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I was so focused on the big picture crazy things the world's collapsing all that and but focus on what you have at

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arms length build your foundation focus on your family your

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loved ones find love build a family if you don't have one you know work hard to

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improve yourself to help your loved ones all that are things that everyone can

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agree upon get motivated by feel proud of and doing that also gives you

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something in common with the other fellow good man who's on that

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path Brando Eaton welcome to the podcast thank you sir what's what's going on

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today uh today's a chill day it's nicer weather it's it's not too hot out and

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got some work done some calls done got a quick workout in and came to hang out with my friend I know I'm glad that

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you're you're here I've been wanting to do this for for a while yeah yeah I think that's exciting you're

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doing this yeah man thanks this the whole idea of doing a podcast yeah we were doing one I guess before the

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pandemic and then uh the pandemic happened and we just started it like two

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months before and then through a wrench and everything you know our lives were turned upside down so yeah this is the

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the next iteration of it yeah well this this is good and you're always great at

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talking to people asking questions I always noticed that about you so I mean I think this is right up your alley too yeah thanks man thanks man dude what's

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been up with the weather this year we got rain last year there was no rain like I don't know I don't control the

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weather anymore you don't um no I I don't know um I have to

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say I I was spoiled coming from Los Angeles like I never lived anywhere I've traveled a lot but I never lived

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anywhere that had Seasons like this and then I come here and it's it's shocking

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I'm like oh there's winter oh there's summer where I can't even go outside like it's very different I was spoiled

Growing up in LA, Early Life in El Segundo. Family Dynamic

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yeah you grew up in Los Angeles right yeah born and raised yeah so what was what was that like kind of like take us

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through your your childhood and and uh up until I guess was Nashville the first place you moved from La yeah yeah I've

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lived different places for work but like officially moving uh yeah Nashville is the first one um you know a lot of

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people wonder what life was like in LA big city and all that but I kind of grew up in a smaller town by the beach so I

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was kind of out of the LA bubble what to Elsa gundo Okay um so that was you know

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not as much in that's not like I grew up in Hollywood it wasn't until my teens that I got into more the Hollywood world

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but uh yeah it was a I'd say a little bit of a different upbringing because my family Dynamic was different uh my

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father wasn't around as my father um he was more friends with my mother my

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mother's physically handicapped and so it was a big goal in her life to have a child and the doctors you know were like

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oh you can't have a kid you'll die this or that she was like she had arthritis as a kid it fused all her bones together

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so she has about 5% mobility of a normal person and so she you know she liked my

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father and wanted to you know she just thought genetically he would make the best child of her friends that she It's

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Kind of a Funny you know different odd story and um and so he wasn't he was

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around in the sense of more like a friendly sense I would see him here and there and and to this day where we

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obviously keep in touch and uh he's a great guy but he was not he did not raise me and so it was just me and my

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mother so single mother yeah only child and uh you know I guess when you were

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going well at what point did you like get introduced to the the Playboy

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mansion that's story that people love um it's totally random really um so my aunt

Living at the Playboy Mansion

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was married to Barry Gordy who started mtown records um a big uh record company

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company um you mtown you know music huge in the 50s 60s '70s if I'm saying that

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right ' 80s even um but anyway they're still around and so my aunt was married to him he's good friends with Hugh

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Hefner or was and um so my aunt became good friends with him as well and um his

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wife at the time now ex-wife Kimberly Hefner and so they would bring me around

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and I became friends with his kids U Marson and Cooper Hefner who um I'm not

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as in touch with anymore but uh they were good buddies of mine uh when we were growing up and so it was kind of a

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a random situation where I would be there all the time and um I was always

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fighting with my mother we were always fighting she um you know it's it's such a different Dynamic growing you know

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because I had to take care of her growing up she's physically handicapped well at the same time she's raising a kid so we're kind of like raising or

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taking care of each other very weird family Dynamic and um so we we were

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always butting heads and she had problems with painkillers at the time and stuff she's she's now past all that

