ego um as much as you can and I respect them um but yeah I think it's it's critical to to understand our history and the medicines that they used

01:03:20 to use and like Marcus really is like I found out recently from a Rogan podcast that LSD is Urgot like based out of Urgot I used to think LSD I always put LSD as like a plant medicine because I was like ah it's it feels like a Spirit Well turns out it comes from Urgot what is that Urgot is the mushroom Urgot is what they believe was used where Marcus auril is and plate I see yeah I think it's met lucious in Greece that they would go and they always thought it was OT they haven't figured out exactly what

01:03:47 it was but it seems like it was a mushroom and that would be what they would have or something along those lines and I'm like dude that's cuz LSD I think is amazing yeah amazing for relationships you and your significant other like that if you made a a facilitation a facility somewhere and you had couples therapy and was with LSD I think divorce rate would plummet you know like the people would stay together because it's a way to connect with your partner yeah no no doubt about it I mean there's there's a lot with the with the

01:04:16 plant medicines or the psychedelics that um you are underutilized right now I mean they're going through FDA trials I know U MDMA was near nearly approved last year or didn't yeah well it was a few months ago but you know the I was reading the reasoning and I think it will be approved one day uh but they wanted some different type of data so I thought it was actually pretty reasonable there they weren't saying we're never going to do this they're like hey come back after you've done this and because there could

01:04:46 be a lot of pressure you know if something goes wrong then you know the fda's sole job is to uh produce safe medications yeah so that's I mean there's a few other things that's that's their main thing is make sure uh make sure it's safe so um I think that they're they want to make sure that's 100% I mean I think it's because that's it's a strong for me you know MDMA was like they say it's a two-day drug right it's a two day because that you have such a drop the next day oh yeah you know like that you go through it so like

01:05:16 those lows are harder for certain people and always they were always hard for me like I never really messed with it that much at all M when I was going through my Journeys and everything like that but yeah it's um it would just be amazing if one day they were like all right we're going to start clinics you know and where they have these abilities y h to to be able to use these medicines CU I don't know like you know we've been down the pharmaceutical route oh yeah like I can't I have I have the bag of pills

01:05:43 that I got when I got medically retired you would throw up really oh dude I like just of all the stuff they had me go through from cuz I have like severe ADHD and dyslexia so they gave me all the different types of anet means which's turning you like terrible for you yeah then you have all like the anti-depressants because your anxiety is super high because you have ADHD so they're like trying all these different things then they had the painkillers they put me on then the sleeping pills and like I didn't know I was you know

01:06:09 like I'm lost my way with getting out the military they just flood you with all these things you're like I'll try anything you mean well for me yeah yeah and it's like actually if you would have just took five grams of mushrooms and killed your ego you probably would have been okay probably would have been better yeah how many uh of the issues that veterans have after they get out of the military do you think are caused by overprescribing of of drugs man it's um that whole that that's a whole other

01:06:40 like talk because you know i' I've been working in that Suicide Prevention space um now for a while with the stop Soldier suicide um it the whole system is just flawed from the get-go it's hard to get help because if you get help then you lose your clearance and everybody has a clearance nowadays and so then you try to get on these pills for it which then those pills are proven that causes you to have psychotic episodes right it it kills everything that you are is an alpha M or a fighter in the military

01:07:12 getting after it and then you're guy that just doesn't want to do anything yeah yeah it's that whole suicide side of it the treatment for VA veterans and yeah it's it's a tough situation well you founded uh a company called blackbox right yeah so I I found out a project at uh stop s Su so dur during covid um I wasn't going undercover anymore I was just chilling in my house and uh I got a call a random call from a CEO of a nonprofit called stop solder suicide and I knew the board already um Nick and BK

01:07:44 they're great dudes that started organization where it's basically they had Wellness coordinators so guy in crisis could have a third party won't report back to your chain of command and you could get they would help facilitate you get the help that you need so if you're lost your house or you're going through certain times that they could put you in help that you need and also talk you through things you know it's not like the crisis line like you have a gun to your head it's going to be there

01:08:08 to make sure you get sustainable treatment through it so the CEO at the time just called me up was like hey I got your number from DC people they said you might be able to help and they wanted to use technology and Su to prevent suicide now I liken this to like the Slum Dog Millionaire movie mhm like a Slum Dog Millionaire movie where it's like I don't want be a spoiler but all these events had to happen to get this idea from it and so you know I have a background in digital forensics you know I was teaching cyber security hacking

01:08:39 for open source intelligence information so I understood the security world and then data science where you kind of bring it together I I would start dabbling in data science with machine learning and I realized real quickly so I sat with the idea um and I had I've had eight friends I wrote my first U when I was 21 3 months after I got back my best friend killed himself and [ __ ] absolutely crushed me I was in denial I thought he was murdered like everything so it's always been close to my heart Andrew

01:09:07 tommen great dude um and uh so it's always like I was like oh man passion project Co not traveling like so I got my whiteboard out and I realized that I was helping guys financially you know cuz I had got out but still guys were struggling and usually Financial stress is a big indicator yeah and so help a guy out here help a guy out there cover a bill whatnot and uh I would realize that they on their Facebook page you know what they were posting call Buddy help a bud and I was like your outward Persona is

01:09:37 not matching with your inward Persona I know you're the one that needs help so I would see these posts and then when I was doing digital forensics uh against pedophiles it was like I could live your life I could see everything you were doing it's you know Elon mus says your cell phone is your fifth Limb and so I'm like we have these and then I knew security I knew that with security that your phone is only locked out for so long and then you'll be able to get in everybody and I knew that everybody was

01:10:05 leaving these phones behind they cherish them it's like they're Holy Grail so we call it the blackbox project nobody knew how a plane crashed until they put a black box in the plane and figured out how they were crashing so I'm sitting on all these black boxes basically all these plane crashes that happens the cell phone is that individual so I can see the last second the last year of Life the figure out what went wrong why did it go wrong and can we prevent and predict it in the future um and so I then was I had then I had a salve a

01:10:36 to get the forensic solver so I contacted selbite the CEO at celb like I had a warm intro from a buddy into the the CEO and he's like dude love the project full sweep like hooked us up celebrate has been amazing we have like a government level suite of forensic software in in North Carol I had it in my house at first you know which is dope I had like an old computer an Alienware computer like sitting in my closet pulled that out pulled out a monitor set up this forensic lab during Co and I'm like cool I got everything set up

01:11:04 they're like now you got to go get phones and I'm like what do you mean I got to go get phones like that's your job yeah he's like no you got to go get phones I'm like today I scoured like Facebook from their our social media groups that we had and started reaching out to these families and like a few said no and a few were like yeah come go in and I'd have dinner with them and my God like seeing the level of d ruction from a child koling himself and like it's one of the big things that I like I've been working on is like the

01:11:31 public service announcement I feel like it needs this isn't a stop Soldier suicide statement this is a glen statement I feel like it needs to change you have to show these families because there's a sign at the golden estate Bridge it said you're only pushing the pain you know what I mean and so when a somebody a soldier Venter and kills themselves or significant other all that does is take all the pain that you have and puts it directly on your loved ones and so by doing that and then I mean I'm

01:11:58 super tight with these families I was like three weeks ago um the MGA family in North Carolina I was there was golfing with them at their memorial tournament for Austin MGA amazing Soldier um Bill Lee down in in Florida I went a fishing trip with him like I've gotten close with like the first five because it's like you really got to know the manor family um they uh they gave their phones and they were the critical piece for this whole thing because at first you know I met with a star major of the army like this is too intrusive

01:12:25 like they're dead they're gone yeah you know what I mean like and it's after the first five it's all automated yeah you know what I mean like it's all automated at that point forward it's all automated I once I build the pipes then the data goes and you analyze the data at that point Yeah so basically you're taking the meta data off of the cell phones of people that have uh committed soldiers that have committed suicides all the data all the data okay all outgoing tax messages all inw coming text messages

01:12:52 all browser history all emails all appointments calendars so when I got all this data we start seeing and like people were like oh spare the moment this guy died spare the moment I recovered at deleted suicide there three months prior he wasn't oh wow you know I saw that you know three out of the five that I had went to the VA that day for help and then killed themselves wow I saw that they were you know they're saying in the military you either go to the Bible or to the bottle right and a lot of guys just abuse alcohol and it's

01:13:24 one of the worst things you can do if you're in a low because it will just take you low yeah absolutely so you have that that's the beginning part of the process and then so then uh I got a hold of Amazon AWS they love the project um W up running a machine learning team at their proserve their top machine learning analyst came on and we started looking at the project and sure enough man sleep deprivation isolation right anger aggression so we created our own sleep algorithm that we could see based when you're sleeping