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but uh so it kind of threw for a loop but anyway um that was tough for me and

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so it it made me very independent so I did get a lot of positive growth out of it kind of had to raise myself in a lot

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of ways not all the ways but some ways and uh so at 15 about 15 um we just

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reached a breaking point and I moved out so I moved out of the house and you can't get an apartment on your

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own at that time nor did to have the money to so um I just kind of took my

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stuff to the Playboy mansion and they were cool with it they were cool with letting me you know oh yeah just come

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here and just kind of kept going and it's funny I I I went into one of the

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rooms I would stay a lot in one of the rooms um I stay with the kids in Kimberly a lot they live next store but

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then there was a room across from Hugh Hefner's room in the Playboy Mansion that was empty at the time so I'd be there alive lot and um I think when they

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filmed the show it's now one of the bunny rooms they painted it pink or something if I'm remember incorrectly uh

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this was you know years ago was 15 and uh maybe 16 but um anyway so I would

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stay there and I'd run into Hugh Hefner in the Halls all the time and he just kind of assumed I was supposed to be there because he would see me all the

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time with his family too but he never really asked questions I would you know he's the door across for mine it's a

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long haul but she like oh hello hello like just kind of normal and I just to

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room service all the time and hang out and go to The Grotto and it was actually

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pretty chill it was pretty fun but it is also kind of a weird dynamic for a child to be around because it was it's not

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it's not as pornographic as you would assume in the sense of just make you know stuff everywhere and you know

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people screwing here it wasn't like that um especially when the kids were around like they didn't allow us to the parties

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you know things like that um but at the same time there's still stuff around and uh so you

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you are exposed to a lot more than maybe I wouldn't want a child exposed to right

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um it is more common place and normal there and then of course as a teenager like you know when they had like game

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days where like the naked girls would be outside in the yard while he uh Hugh was playing like games uh back gameing or

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whatever he liked to play with his friends it was game day so they would have the girls out and so I would hide a

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inner tube Outside The Grotto uh in the pool like um um outside where the exit

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of The Grotto is if you swim under the tunnel and so I would hide an inner tube there and so I'd go into The Grotto cuz

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I was allowed over there but I wasn't allowed outside so then I swim under the tunnel and I pop up in the inner tube

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and I have my little you know hidey-hole going around looking at all the naked girls yeah I was a 15-year-old boy yeah

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what are you supposed to do yeah yeah exactly that's awesome did you ever uh sneak into any any of the parties um not

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when I was a kid later I started going to the parties so then I would go to the parties and um it was very fun um but

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it's funny so I have a a a good friend of mine at the time I actually you know like kind of advised her to that it was

Parties at the Playboy Mansion, The Unspoken Rules of Parties in LA

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okay to do Playboy she was a model at the time we were friends probably since I was 18 and she was very worried to do

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Playboy and I was like oh you know it's tasteful like it's fine like anyway uh we stayed very good friends she became a

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Playboy model and he was obsessed with her he he was obsessed with her because

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he said that she reminded him of his first love and he really wanted to marry her

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but she wasn't she wasn't down with that so um he ended up marrying who we married and anyway we stayed good

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friends and we go to the parties and stuff and what happened at one point Hugh was getting much older at this

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point you know kind of probably losing his bra brain cells a bit you know all what I don't I don't know what it was

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but you know scile scile is what I'm trying to think of um and and so at one

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point he barged in her room with a printed out photo of me he's

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like who's this and she's like that's Brando you you know who that is you know he's

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friends with your your family and he's like oh and he like barges out ends up

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um somebody spread a rumor that it was it was a girl that um spread a rumor

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that I was sleeping with her and he you know he's was very protective and even

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at especially at that point you know jealous of the girls you know very protective of what they did and stuff

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and and uh he was very unhappy and um it wasn't true it was a

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rumor we were just friends but at that point you know she hits me up it was I think it was like the Halloween party or there was some party that night she's

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like I don't know what's going on he bars in my room with a fot like and she she like maybe you shouldn't come to the