01:13:54 based on when your phone connects your Bluetooth your gyro everything your frequency of text messaging different things like that and so um we're now out to the 67 devices we've grown the project um but now um and this is not finalized but I want to take the project open to everybody I want to focus on suicide and then profile to maybe veterans to police to Firefighters you know to the blacks the Asians the whites Hispanic you know what I mean like really started so blow Project D because we need devices I need a thousand plus

01:14:28 devices um to go through to then start seeing the correlation of data and then once you have it right we have we can run an SDK on we give it to Facebook and say Hey you have someone that's potentially going to Suicide reach out to them or other nonprofits out there if you're working on in their clinical process hey maybe get a hold of them ASAP because they haven't slept in two days yeah right like that Anonymous number ID so there's there's hope you no innovation is happened in suicide yeah none no nothing until this project

01:14:59 you know but we're sitting on the holy grow day like it's um we've been talking some of the top universities Vanderbuilt University great guys over there um we're going to start bringing some of the best researchers in now and try to scout this project as best we can that's interesting there there's actually research right now on the uh blood work of um you know depressed uh patient so it'd be interesting if you had like a little uh prick that you could do and tie it into the app data to uh to to see

01:15:28 where they're at um at first when I heard that was happening probably seven years ago had a friend uh immunologist that was working on it I'm like I don't think you're but the data is actually pretty pretty good the biomar it's like if you can get there at the right time yeah you know like quarters of level Spike I'm sure he's probably monitoring something along along this I don't know the science behind it I foret everything he was he was monitoring it was uh I've seen a few studies around it yeah yeah

01:15:53 it was interesting but um yeah I mean what what is the rate currently of US military that are committing suicide yeah you're looking at I think it's 6,000 a year you have anywhere from 22 to 27 that kill themselves a year for we've lost way more Veterans of suicide 27 a day right yeah yeah that's a day a day yeah um I think it's onethird of the national average don't quot me on that one um for it but it's um it's like guys like me though you know like I I've like I I've known like two guys in the past

01:16:27 like year that have done it like it's so hard to get to them because it's like they're not going to sit down and talk to you like very rarely that they're not going to go to the VA and get help they go through financial stress I feel like they have that built and then it's like boom at that moment and so if we can get to them that's like if we can get to them through the digital means of like hey bro like you are going down this think of your family right right think of this yeah think of that you know there was a

01:16:56 a wellness coordinator um that my buddy Austin at works over at sopur who was telling me about that she made them um tape a picture of their son to his pistol right I thought that was a fascinating way yeah you have to be able to show that Bond of like this is who you're hurting you're not hurting yourself you're not giving yourself a break yeah right you know if you're single you have nobody in your life got it man like dude if I if I didn't have kids this could be a whole different story mhm right I always had like I was

01:17:28 like I'm going to have to suck this [ __ ] up yeah I don't care how low I am like I've had the gun in my hand and I'm like y that's not even a [ __ ] option right you know what I mean cuz I have a 5-year-old I at the time you know like I have a ton of kids I'm like there's just too many people yeah um Bo but it's a it's a tough fight you know it was lot it was a lot harder like going to these households than I was expecting I was like man this is it's very I'm like if the people in the world could see the

01:17:53 Carnage of what suicide does to families it would be think people would think twice oh it's brutal I mean it's one of those uh just a sinking sinking feeling you know cuz you're just you're one hour away from it all being okay yeah you know I and I think it's also du of a lack of religion yeah know yeah absolutely and I lack of religion uh most of the time I would guess it happens when people are drunk the drunker they get and the next day afterwards yeah I had a friend uh yesterday I got a call from uh his dad

01:18:33 and he's like hey I haven't talked to so this morning and I'm like I was with him the night before I flew in he was a little down so went over to hang out with him and drive them but I didn't get any signs that anything was going to happen and uh and so yeah his dad called and so I rushed over there and I was had all those thoughts going through my head like oh gosh and um my Laura was with me and I got there I'm like you stay in the car cuz I didn't want if you know something happened he opened the door he

01:19:01 just drank a lot and overslept I was like oh thank God man pun you right in the dick yeah he didn't it's yourself he didn't do anything wrong yeah he just he's you know she slipt but I mean so just yesterday I was having those thoughts of you know it's like a reminder of how bad this is going to be if this just happened and uh you know having a little guilt like I was thinking last night tonight did I miss something he was kind of down I said this to him maybe that was harsh yeah he's going through some things so I was

01:19:30 giving him some uh you know friendly advice maybe I went to hard yeah but um you know you shouldn't do cocaine it's not good like you shouldn't do XY you got to stop seeing this this it was basically over a woman that uh you know he broke up and they've been five months but they'll get back for a couple weeks and then you know stuff like that and uh but yeah Hest shoots is needed you know what I mean it's absolutely the brotherly trust but you know now if he would have done that though you know uh

01:20:00 I could have had this regret um you know maybe the rest of my life of what I didn't say or what I missed or those type of things and so it really is and his dad I called his dad as soon as I left and his dad you know answered started crying you know I told him fine and so you people don't think about the impact it has on their family and friends the person that discovers them you know the people that uh you know the mom or dad that's losing their child um the the child that's losing their father or mother a lot of

01:20:33 these different things and um I think the more people are reminded of that the the less chance they have of actually actually doing it yeah I I I 100% agree with you I think there's two ways you look at you look at the family but also if you travel like there's a whole story it's kind of funny like the guy that flew to Columbia did a whole bunch of coke and had a bunch of hookers and they think kill himself you hear that story killed himself he didn't want he was going to kill himself he I'm going to go

01:20:59 out he's going to go down he did all that that and he's like actual life's not that bad you're right like but I would put I'm not just I'm not cond doning to do that what I'm saying is is like for me like if you go like you don't hear about suicide in Africa you don't hear about suicide in these refugee camps like they are very lucky to be alive so sometimes it just takes moving the environment yeah right like going to that different environment and seeing what people are going through and be like

01:21:25 I got it pretty pretty good you know like if you can sometimes it just takes to put things into context um for it and I like I said they're like one hour one day away from like being okay yeah exactly like take a sleeping pill sleep it off man like it's sleep for two days three days we've all had those where we're like the waves are just beating us yes absolutely you know I don't think life's is about like it's not like I'm not going to have another low not like I'm not going to get like completely

01:21:54 submerged drowned and just I just got to hold my breath yeah and try to just get back up I know like I've had some really tough mentally years where I'm like this is [ __ ] like ever ending like CU this just be like you I mean thanks to you I mean honestly man like I was probably at my lowest point when we first met like with my neck I mean I had an injury for like 18 months I couldn't sleep you know they put me on like traod doll like I was and I didn't want to take pain cuz I was hooked before but it was like I was

01:22:22 in so I was losing my tricep cuz of muscle atrophy before I went down to CPI like I was messed up like mentally because my physical feature I couldn't do anything without pain yeah but it's like you know luckily I mean obviously you guys gave my life back by going down there I got my C6 my rotator you guys have fixed everything um and once you get that fixed then you're good yeah you know like I look back in those moments of like how low and like I felt fat and I felt like out of shape with all these

01:22:49 things I'm like had to buy just had to weather the storm and then you know that you're going to get out of it yeah I mean you know the injuries are are something that chronic pain is a whole other thing too yeah that is you know people don't realize how much pain certain people are going through and it's an everyday thing you have something wrong with your neck C6 C7 what was yours C6 yeah C6 um you got yeah atrophy happening so you're losing muscle uh it's a constant like a pick almost I had C6 c72 back dude 20

01:23:25 years ago I'm fighting and it was the worst man I I reinjured it three times in 12 months each time was right when I was coming back so i' given it time first training session I mean it and the pain is it's Indescribable yeah and uh but but the chronic part of that a lot of people have you know this back pain or this neck pain that's day in and day out and uh if you can't take that pain away you know you you might question is it worth living because you're living with this horrible pain yeah man like I I 100%

01:24:03 agree like you guys are doing some black magic down there like honestly like this isn't because we're friends you know we became friends from this whole process but I mean I wanted some of the best neurosurgeons for because it wasn't sure as neck orthosurgeons and they were going to do a full dish replacement and if I didn't come to your place for that fundraiser for operation light shine I was like 3 or 4 weeks away from neck surgery you know which is maybe a 5ye if it's successful from that I'm still running you know my my

01:24:35 nonprofit my other companies it's like my life's a whole different story and like you and Sky were like Hey we're going to take care of you and I think I was one of the first kind kind of Miracle of Hope dudes uhuh you know where you're like hey just come down there and I postponed my surgery I canceled it I flew down there and I'm like I'll try anything at this point and like when I woke up and you always say you're like just wait it's going to take time I'm like bro I could feel on my fingers I'm like I know it's going to