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party I'm like no I'm still going to come and um it felt like I was in a a James Bond movie so I'm at this party

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and security is following me around everywhere and ends up they have a little photo of me so they can keep tabs

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on me and they're literally like like you know I feel like it was literally a spy like having to Avid security and all

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that and anytime I'll go up and say hi to her something like security would surround us be like oh you I I don't

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want to say names but you you're needed somewhere else and they would take her away from me and I'm like this is this

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is weird the the funny thing is I was friends with his kids though so like during the parties you're not supposed

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to go in the house but I would go with the kids into the house so then security is kind of torn cuz they're like uh he's

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not supposed to you know do anything and now you're bringing him in the house but they also don't want to say no to the kids kind of like next in line to the

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throne and um so it's a funny Dynamic and ends up uh at the end of the night

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the party was over I was in the dining hall just eating some late night snacks finally the kids went off and hung out

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with their girlfriends or whatever so I was alone with my buddy that I brought and security swooped in and kicked me out and um she actually drove me back to

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my car cuz you have to park somewhere else buses take you and this was like 4 in the morning probably at this point

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and so she drives me and Security's following us we get to the parking lot Security's everywhere and they're by the

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car just standing there trying to act nonchalant and I actually had this on a on a phone video I was recording cuz she

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was hilarious we we drive by and they have shirts on that say like protect and serve She Drives By and she's like what

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are you guys doing and they like uh uh she goes protecting and serving like

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yeah it's like okay keep protecting and serving was just it was funny like out of a movie but that might have been one

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of the last parties I actually went to I don't remember at this point but kind of a funny did you uh remember you or was

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it like I um I did hear that some of the family members kind of or his ex-wife

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kind of she heard about it and barged in on him later it's like what are you doing like it's like a family friend and

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like and um I never really chatted with him at that point so I didn't know know

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this was towards the end of his life I see so I don't know how far gone he was at that point like they would take him

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out to to show face but it was like he's in his robe and they're like kind of carrying him at that point so so I don't

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even blame him I he was probably pretty far gone yeah got it what was it like uh

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you know th those parties and stuff like um you know you did you go to the the playbo Mansion you know over over the

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years yeah yeah um as far as for the parties yeah I mean they were wild parties for sure they weren't like how

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they were in the 70s and ' 80s not like I was alive then but you would hear stories they were very uh debaucherous

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and uh drug fueled sex fueled and obviously they're still kind of that or they were still kind of that but at the

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point I started going it was more corporatized I see so uh there was a lot more oversight there were companies

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coming in like buying pieces of the brand to r or whatever they were doing so um it wasn't like a private house

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party that's crazy and all everything goes it was uh more corporatized at that

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point and plus the girls and the people that went in the past were like cream of the crop top celebrities top this top

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that once it became more corporatized it kind of became trashier and trashier and so I think that drove away a lot of you

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know the classier crowd that you know maybe would have gone to the parties previously they didn't NE they wouldn't

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necessarily partake in the debauchery but just it was also you know there was also a classier vibe to it if you stayed

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away from the debauchery uh it kind of it covered all bases and it started lacking that I see yeah the the parties

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in in LA are so weird uh I remember gosh this is probably 18 years ago or so my I had a

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girlfriend who was living in Los Angeles we did it for for four years and uh she was modeling at a party you know

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whatever that is you know they hire pretty girls to walk around or whatever right and um she's like oh no you can

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come you know just come at the end to pick me up and so there's like a gate and then a gate to the house there like

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the security gate in the front of the neighborhood and then you know somehow I got through I don't remember how I got through that that first security gate

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and uh I go in there and I was definitely not invited yeah like they're

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like who is this guy yeah walking in in my house and uh uh you know it was it

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was it was kind of a weird vibe and uh security came up and said oh who are you with oh I'm picking up my girlfriend and

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uh I got kindly escorted out yeah and uh you know there's been there were a few

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other instances like that where you know my friends who were who were uh female

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not even necessarily my my girlfriends uh they would say oh come to this party you know and then I get there and