01:24:58 take time but I'm like my muscle is like not flexing like my muscle was deteriorating from the atrophy I'm like you have to understand like I haven't felt my hands in two years yeah like this is crazy and so and then it was like going through the process and going through I'm like this is actually I'm actually you start giving me hope again and then it turns out then I had during that whole period of like 6 months I had a torn rotator the whole time but it was causing the same pain M so I went back

01:25:24 down the CPI they uh injected that and I swear to you the day before I left for that Gaza operations all my pain went away awesome it was like it could have been more serendipitous like to the tea perfect and I had just did like 600 miles for the next 16 weeks all through all these countries driving around these cars and I'm like if that wasn't the most perfect timing yeah I don't know what is and so I mean if you were allowed to do kids down there I would I would take I got I have a a nephew with a torn shoulder

01:25:56 right now and I'm like God I wish I could just take him down there and get the surgy I'm like don't don't cut him let him heal and then we'll take him down when he's old enough or like my parents like I'm like nobody should ever do surgery I play a bunch of pickle ball now like people are injured all the time like I'm always like CPI like you well I mean the thing is sometimes surgery is necessary but um I mean my opinion is you should always try stem cells before surgery because I mean there's some

01:26:22 weeks cuz you know we have uh returning patients back at month 6 and 12 we allow them to get 30 million free stem cells and we do their MRIs because we're collecting all this data yeah and some weeks man it's 15 out of 15 and I don't say that like I was skeptical initially with stem cells um I wanted to see you know but some weeks it's 15 out of 15 the paper that we're looking to publish here pretty soon hopefully we'll have it uh by the end of the year I think it's going to be and this is for uh this is

01:26:51 going to be lumbar uh but 70 to 85% uh are are getting significantly better and we have different uh rankings different scores and so um it's unbel I mean it's it's wild and and and it does work um in those there is so even let's let's say it's uh 75% let's just kind of meet in the middle there uh that that would still mean 25 out of 100 didn't get better but that still means 75 also margin of error though like were they drinking were they killing their stem cells were they doing things they weren't supposed to do

01:27:29 moving things you know like what's that margin eror in that of the 25% right yeah most of them were they they they did they got they were uh got back too soon and jacked themselves up one was like playing football the other was you know but so it does mess up our your statistics yeah that's it has to be even higher yeah I mean I yeah it's very high it's very high and so high that true story we have data from about I don't know I think we're probably close to and this is with six-month data of about a

01:28:05 thousand about 1,200 patients where they've come back and I want to just publish the whole thing uh but the data is so good that if we were to publish it everybody nobody would believe us that the mainstream would be like that's impossible it might hurt us more than help us so we're we're we're trying to look at doing it in a way that we can show it convincingly and so but that's I just want to do a all all back study you know cervical lumbar like this lumbar uh study that we're we're going to be publishing you know we had to cut

01:28:46 out those that had more than a certain amount of injections or if someone got you know uh injections in their shoulders this is just Lumbar and it's like yeah but most of our patients are doing you know lumbar neck shoulder so we had to exclude all those out of there too so it made a a smaller group but um you that is kind of what you publish so you you publish a paper with a thousand patients and you know 75 to 80% of those patients are getting better you know they're like what is this you know it's

01:29:17 Che on the exam like you got a perfect sat sore like this isn't make any sense that's that's that's a thought and uh but you know you seen it you I tell people I'm like I am not lying they a they ain't paying me I'm telling you I go down like eject everything I'm like I'm like I would move the TJ if they could do that like in North Carolina weekly I would pay for it if I could afford it weekly because it's you're growing you're you didn't you guys grow a thumb back good part of one yeah I mean so you know I always say full

01:29:45 disclaimer um you know as a child for instance if you were to cut off like the tip of your thumb you have a lot of stem cells uh at the tips of your fingers and stuff uh it'll grow some of it back but our thought was this is more than the tip and this is a grown man and he was H he was coming down for uh getting his uh neck injected and he's a friend of mine um and he was flying in on a Sunday Saturday he caught his thumb in the bike chain and cut off part of his part of his thumb and so when he got there he

01:30:18 was coming down for stem cells anyway we're like hey let's try injecting your thumb uh to see you know see if can grow it back yeah and I'll be damned that thing yeah I mean it grew most of it back he's got a little little fingernail uh now it's going to be a little smaller little but I mean it was impressive and it happened fast too yeah I mean you know three weeks later man I mean he already had you could see that it was going to be a lot better than he initially thought oh yeah just a bone sitting there yeah L sent me to picture

01:30:48 I was like that is insane man I know now when I go back from my checkups they're like they scan like everything oh you're lumbar we could probably do that I'm like hey I'm like I will take whatever you want to give me right now like I was like I've been playing like pickle ball like crazy and so I'm like could you check my elbow it's getting kind of tender they injected it I'm like this is this is phenomenal elbow doesn't hurt anymore that's awesome yeah I like huge believer I'm like and I get hit up all

01:31:12 the time because uh like I'm I think one of the advertisements and so like people hit me up and I'm like dude go down like it doesn't hurt you know what I mean like if if you're going to have a major surgery opt this you know I mean like first man it's like yeah they got to try if you have a a neck or back problem back shoulders knees like actually yes yes yes yes yeah you I mean like if you have any of those range of moments where you're going to lose your like CU if I look back two years ago where I was I I

01:31:43 think my wife would be the best testimony and I think she's going to she's going to do a testimony she saw like the difference before and after where my kids they're like dude Daddy can you know play sports Daddy can do this you know mean like you're going out and like you get your life back um it's it's crazy I just wish we could do it in the US man yeah well hopefully we'll be able to start some FDA trials here in the next year or so and uh I mean we already have so much data we're just putting it together in a way that uh you

01:32:11 know we got we got to make sure that it's clean and we've gone through it and you know we can pres present it and defend it yeah because it's so unbelievable I mean it's just it's crazy it's unbelievable what have you learned from the blackbox research uh that surprised you in the last days of of some of these people the biggest thing is they were all a lot of them wanted to get help right when you can see a flaw in the system where you know they had their clearance and they were trying to communicate and go to like a third party

01:32:44 but then somebody found out that they were going to get help and because of that they thought like their career was over and they thought like they they thought so so far along that in reality it didn't matter you know it was really not a really significant event that they made a significant event um you know I think it's uh just going back through it I think that that's one of the biggest things is just help is there like how do you get the help how do you just really weather the storm um to come through it and

01:33:18 really the fact that like these guys are going to the VA and then turn it away like everyone talks about the VA being messed up everyone and I'm not hating on the VA I'm just talking about some of the data points that I've seen um if they're going to get it now we have the data to show that they're going to get it so as we keep collecting this data and it keeps growing we're we're at a very small sample set if we have a thousand of phones and we're seeing that you know 800 out of the Thousand went to

01:33:42 the VA that day that's a pretty significant that we need to go change policy yeah right do I know that we're going to have 100% the holy grail and we're going to solve suicide I don't do I think we have the best chance we do mhm um apparently and so with that we're just going to keep finding people always say well what are you going to do once you get the information I'll worry about that and I'll stop the planes from crashing once I know how the planes are crashing yeah absolutely um it's definitely a problem when you

01:34:12 hear 22 to 27 people every day uh soldiers every day are committing suicide um you can't hear those numbers and not want to do something you know it's access to guns too right like a lot of them we learn how to shoot we have access to guns some spur moment happens you just pull a trigger yeah you know it's a you know like if you know a guy's down this luck like then there's a gray like can you take their guns no you can't because then you're violating their rights and they're going to make them more suicidal

01:34:41 so there's just like this whole chicken with the egg thing that you're like I don't even address the gun issue because it's like you're not going to go through that nor am I saying to take their guns away but if I had a brother that lived with me or a son was with me that I knew was on the verge I'm going to make sure that he can't get access to it yeah right or a daughter you know I mean like I'm going to make sure that even though my house is that I'm going to change the codes I'm going to put them away and

01:35:06 make sure that they can't get access that easy I think like like so many things in politics the the gun issue is is polarizing you know and I think that you and I would be considered very very strong Second Amendment people absolutely um but it's gotten to a point where if you have a conversation of anything but completely let people have their guns you know you're against the Second Amendment and you're bad and you know I don't believe that I I think that we can't have logical conversations about

01:35:39 how to uh lower the risk for some of these people without violating the Second Amendment right which to me is probably our most important right because it's the right to stand up uh against the tyrannical government that's the point that we have the Second Amendment I know that and I believe in that but we've lost like so many things logic in in the Second Amendment debate because people immediately just go the other direction and say oh you're trying to take your guns blah blah blah blah blah and then you got the left that

01:36:16 really are trying to take the guns so they could use this as we to use it to take away to to take away the guns cuz if you give an in still take a mile on us and it go through it's like vers in reality I think all idea should only rent space in your head right right like you should be able to budge some and move some but I think it's because our political system is flawed you know right now we have the left or we have the right and and our founding fathers stated a two-party system is as demise

01:36:43 of democracy as it exists after Ross perau they killed the green party because he threw the vote the left and right got together and they polarized us like crazy MH so this is the problem when you don't have a third vote right and so you cannot come on you can't have that Swing Vote and we could have the the right and the center saying hey we need to address this but you're only going to address it this far and then you have power right you have you have that but right now it's like man you give that other side a little bit

01:37:11 they're going to run with it they're going to they're going to twist it they're going to lie on the media because the left has the media the right has Twitter at this point in time like thank God the Elam us he saved our first amendment yeah because of the way we were going censored and you know with our Second Amendment we can only they can only get so crazy we have more guns than we have people yeah it can only get so crazy right and they're they're not going to stop trying to take our guns right which unfortunately but like you

01:37:37 said like I think we both can agree that we we could budge a little bit but we're so afraid if we budge you know next thing you know then it's like hey then you you need an ID like prove that you're not suicidal right prove that you haven't had that now all oh wait you were in a service you most likely have PTSD you can't own a rifle right right like you have all these like things that you know they're going to [ __ ] us with like you're like all right whatever well I'm not even addressing that topic

01:38:04 because I know where this goes and how crazy is it though because I mean what you're talking about I feel the same way it's it's exactly what you just said I have all the same concerns uh and yet we know we should be able to talk about these things but you have Bad actors on the other side and let's just say Bad Bad actors within the government I mean that's ultimately uh the the group that we should most fear they have the most power over all of us and uh if we do give them an inch it does seem like you know that's the

01:38:36 last thing standing in the way of complete tyranny yeah we we I mean we need term limits it's there's just no like people talk about presidential they do have power and they do abuse their executive power and I'm hoping we have a new Administration going into it because we're in a worse situation we're in but the end of the day we need term limits and we need a third party back like how was RFK Jr not allowed to run on the party on like completely screwed Bernie Sanders was screwed by the left there

01:39:05 like they're just picking their candidates there's not even a free election on the left right now no right and then you know like I'm a big Trump supporter like like I don't care like I think he's loves our country yeah I really do you know like does some of the [ __ ] he say piss off people it sure as hell does right like they're going to do that but he has great policies always say is like we had the ABS Accord we had peace in the Middle East you we had a complete opposite of what we have right

01:39:29 now in chaos around the world we have a great economy like I would say I and I've tried with people I'm like Give Me A Reason what policy that you're seeing right now on the left is a good policy for my children's future yeah give me one policy you're like that was a really good idea and they'll be like Trump 2025 agenda like he's already come out and said you can't use clickbait he's already you know fact check so we're not using yeah we already debunked that like he said he cares for abortion he says

01:39:55 like hey you know when they have a heartbeat and they can actually you know know what's going on we can't kill them like that's the only thing if raped if you're doing like this you have the right to abortion I I feel like that's a pretty sensible way to be you know like I've seen the videos of what it looks like when a 9-month-old is aborted yeah that is murder of a child yeah right and and so like I feel like I'm a very Central person you know I grew up my dad and every we were the old school

01:40:20 Democrats now we're you know the Republicans and it's like we're the Maga you know that's like the side where I think like there's actual sense and being and but it's the media like it's the media and the politics you go through which is crazy because if you go to any International Airport around the world everyone thinks Trump's just like maniac and crazy because they're getting Yahoo and they're getting CNN yeah you like I think sorus just bought like 220 radio stations around the world you don't think that that is going to be

01:40:44 propaganda that's put out there yeah no I mean it's it's so obvious too and you're talking about you know what policies does uh Kamala have um Kamala have on the left um she's done what two or three interviews one was with Dana Bash that was a complete softball uh [ __ ] questions um that's acting that's not even that's not interview exactly that was they weren't pushing her at all you know it was interesting if you were to watch that interview with Dana Bash and uh kamla um and then you were to watch JD Vance and

01:41:17 Dana Bash she's factchecking she's pushing she's arguing it's like the bias is obvious out there I mean you can see what these people are doing you could see it in the debate when she was lying out of her teeth but they didn't fact check her once it was a lot I thought she did a great job as far as you know her versus Trump in that debate she looked better she sounded better uh then you come to find out you know the camera angles on her were better uh you know sari sister was giving the questions no I didn't know

01:41:50 that one that's his SAR sister was giving the questions during the debate I did not know that yeah wow you know yeah it's crazy right s sister she had the questions beforehand questions she couldn't that that's uh there was a a document that was sent uh basically saying whistleblower document saying that she had the questions we'll see I I want to see if that is true if that is true it turns out that that is 100% true now it's going to happen I mean but that that would show you the stupidity of the

01:42:23 American people if they're okay with ABC giving one of the presidential candidates the questions beforehand if they're okay uh with ABC agreeing not to ask about her uh time as AG of California and how many black people she kept in prison and the person on death row that she uh tried to keep on death row and all of the horrible things that that that she did if they in fact agreed to not ask those questions and then to also o fact checked Trump one of their fact checks was wrong yeah I mean and and people don't care then we deserve

01:43:01 what we get problem look what January 6 there was the best example best thing they could have done right like if you look at that situation they are still going after people so the way this worked was FBI and the people at the top and DC were going out to these locals so they would contact my fed friends in all these different states and it wasn't the local Feds that were Conta they would come from DC andr these individual theyve fear people they did it on purpose they stand up so we know the the

01:43:31 debate was [ __ ] we know that V voter fraud was happening we know that some of these things are getting return but it's so what because when it's after a fact yeah they're not going to do anything well the whole Insurrection thing is so stupid do you not think if Trump wanted to do an actual Insurrection that he wouldn't have done it there do you not think that those people wouldn't have been armed going into the capital when's the last time uh there's been a an Insurrection without weapons give me a break I mean it wasn't

01:44:05 an Insurrection you had did you have a mob of people yeah just like the left has mobs of people going into destroying cities especially in 2020 over the George Floyd stuff we just the capital police didn't open up these doors right right and let them in yeah well you they did on some and then you know there were some people that were breaking down doors you know the point is was it a mob of of some crazy people absolutely but how many how many antifa were in that crowd yeah well that's you know we don't

01:44:33 we don't know that how many FBI the guy that that was in charge of it that was actually an FBI informant right like yeah we we don't know how many we'll never know but it's still even if they were it still wasn't an Insurrection I mean how are you like Trump could have said I want you to storm the capital with guns go give them hell let's take back our country let's and that would have been an Insurrection yep not March peacefully be peaceful whatever exactly he said which he he did say those things

01:45:11 as far as he wanted a a peaceful protest um and yet they've played it into one of the darkest days in American history Pro Harbor 911 like give me a break boo [ __ ] boohoo but if you look at all of this like like the Russian conclusion it w up being a Democrats yeah the steel docu document was dossier was like that was treated by them exactly like people we have all these facts it's like so what they're they literally like this they are the bully in the yard and like what are you going to do about it oh are

01:45:45 you're going to talk up we're going to shut you down we're going to shut all your accounts we're going to take your bank accounts right like go up and say anything you're they will take you all the platform if you rise high enough they will clip you the tallest poppy on the right gets cut yeah all all the time like if you look thank God for Elon Musk and taking Twitter like people like oh terrible investment no he's a genius he knew that he had no way and he was going to get censored yeah right he knew that

01:46:11 he was gonna they took they took Donald Trump off of Twitter but they kept the leader of hezb yeah and the Iranian that's killed Americans the Iranian supreme leader that was allowed to be up there and Ste it's hate speech you had pedopilia all over Twitter but Donald Trump was not allowed to be on Twitter yeah it's crazy that doesn't tell you something I mean like it's obvious what they're doing oh I mean it's very very obvious and the the left right now uh I've I've lost a lot of respect for many

01:46:43 people on the left because they're they're just not consistent and you know they're full of [ __ ] when they you know suggest that January 6 was an insur a violent Insurrection like you know violence you've been to war was was that dud an Insurrection it was the biggest setup I mean there's so many antifa in there it was a Playbook they called for a National Guard they denied it yeah look if you look at when Biden gives a speech they have more gates around that on purpose they let it happen like that

01:47:15 is a tactic in the intelligence world where you let it happen so the repercussions are 10x of what it is you create fear and conc control through fear like I mean it's it's a playbook for it I think the problem is like luckily we still have a second amendment and I think the problem is is when you get the people that are standing idle the individuals that serve this country and other people when they really start getting in you're going to you're going to have an issue yeah you know I mean like I think we do have like I worked