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they're like what are you doing here you know uh when a girl asks you to go to a party in in LA or if it's at some

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Mansion like you're probably actually not invited you are not invited that's absolutely true yeah it's very clicky in

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that sense and um yeah I those are things that I wasn't really fond of I

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mean it's fun when you're younger and then as you get older it's like I want to stay away from the the trash and you

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know you know crowds that you want to you know avoid if you're trying to be on the right path um so there is a lot of

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that and then it's also you know when moved here I thought Oh leaving the land of opportunity like what the hell am I

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going to do in Nashville um and and also you know coming from the entertainment world it's like how am I you know I

Brando Coming to Nashville, Nashville vs LA, Clout Chasers

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guess that's done but I will say Nashville's been very productive and very great in a lot of ways because yeah

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I may not have as many people as LA and as much money as La you know things like that but it's very hard you know I grew

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up there my whole life and still like it's very hard to network or you know meet Good People Meet genuine people and

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actually get ideas and business is going because it's very clicky it's very hard to get into a different click especially

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the top level the millionaires the the billionaires at that point like it is very clicky and it's very hard to pierce

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that that Veil and uh whereas in Nashville it's more small town everyone knows everyone which has its advantages

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and disadvantages but it's been good for meeting people and actually finding like-minded people people that are

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interested in different businesses and you know and it's it's really open a lot of the doors in the business sense while

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still doing entertainment yeah it is interesting I mean La is a a whole other animal you talking about not finding

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good people there are good people of course in La you can meet some but um it is kind of hard to you know navigate

16:45

socially uh on something you know like where you're just trying to be friendly when it's a different barometer they're

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they're going based off of clout and what they think you can do for them yes

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uh rather than you know what kind of person you are absolutely it's it's filled with the clout Chasers and I will

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say there's a lot of that in Nashville too there's a lot changing now you know Nashville's changed so much when I grew

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up like you would never ask for a picture with somebody like that was kind

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of off limits it was kind of a known it was a code you know you don't go up to a celebrity and ask uh ask for pictures

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and um you know now it's just it's like a free-for-all if you go out um you know

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there is that there is clout chasing now more than

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more than ever and I think it's probably because you know Nashville uh the original Nashville is a specific culture

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you know and there was there's a lot of respect and you know you you build relationships and and those type of

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things within the city and you know people that move here they have different uh uh a different idea of what

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that is you know and it's it it is becoming a little bit more you know in some ways like La it's a lot

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different than LA but you know in those ways that where the things that aren't really important in life like you know

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uh you know how many followers you have or if you're on TV or what whatever that is uh become more important to some some

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people that's true and that that does suck that that's becoming part of the Nashville culture um because it you know

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I I and I wanted to escape that by leaving La and then in some ways I'm like oh in some ways I mov to little La

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uh and so that I'm not happy about that side of it and another part that kind of

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it's tough I guess it's a double-edged sword so coming from LA and working in entertainment so long you know people

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you know in La no one cared like yeah I was on TV shows and movies but I wasn't a huge star like I was in good stuff but

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it's not like I'm Brad Pit or something sure and so in La um it's normal right

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it's common place then you move here and it is a little bit of that big fish small pond mentality of uh oh cool

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you're on TV like it's it's less common here and there are advantages to that where it helps you meet people and it

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opens a lot of doors and I've met a lot of great people through it just going out and you know you know even going to

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your parties and you know stuff like that um so that's nice but on the flip side it also getes gives you unwanted

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attention MH and I don't even mean like oh someone wants my photo or something like that's fine uh but it's more

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everyone has something to say about you uh suddenly you know you're you're more of a talking point almost like you know

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High School like yeah there was a popular kid in school people want to talk about I'm not saying popular but

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I'm just saying it's that Dynamic whereas I kind of was nothing in La like just kind of Blended in it was very

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normal MH and then here it's like I'm hearing rumors of people talking about

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me and I'm like I don't even know who that person is and things posted online and all that stuff happens all the time