01:47:42 with presidential campaigns down in Colombia they have to show their their ID yeah right I think we really need to see that Vegas had Trump winning and all a sudden we have a spike in votes where it's mathematically impossible one can get all the votes like you have to understand you have that the oh the machines are unhackable but then we find out 3 years later that actually you could manipulate the machines but you have all these things like there's it's all there eventually though like it gets

01:48:05 to a Breaking Point like you have a pendulum that's what I'm afraid of I'm afraid it's going to because I'm a very peaceful guy I'm a peacemaker in this world like I don't want to ever see violence but like you're going to push people all the way to the [ __ ] far right or far left and that thing's going to come swinging back yeah and you're not going to like it they're they're not going to like it if it it gets to a point where people feel that truthfully I'm at the point where I can stand up and say something well and that's that's

01:48:29 where I think they're they're pushing people there intentionally though uh because you they know that we're the most who grows their food who delivers their food trains trucks food supply chain like they're going to get look what happen in Canada when you had a few truckers if you had some truckers and you had some individuals that cut off New York and cut off DC within 3 days they would have it and they just like it has to pull down the term limits I don't ever want to see that because end of the day

01:48:57 there's innocence they're going to into it but people are going to stand up they're going to rise up eventually it's just the conditions aren't as bad you know I mean I think when the conditions get worse if we get if we went into a full recession if we went into a Great Depression you know the what is it the um the rate were just dropped which is a huge indication that you're potentially going into a major recession or a Great Depression um like I think that is the only time you'll get somebody up there

01:49:21 cuz people are just comfortable enough not to really stand up yeah I mean it seems like all of this is by Design and they've had a long-term plan it's by China yeah well yeah look at walls could be how many times had the the vice president walls or whatever potential vice president with kamal's like how many times has he been to China yeah I don't know you should look I would challenge everyone you look up his China connections really oh dude he's been there I don't know it's like 30 times like he's gotten Awards over there he

01:49:51 talked about how great nation they are over there like if you don't think China was on the ropes storing Trump yeah right like you have to you don't think that they are funding our campaigns if you ever seen James o'keefes where he went around looking at the donor dollars and he would go like hey you donated $150,000 to the Democratic party and you go through and it's some old lady that doesn't have $80,000 to her name yeah she's like no I gave $20,000 one time so they're inflating the books and all

01:50:19 these like they have all these numbers but the problem is you go through it and guess what Happ happens it gets out there and then it gets deleted and it gets demonetized in algorithm so you can get out there but I think what elon's doing is smart right you have you have X right you have starlink right and then he's he has Monopoly on the whole thing yeah he is the the and I'm not I'm not a huge fan I'm a fanboy but also is like I see what he's doing you can see the writing on the wall of like he sees the issues he

01:50:48 sees it like you cannot have a revolution without communication right the first thing what's if you look at um controlling countries like China it's the first thing you do yeah control the communication the internet the Great Wall right Venezuela China like all of them like they own that area of communication because you can't rise up you can't organize you can't come together if I can't communicate out to people so I think starlink will play that that piece like down in Brazil we're going to be able to I think in the

01:51:17 future just be able to not need the dish but just a satellite connect for our phones yep and then you have Reign to communicate without being um censored nice it's going to be the true yeah I mean I think of a world without Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and it would be totally different those two single-handedly are you know saving us from where we would all already be in under complete control and censorship and uh people violating our our first amendment constantly and um that's where it's going you know I like what RFK says

01:51:54 where he's like when's the last time uh you heard the people that were trying to censor were the good guys that was you know great quote I mean that's that's what it is though when like when are the ones trying to censor the good guys um if you think 100% of the victors in history were the good guys right right is the other quote you think the guys wrote the history books all of them were good people right there's not a [ __ ] chance in hell right like no doubt about it you know and then you can go down the

01:52:23 rabbit holes of you know our country and uh the horrible things that the Deep state has done um over the last 70 years really since World War Two I mean uh CIA got really strong at that point um they uh you know with like look at MK Ultra uh Operation Paperclip D Patton got killed after World War II yeah cuz he was against the Russians there's there's there's another one I mean JFK RFK um and so we have all of these things that are really scars on our country you know the the vision and the uh belief in America is still there for

01:53:09 me but I see how the government when it got too much power it abused the people and it abused our rights and now all that's coming out and I think that the you know the Deep State you know that's in control of everything is is worried because you know they've got somebody like Trump who is ready to crash the system dude there's assassination attempts like you couldn't pay a whole organization all the people I know to be able to pull that off without inside knowledge I was going to say do you think the assassination tip was an

01:53:43 inside job there is no doubt there's no look at the last one okay Golf Course all right so if you were to pay me to try to do this said job knowing his logistical like plan of when he's going to be there for it right because you can't build a pattern of time over distance like you they'll be able to identify you there then also have that one area to be able to sit somewhere for 12 hours where overover without doing scouting and Recon like so would it take me a team of maybe eight guys where one

01:54:11 day one guy is going to go another day another guy is GNA go let's just say he knew Trump was likely to play golf we waited 12 hours that doesn't seem that unreasonable the it's like with a president you you have no idea when he's gonna be at that Golf Course like the odds of them knowing somebody told him at some some point in time he's going to be here on this day go do this why did the doj just release a picture of that whole thing about $150,000 yesterday because they want him dead right look at

01:54:40 the first one like the first one we all agree like he has a rangefinder you have people on the ground yelling you have Secret Service are in that window they're going through and like that was the most basic they had some guy on somebody going to kill Trump from I don't know that rooftop away yeah that Sniper Tower right there and then like the two snipers that like there's multiple guns cuz someone shot from the side I mean come on man like there is there's no he was supposed to be dead yeah like I fully believe God turned his

01:55:09 head at the last second to look at that screen and saved his life yeah and why was that was the first rally that CNN uh recorded I I didn't know that it was the first rally that they recorded why was that the uh the GoPros that he had for the golf course and I think Time Magazine put a there's so many cryptic little things that are out there and you know obviously we're looking at just the pure facts here I mean this is like a young kid and then if you look at his house his house is completely scrubbed like if this DNA kit like team

01:55:39 went in there and completely scrubbed the kit like I'm very intimate with like intelligence operations and how they go if they were going to assassinate or kill somebody yeah that house is clean with like all DNA you had no silverware didn't you say there was uh somebody coming in and out of the house yeah so there is a there's a thing called adtech and we've been using adtech for years I don't want to get into classify side of it because I'm not sure what is still classified what is not classified um for

01:56:04 it but it's a it's if you look up adtech fog data different indications like we all have ads on our phones and they're free like grinder was Notorious grinder sold everybody's ad ID for it and so you could see these individuals were all these people that own grinder and all these things um back in the day and so I don't have the data hard for me to verify but I can tell you that somebody posted it that had the data and said that somebody that went to individual set house the first Shooters was also

01:56:31 going right next door to headquarters elements in DC what's the headquarters elements I don't know if it was the FBI government building facilties Somebody went nine times to that location wow right so if I could get that data I could verify it it's expensive I've been trying to get my hands on it if anyone has the data I would love it I've analyzed that data for years I know how to use it um you can see it I've also been trying to get the ad data for ep9 right like all those all this data is out there and then you can see who's

01:56:56 going and where it's going and who's been to these certain locations um for it it doesn't give you the name of said person sure just it's an ID though but then if you went to this house I can see he works here I can see that he want here I could see he want there you you figure out who he is though after you could figure out who it is after you know you it's not hard yeah I mean it's not hard at all I mean my thing is the July 1 assassination attempt it was obvious uh that it was an inside job yeah um this latest one as well you have

01:57:33 to wonder how this type of thing happens within seven weeks of the previous attempt and um I've been saying for the last few years they're going to uh try to get rid of him somehow and if they can't put him in jail they're going to try to assassinate and you now this is complete conspiracy theory but what do you think the odds are that in March of 2020 uh in the middle of probably the most contentious presidential uh campaign of all time uh a virus gets released into public that shuts down everything and Trump's

01:58:21 economy which was amazing the country was doing better than ever uh gets shut down and they have a reason for people to not like him because of how he handled the covid issue what are the odds of that so I think that was a setup I think that Manufacturing in China the last two yeah it was manufactured the Wuhan lab in China they try to suggest that if you said it wasn't from a bat and a a penguin You Were Somehow racist right so they made people believe that and they the the crazy people on the left say oh

01:58:54 you're a racist it's not from oh disinformation you're not trusting science and they did that with mass they did that with the vaccines they did it over and over again and you know then the last two assassination attempts I don't think he's going to make it uh to the election I think they're going to assassinate him sadly yeah I mean I I wish you would take Eric Prince's advice um and higher private it's not the lack of the um secret service you it's just the the the reach of these other individuals right I mean they're they're

01:59:29 going to I mean just two attempts this guy this guy this last one I mean he had ties with Ukraine all the [ __ ] he was doing he has a follower from the CIA former CIA connection she has a private account he has a private account but they follow each other and she's puts on her LinkedIn and she's CIA like you know I mean I'm not talking sh C like my people you're cool I don't know but I'm just saying there's a l lot of weird [ __ ] yeah that is like really some deep [ __ ] deep State um things that are going on like I mean

02:00:00 I hope that God like he gets other advice like other outside guidance yeah like somebody should be eating his food before he eats it right like honestly like that's just that the L if you have two assassination attempts as a sitting PR I used to think like five years ago or two years ago I would be like killing the US president is near impossible even getting a bullet off is you have a greater chance of like you know stabbing a shark right like this is not happening right like there's just no way honestly

02:00:28 I was like there's no way no one could ever kill a sitting president yeah and then you see two really close calls yeah you're like one that grazes his ear you don't foul that hard unless it's on purpose yeah the the US economy doesn't foul this hard unless it's on purpose yeah the the Wuhan thing with China like dude they were on the ropes what the tirus did he put on them the all the things the right was Biden's numbers were terrible Co happen shut down the economy like nobody knows how to handle that as a leader that's

02:01:00 going through they're trying to figure out what's the best way and he's taking advice and then yeah like Fouch ties to China and all fouy you know the NIH was funding Peter dashik with Eco Health Alliance who was then sending money to the Wuhan lab in China and then when the uh World Health Organization was doing their investigation Peter dashik was on the board that was doing the investigation I mean talk about an inside job it's obvious and you know and and what they've done so good is they've made telling the

02:01:37 truth uh an evil act you know oh you're lying I mean they flipped everything to where you know if people were to add up all of their lies and I'm not talking about Trump Lies by the way so Trump he exaggerates a lot and people will consider some of the stuff he says lies and sometimes he lies of course but his lies are different in the way that he's not turning a large group of society against the other side like the vaccines you know they said if you don't if if you don't get the vaccine or if you get

02:02:10 the vaccine you can't get Co then they said if you get the vaccine you can't spread Co then they said if you get the vaccine you can't die of covid so they went through all the and then you know this is a this this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated so they turned Society against you when all of it was [ __ ] it was they lied consistently The Mask oh you don't need a mask then they said oh a month later oh you need a mask I was just saying that because the healthcare workers need needed the mass

02:02:39 more so I lied he acknowledge he lied to the public then and then it turns out think about all the heat that we took over mass and Cochran did a metaanalysis study show showing that mass were not effective in society and that the cloth Mass were complete [ __ ] and I would have people at least wear a cloth mask and I mean just remember all the hate that was coming at us when we're like no this is [ __ ] we knew it was [ __ ] yet we had to seemingly conform with what Society was telling us was right

02:03:13 and wrong even when we knew they were full of [ __ ] is that like Nazi ER isn't a fascist I mean you see how they could throw us in a chamber man man you see 80% of the population was completely brainwashed I mean I say that because 80% or so in America got the vaccine yeah and you know were there some that didn't uh didn't want it sure but you know for the most part and there are studies that show that too it doesn't take you you had about 20% of people in society that can think rationally the

02:03:44 other 80% are going along with whatever side they're on I was looking for that quote last night cuz I I completely agree like they just believed it they went with you're like okay I'm like I feel like that is what what is happening during fascism that's like that is n you're going to do this or you're the villain like you are completely wrong yeah against everything like it's it's insane that's that's what they do I mean they say oh we weren't mandating the vaccine and and this is their logic to

02:04:09 people oh we weren't mandating the vaccine you just would lose your job well that's like a mandate you couldn't e a restaurant couldn't get groceries but you we weren't mandating no you could eat at home so it's like you know you want to just be beat those people up uh because it's so disingenuous like they're they're saying that and then the people that can't think for themselves they just repeat it you don't trust science you know all that [ __ ] trust science that was it oh trust science you're telling me to

02:04:41 trust science like I love science uh science is a big part of my life yeah but you're telling me that I'm anti-science antix or you know what are you talking about I'm just reading the data and you don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about but that's where they take they take that first level they see the the title they don't do any research and they trust it's just trust they trust yeah these individuals like I somebody that reads the regular media is like oh man they don't have an alternative motive right the [ __ ] they

02:05:13 don't their whole thing is an alternative motive paid from a corporation to get you to do something yeah to either vote for something to believe in something for somebody to make money at the end of the day it's like capitalism is went to the fullest extreme with these people or they're pure evil like I don't know this isn't capitalism it's corporatism corporations mix with government yeah me too but this is not capitalism yeah I mean this is corporations mixed with the government and they're pumping out [ __ ] and

02:05:46 they have the power of the government to force you into buying these uh these products taking this vaccine that they made hundreds of billions of dollars on you can't sue them taking a vaccine that they can't that that we can't sue them if you have uh damage and so you have all these pieces this is what's so hard you have all these pieces yet the other side right now wants to argue about it it's like how much more evidence do you need I would be better if he say I can't stand Trump but they would acknowledge all the

02:06:20 issues that I I'm bringing up yeah but somehow if they were to acknowledge that they would be for Trump or you know that's that's the boxes that that they put people in that's that's why it's hard it's it's why can't uh Society seemingly get along right now it's because the other side's so dishonest when it comes to uh how they're ruining our country the southern border you can't have a logical conversation about that Camala not going through a primary you can't have Lo there's no logical answer to that Joe Biden uh having uh

02:06:57 Dementia or some type of cognitive disability you can't even you can't even say that like this has gone on gone on gone on and and we've shown and even when they finally get the truth they don't acknowledge it so it's it's hard to have you know meaningful and TR trustful conversations with the other side when you know all they're doing is gaslighting yeah I I I completely agree man it's sometimes it's just like I just shut it off because I'm like I always I'm like um you know Mel Gibson from the

02:07:34 Patriot like I just want to sit there and build my rocking chairs right but if you [ __ ] come to my backyard I will start tomahawking everybody you know like that's just how I'm like I'm GNA [ __ ] be cool yeah I'm going to hang here you know like I'm like leave me the [ __ ] alone I think there's a lot of people that are like that like yeah do not come on my lawn like type [ __ ] you hurt my family you hurt my kids like then it's you're going to see people uh because it's just right now you're like

02:08:01 right now I can't do anything uh yeah we can have this podcast we can have this communication we could talk and maybe hopefully have these conversations but it's just harder and harder to have these conversations with people yeah you know what I mean like where you can go and change somebody's opinion like it's so hard now where you come with policies and facts like well that didn't say and I would have this AR all the time cuz like I residen you Dubai and when you're in Dubai you have like there's not a lot

02:08:26 of there's not a lot of Americans but it's like one like it's like Star Wars Cantina you have all these different countries all come together you can have dinner and all their guns are out the door you can have some really good conversations and I felt like in there you could I could be reasonable with people and argue my policy perspectives and give points of views and you could have that you can't do that in the US right you can't because people are like I don't know I saw some guy on Facebook

02:08:47 and he's like I saw what Trump did to New Yorkers my family lived there like you're talking about some [ __ ] 20 years ago you're just you have the Trump derangement syndrome yeah you're just really hate the guy like they hate the guy cuz they're they're brainwashed constantly they just see these articles like he's a felon he's this he's it's all lies yeah well and and they're brainwashed into just attacking anybody with a different idea or that points out facts the facts don't matter they they don't

02:09:17 matter I mean think about the list that we could make of all the ways we've been been lied to by the mainstream media since 2020 you know the list used to exist and you can't even Google it now oh really I tried the other day I was like I wanted to show how many times like Trump's been right that they fact checked yeah I can't there's no way to put it in Google to get that information yeah I mean I'm not surprised and you know we've been gaslit over and over I mean you think about the hypocrisy of the feminist movement and

02:09:49 trans so you know let's take abortion yeah they say women should have the right to choose this is a women's issue so if I identify as a woman do I now have a say in this you know if I'm a woman do I get the rights of a woman yeah is that just just because I say I'm a woman all of a sudden I get the women's rights you know but you know they also allow biological men uh that uh think that they're women or are women trans women uh to play in um uh female sports and at first the gas light in 2020 by the way was they were pushing a

02:10:28 scientific gas light like oh well the science says there's no difference yeah and enough people are like ah this is complete [ __ ] like we yeah bigger bone structure you know you have years of muscle memory you have all these things that we know yeah we know there's a difference between a man and a woman physically but they try to do the scientific argument for a while now there's just well you know I feel like they should be able to play in women's sports because it makes them feel better and competition doesn't they're trying