19:53

from people that don't even know me it's like people feel cool having something to say and then you feel cooler if it's

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something negative yeah I mean it's just a yeah that's such a I mean just in

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general in life it's such a nasty thing you know for uh for people to be like

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that and the main thing is just separate you know it's pretty easy Once you you you see people doing that like okay I

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don't want to hang out with that group and you know we have a pretty good Core group of friends in Nashville and I'm

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fortunate because I've been here my whole life I've got a bunch of different groups you know of friends but uh I feel

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like it's still pretty easy to pick and choose who you want to be friends with and who align with your values and you

20:35

know those people you know uh they don't align a 100% And it's easy to avoid them

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and even um I growing up in Hollywood and being on TV I I did have to work on

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having that confidence within yourself to not care about what others think of you MH especially strangers I care about

20:56

what what loved ones and people whose opinions I value I care I care what they think about me but strangers I don't

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care and that struck me a lot because I would see big stars that I'd work with and they're seeing things posted on

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Twitter things that people are saying about them and just it's affecting them like really negatively affecting them

21:15

and so um quickly it becomes luckily with My Philosophy background and things

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like that I really Dove deep into working on myself and my mind and all that to kind of build up the right

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defense me mechanisms for that to where genuinely I don't care what a Str like why do you value that person's opinion

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you don't know them at all and even if they're coming out negative like that or whatever it's you probably really don't

21:40

value their opinion or value them as a person as much and so there is a good defense mechanism built there but I will

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say there's one avoidable problem and what that is is how it affects people

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that you do care about or you may care about in the future mhm meaning if somebody's researching you let's say you

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go on a first date and you don't know who that person is you're researching them you see all this negative stuff

22:03

online or whatever that's your first impression sure you're now tentative you're now maybe not want to go on you

The Open-Season Online Landscape, Chaos in the Comment Section on Instagram

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don't want to go on that date you don't trust that person you have more walls up it does affect people that are in your

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life or may be in your life at some point and that's the unavoidable part

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that's that's sad that sucks that yeah it is tough uh you know I think you know

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we're the first time in Civilization per se uh as We Know It uh that people can

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post online there wasn't an online 25 years ago pretty much um that can make

22:42

you know bad comments I think though you know in many ways

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we're we're kind of used to it now because it's been going on for now now let's say 20 years you know there's been

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social media forums and and different forums and uh so we're kind of you know used to you know we might not take it as

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serious uh what we read online about people and uh you know it's it's more

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about really getting to know them uh you know rather than that first impression

23:14

you know you're you're definitely correct but my thing is if someone doesn't like me because of something

23:19

that's posted online like that's their loss right you know little different

23:26

View and and you're right you're right but you know people make mistakes and people don't know and people have

23:31

certain guards up and so that's just where it just does suck it just does suck yeah I mean you know the comment

23:36

sections too uh people can just be so mean um you know I hear Joe Rogan's like

23:42

I don't read the comments you know that's that's his thing I I won't read comments and uh I still do read some

23:48

comments I I don't read them all but uh you know when you really read what uh a certain section of

23:56

society says like and you read read the comments and like how people think I mean I was reading a comment uh

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last night and it was two people arguing on on my uh Instagram and the one guy

24:13

was just such an [ __ ] to the other person basically saying you're stupid you're worthless the guy had said he was

24:19

libertarian and the guy had all the different ways to trash you know that

24:24

and um you know I was kind of thankful after reading it I'm like I'm so glad

24:31

that I don't I don't think like that I don't carry that hate right and anger in

24:37

my heart to try to put somebody else down you know for for really nothing

24:43

just saying what he believes right and that's what the internet is is full of

24:48

um yeah it's really changed that Dynamics it's so different from talking to someone in person or even if you're

24:55

kind of uh let's just say you are kind of mentally messed up up and full of hate and you know kind of a mess when you're sitting down in front of someone

25:00

looking them in the eyes even that type of person it's going to change how you interact with someone sure and um and