02:10:57 to eliminate watch like start noticing they're trying to eliminate actual competition they don't want competition because the more competition uh that we have the more people are going to try to fight back they want to make everything everybody gets a trophy that started probably 25 years ago everybody just got a trophy participation trophy not winning or losing and so this has been planned for a a long time you know we're just in the we're just kind of seeing it but this has been for a long time

02:11:27 [ __ ] live through the [ __ ] show yeah like what happened in mental institutes you know what I mean like honestly like we used that like I grew up in Philly like near a mental institute like we knew all that's where all the crazy people went did crazy people just stop happening right right like no they're on [ __ ] Instagram and they're saying now I'm a dude or I'm a girl and like you see their mentally have issues like they need help and am I saying that trans exist and somebody feels like they're in

02:11:55 the wrong body yeah but there's some dudes that are literally just [ __ ] crazy you know I mean like they're in a dress walking in and going into a kid's bathroom and things like that do you think it's a coincidence we're starting to see all these trans guys that are abusing children no it's just pedophiles are now putting themselves and saying they're that because then they get access to that yeah right like they're abusing it from Every Which Way so pandering for maybe the trans Community is I don't know 3% or [ __ ] 1%

02:12:24 whatever the [ __ ] it is but we're making rules for 99% of it yeah for the rest of us like that doesn't that doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever do I think there should be some rights for some people absolutely do I think uh like my here here's a great example my kids are like she was in kindergarten and luckily my wife was attending a school trip and I live in the south it should be a school trip it's supposed to be about play and it's just a musical we go through show opens up Pride flag

02:12:58 everywhere it's kindergarten pride flag everywhere two dudes dancing all these things and we're like these are kindergarteners right who the [ __ ] sign this play up yeah right like why is that even important right like my my daughter she maybe see a play about history right I don't know maybe about a father and mother in a family I don't know something that would make [ __ ] sense not that you know what I mean like it's just what is that alternative motive and why are you starting that young unless

02:13:27 it's an foreign government that is making and paying for this influence to desensitize and to feminize masculinity to its easier to conquer that well of course and you want to do away with the family if you have a strong family structure it's a lot harder to to take over than if you have a broken family you know the the if if you look in the black community you know number one reason there are there there's so much crime and uh poverty is because fatherless homes you you know if you take the father out of a home you know

02:14:02 you're going to have and and you're raising a boy you know he might be going a little while because a mother you know really by herself doesn't mean they can't a lot of mothers do great jobs single mothers do amazing jobs but generally they're not equipped to deal with uh a high energy uh boy and you know they they got to raise ra them to a man and they they do their best Etc but you know if you break up the family if you look at black lives matters one of the reasons I didn't support them in the

02:14:29 beginning was because it was on their website they wanted to do away with the nuclear family it was a complete communist organization yeah and that's another thing I was saying since 2020 how much have we been lied to people took it hook line and sinker they were supporting a communist organization that wanted to do away with the family structure in America how the hell is that supposed to help the black communities you want to have less fathers in the homes I know we've been going a while I want to get on to uh

02:14:57 alcohol armor when did you start the company how was that going yeah so I started alcohol armor uh with my work wife Jameson you know I think in business you always have to have that yingang you have your Scotty I got my Jameson right right like everything we do together you know what I mean like we're like it's my brother um from another mother and um so he had um he had like a CBD energy drink and he's like hey we need to go I was like bro CB and it was good he wanted to do it for like the day after a hangover to give

02:15:33 you an energy and chill out those vibes for it and he's like I want you to come to this company and I'm like dude I'm not doing CBD and I'm not doing energy regulations the laws the [ __ ] like you need to like for business it just wasn't a good fit but it really spurred me to start thinking of like when I was working Undercover I was taking concoction of pills to prevent a hangover because I'm working undercover getting banged up with cartels or whatever and you're drinking and then the next day you have to do surveillance

02:16:00 or follows or you know go back to a meeting so you really have to like live this life and there's just a few ingredients that was taken always um but I knew that there was other anti-hangover stuff out there nobody really took over the market nobody became the category King and I was like what if we turn it to liquid we make it taste good we make it zero calories and we sell where alcohol is consumed like you have to add convenience to the whole pipeline of drinking uh so we came out with alcohol armor it's a 2 O shot um

02:16:31 that you either put in your drink you take it as a shot one two so you can mix it could be a mixer tastes great and vodka sodas tequila sodas whatever um and then you have no hang over the next day and like we I had to I came up with the formula and I was drinking at the time and I was like goog I'm like what did the Chinese give alcoholics and the 1400 they like kudo's Roots I'm like put that [ __ ] in there yeah so like I put like a like I I beefed it up I found a bunch of thing like activated charcoal

02:16:58 so it absorbs the toins NAC that's going to repair your liver because they give you NAC at the hospital when you're OD on Tylenol because you die from liver failure you don't die from the Tylenol interesting so we're souping up and recharging your liver milk thistle for your liver um asparagus extract for your liver um to really streamline it so absorb the toxin streamline so I I did a some biohacking in my room of like putting this together a chemist out of California and like the first night I

02:17:24 probably took like $700 worth of vodka sodas in my face like I'm going to test this thing yeah and I had to play like paintball with some billionaire kid you know for we were raising money for our foundation like I was running I was puking I'm like still functioning and I was up on time I was like there's something to this and so we started playing with it and then uh you know last year we went out to Vegas and taking over the city man we took down wi we took out Encore got the big clubs we're in some of the pools at Caesars

02:17:52 Resort World Hilton um just kind of took an idea concept and realized that there's nothing that sat nobody took over the market yet and so and it's a billion Doll Market wow yeah I mean that's uh it's it's a good product I've used it as well and uh it saved my ass from a horrible hangover um out in out in Vegas actually once the first time in Nashville first time first time that we met was in Nashville I it was a day before the uh uh operation um light shine Gala here and uh yeah that that sa you and Michael

02:18:28 Ray I think right that's right yeah we were going at it um but uh yeah I mean it's a it's an interesting product because you know a lot of the nightclubs across the country could you know add those to the table and say hey when you're done when you're do you drink it during I forget during or after while you're consuming you put in no convenience like obviously you want just while you're consuming because you want to battle at one once it gets in your blood you're going to have a lot of damage we could still do a lot of work

02:18:55 when it's in your blood but it's like why are you consuming and now we had we were starting to get dated behind it so one of the hotels basically gave when one when they came in they bought a bottle they got a free 12pack and when they did this right they monitored all their key cards too and so when they did this instead of buying two bottles which a crew would normally buy two they were buying three okay right because you're also not as you're not as sloppy right you're consuming it you're clearing

02:19:19 because it's just a science behind it right I can't say that it's not going to make you less drunk you're still having all we're just removing the toxins from your body while you're doing it and then they spending more money in hotels in the casinos so now they have a stat so we're rolling out for like 360 rooms in one of the biggest hotels and they're going to be monitoring or giving it for free because they're paying $24 yeah and then they're costing $800 for a bottle right so it's like it's a no-brainer

02:19:44 it's a no-brainer on mathematics on hotels casinos Cruise Lines um Cruise Lines is where we're going to next and in in a club environment in a bar so if you're in Vegas you charge as much as one drink yeah or if you're in Nashville you would charge one extra drink so like Kid Rocks place if you're drinking 10 beers you put one of them in there well guess what you're probably going to be back again the next day yeah and you're going to spend even more money because you're not hung over right so how how is

02:20:09 the the business going how many cities are you in with it yeah so right now we pretty much took over Vegas we're running out in 711s in Chicago we just picked up a th stores in Canada we went from first year 200 50,000 sales to this year we're projected for 3 mil nice um so good growth um great growth not bad for two army veterans have no idea what the [ __ ] they're doing that we're like we're going to take over this market and yeah I really get after it so I mean you're pretty much everywhere in Vegas

02:20:38 aren't you we're in a lot of places right like Vegas is Big yeah but we're we're in the big boys we're in the nightclubs yeah once you get an EXs you know you're an Encore Beach Club we have all the big names um for the win an amazing property like they love it they see the value and usually the wind sets a standard for Vegas um so it's it's just a matter of time before we take over the whole city yeah I mean I've seen you in in a lot of places and I know that you were out there uh really grinding it out dude it was [ __ ] yeah

02:21:06 like because I was like Vegas is going to make or break this company so like I was like this year I'm getting in a condo I'm going to be out there and like everybody told me no they're like it's not going to work and I just started annoying people and then they stopped telling me no they're like all right we'll give you a shot you know we'll put you on the menu and after that it was just game on man like we uh just started grinding it was crazy man like if you would have asked me like two years ago

02:21:32 that i''d be all all these properties with this product I'd be like you're crazy yeah like that's the end goals to kind of get there and now 7-Elevens and you know Amazon's blowing up and growing and cuz once it works for you you're [ __ ] yeah you know it's it's like it's pretty went we I was telling people it's funny is cuz we used to go uh to the bar and restaurant um conference and their first year was like two or three years ago two or three years ago and we had a tent in the very back and like I had a

02:21:55 cardboard sign and all it said was like your first hit's free and it was a little cardboard sign and we were in the very corner and like completely sold out of our product people were coming up and then this year we like gave out thousands and thousands of bottles and was just one of those things where it just keeps kind of compounding on each other yeah absolutely it's just a grind and getting after it um you know what are your goals over the next five years with alcohol alcohol armor especially

02:22:20 seeing how well it works yeah so for um I mean we'll sell I would imagine in 3 to five we'll we'll exit to one of the big boys as you start you know grabbing this Market you know I'm pretty much out of the day-to-day now Jameson runs that we have distributor Network set up and so I'm already off to my next adventure it's I'm a innovator Creator I come in create it get it going let other people run it organize it and you know like it's Alo armor is not my legacy I my boy James said it best he's like you know

02:22:52 Alo armor is going to change my life but my next company is going to change the world type deal I love it yeah U are you are you able to talk about the digital Legacy yeah I can't just talk about that one thing we the lawsuit side of things for the patent infringement I can't talk into depth for that but yeah so a digital Legacy it goes um back to to really like a need you know so like three and a half years ago what what is digital Legacy yeah so it's Su what I noticed was the problem we have like during that Suicide

02:23:21 Prevention project some of these cell phones were unlocked and you have parents going through their data right uh and so right now we're at a point with our data where we give 100% of our data or we give none of our data and online like why am I saving my dad's voice messages my I save his voicemails right like why am I still at that point in time and in reality when somebody dies your legacy you're forgotten like two years if that you get buried like you me and I will know each other but but like how hard is it for you to find

02:23:52 a photo of me or us together right like they really go through that if you're not having it like even or organize that there's no real cation of content MH and then another problem set was like I was working undercover in Haiti and I was like I just want to send like it was I was doing a stupid Mission it was pretty [ __ ] dumb but I was like dude I'm like I just want to send a message to my girls and my son like that hey I love you like here's some really good things that I just want you to know that and I

02:24:18 had no way to kind of leave that behind no like we a dead man switch like if I die this happens there's no dead man switch and no curation of content so data is getting buried security is getting harder or is coming fully unlocked you don't want that to happen and so is a way to curate your content for your loved ones and so you can say is like for my wife or for anybody if uh you get these photos you get this data if I die you can come forward with my death certificate and then unlock your data for the individuals we have the

02:24:49 ability to save on the blockchain so we're talking about interplanetary file system so we don't know if we're going to be in cell phones in 5 years you have future messaging you're going to be able to do and then look if you look at the crypto what do you do with your wallet your crypto wallet right now right you got to go to a bank leave a past phrase hopefully then leave it in a whe for it there's no process first you can sign up for digital Legacy you can give the code and say hey wife sign up when I die you

02:25:14 get this maybe you don't like your wife and you want a will to go to your kids you save your digital will through the [ __ ] trusted Network on the blockchain and you give a whole different will to your kids yeah it's a way to really take your content and then the other side is like me and you like say we're partying we're going through you sign up for the system I'm the system every time we take a photo it's going to scan the face it's going to know it's your photo it's going to put your put the picture of us in our

02:25:38 buckets together I see and in Ed's bucket and my bucket so we know that I can go through and I can see my data and then use computer vision to rank and stack your your stuff so that's amazing yeah so I got the patent back on it which I was like completely blown away um you just got the patent back right yeah in July nice but it was crazy is there was a big Tech firm that they don't know an employee stole it and launched it and so I had to wait until I got the patent to be able to then launch the company so it was one of those

02:26:05 things to just kind of wait an hour around for it and so yeah well it's a it's a damn good idea and that that might be your I mean alcohol armor too could be a big one man I mean you know you you build to a certain point I think starting those companies are the hardest but once you've built a little bit of brand um and you're in the places that you're in I mean you got the the social credibility now to uh you know just spread that sucker out but this one is one of those that uh you know could be a

02:26:38 game changer because it's it's it's much needed now that you have the patent uh that's that's your idea bro it's I like man it's it's crazy just to think that right now why don't we have this already yeah how cool would it be to be able to you to create your legacy and say these are the 10 things about me and it only goes to them or you make it public right like you think it's a coincident you have NFL players have NFL kids no no it's a generational knowledge so this is going to be a way to preserve your

02:27:05 generation now if you take it one step further to the to the full extreme how do you create your avatar your AI Avatar of who you are without the history of who you are ah interesting yeah the evolution yeah yeah alter carbon if seen a show of like how to preserve of who you are for the future to then if I can make you do certain things and I can then curate your voice and your persona and your life and then preserve your life for your kids your grandkids everybody else can't do that without the

02:27:36 history that's interest and you have all these people you have apple we in these data prisons between we in Apple or Google how hard is it to go from Apple to Android pretty hard impossible [ __ ] impossible pretty much right cuz you're in data prisons but if you have a nucleus in between it's a it's quick transition that's awesome it's a quick switch over Facebook Instagram if you would have died 15 years ago you would have remembered on MySpace I would have what you would have been remembered on MySpace M you I mean

02:28:03 like dude [ __ ] that's my legacy I'm on MySpace yeah oh [ __ ] you know like I still got the music playing from 311 in me Hawaii yeah exactly oh you're top eight yeah yeah so it's like for me I've always um like I've always been inventing you know but but I come from like a very low course my mom got get mad cuz I said I came from a poor family this y for a very low middle class family in Philly and uh like I always had an invention book and I would always draw them come up with them have them

02:28:35 and then no [ __ ] like somebody else would create it it would come to life and I was like damn I had it I but I didn't know how to take that first step I didn't know how to go zero to one I didn't know like where do you go with it now it's like it's cost me money but I'm like I'm going to [ __ ] try like I'm just going to figure this out like maybe I need to fly to China and find something toot it probably not the best thing like I got a patent around like Hardware with helmets like I bought a 3D

02:28:58 printer I probably spent 30 days of trying to unfuck this I've never printed something you know like like spent like five grand I didn't have to try to build something on this 3D printer because I thought that was a waste it was like trial and error you know so I spent like there's I think there's a quote it's like you spent five years you know not getting rich but learning lessons to get good right like there's like something along those lines um and for it so yeah so alcohol armor running now let's move off to this next

02:29:26 startup in Tech and super excited alcoh armor though if you know anybody looking for some celebrities oh yeah you know like there's few guys out there were like hey I think you'd be a good fit man I'll uh I mean I can get it yeah I can actually once some ambassadors we know this will work for him like Hey give a bunch of our friends yeah I'm going to see jelly I think next we dud he would be perfect him and post Malone are like the two too ideal like yeah um yeah we could also give to Yellow Wolf yellow wolf uh his crew goes pretty

02:29:59 hard yeah I'm like yud test this out and tell me this is not Liquid Gold that's all I'm saying because if you drink and it's like and if it doesn't work for you you're [ __ ] anyway you know like you're like if this doesn't work for you yeah it's uh it's one of those things where you just kind of keep going and it's pretty unreal though cuz you almost quit along the way you know what I mean like how many times this is our third bottle change our second name change you know like the name is actually pretty

02:30:25 funny because I was in uh Bogota Columbia and we were we were out night drinking we were going to cart to handed to work undercover and I had the little sample bottles and it was called not today n2d okay and then uh I left them in my apartment in Bogata and sure as [ __ ] we're in cart to hand I'm walking through like the Oldtown and I was like bro this is like going to war without body armor I can do it mhm I'm probably going to get shot in my [ __ ] chest you know cuz I had this test was I was

02:30:55 like alcohol armor and I was like and that's where the name came from was like it's your body now granted you can still get shot in your face if you drink a fifth of [ __ ] whiskey yeah you'll probably need like 15 of these exactly yeah well that's good though I mean you know have you ever thought about really coming to Nashville and doing you know like yeah because Nashville you know with all the musicians it's like you know next to Vegas I guess Nashville is probably the biggest party Market you

02:31:20 know like people that are out going crazy Market we just did a did the CMA the Dustin Lynch uh he's we sponsored a few of his events so far nice um in the next month we're going to be like it was our goal was Vegas take it over Nashville Miami New York perfect perfect you know [ __ ] Kelly good means we get to see you more here yeah exact oh dud absolutely man I'll be I'll be flying in wait anything else uh in closing man we've been going for about two and a half hours dude no man I had such a blast man I feel like I had to talk for

02:31:47 you for like five easily I's let's go uh let do it again sometime yeah man absolutely thanks boss thank you brother appreciate it