25:08

there's more repercussions to your actions too in person and so that the internet gives people that barrier and

25:14

lets lets the worst come out in people and in some ways it incentivizes it too

25:19

and so that is that is the problem with how does that incentivize it what do you think because because there's no repercussions because um you could let

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out all your frustrations all your angers all the all the stuff that might be even more stored towards the back and

25:32

it kind of incentivizes it to come towards the front CU you're you're now able to focus on what you hate you're

25:37

able to focus on your problems you're able to let out your anger of whatever your dog [ __ ] on your carpet now you

25:44

can let it out on a stranger in the YouTube comment section like um in that way it lets you open up those doors that

25:50

would be usually harder to open yeah well that's a good point no repercussion like you know if you wouldn't say it to

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some somebody's face why would you say it in a comment you know yeah and they will because there's no repercussions yeah it's like ah some of these people

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though I mean I feel like they need to get punched in the face yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of that too I me you look

26:11

at some of this stuff like man I mean I'm a pretty nice guy I wouldn't you know ever start a fight or anything I

26:16

like to stand up against bullies yeah but uh you know some of the ways that they talk to people like man if you said

26:24

that to me I'd probably knock you out yeah yeah it's true and that's yeah I

26:29

mean I avoid it too at this point in my life like I think uh a lot of that negativity is is if it's not adding a

26:38

value or it's not giving me something to learn from in that sense I'm okay I'm okay with criticism I'm even okay with

26:43

seeing some negativity sure that I can I can now I now have the tools necessary

26:48

to push out the negative and understand where it's that you know that might be coming from a negative place but that

26:53

was a good point that was a good point I'm going to taken that that as constru constructive criticism um I think that's

27:00

that's fine to do but uh negativity just for the point of negativity I have too much stuff going

27:06

on in my life too much too much to do too many goals too much uh that is more

27:11

important than letting that stuff drag me down or you know getting consumed by it yeah it's I think it's easier now

Social Media Algorithms and Their Influence, Sexual Promiscuity on Social Media

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than ever in some ways uh because you know we have an algorithm that's showing

27:27

us things every day on on social media and uh you know the longer that we're spending on uh Instagram or Twitter or

27:35

whatever it is Tik Tok now um I don't have a Tik Tok but I know a lot of people are on there um the the better

27:42

chance we have to be really influenced you know by that what what do you think about the yeah I mean that's

27:49

true and then plus that's how their algorithms work right they kind of they do two things they make it an

27:55

echo chamber to where it's just giving you what you want to see so you're not seeing opposing sides anymore which is

28:01

harmful in a lot of ways and some of those algorithms are used for uh

28:07

negative things to put you down dark paths or or even you know and that's where it goes into you know pornographic

28:13

stuff for things to um take you down a negative path mentally uh in life that I

28:19

think a lot of those things are are harmful for for people it's like friend say man all I all I see is uh women in

28:28

bikinis on my Instagram now I'm like well that's cuz you're clicking on it the algorithms feeding you what you want to see and it's it's true it's true and

28:35

I even my feed was full of that CU I followed so many I used to just follow like everyone oh hot girl you know

28:40

single dude a hot girl follow follow follow follow yeah I didn't even care I um and the and the problem with that is

28:47

like I didn't think anything of it it's like it's the internet who cares but I was just seeing that on my feet and

28:53

these are girls that I'm not gonna I don't want to date them mhm there aren't girls I care to know most of them I'm

28:59

not saying all of them but um I don't know them and that when they're leading with just their selling point is sex ass

29:08

and titties when that's all they have and that's what they're putting out there all the time that's personally not a type of girl that I would want to date

29:14

so why am I following them why am I um putting that in front of my face all the time and I actually recently went

29:21

through and I it was tough that Instagram makes it makes it hard to delete people um I don't know why they

29:29

need to change that um but it took me forever but I was just deleting like

29:34

everyone I deleted everything now my feed is full of cat and puppy videos I

29:39

think it's I think it's hard to uh unfollow them if uh if their page is

29:44

private not hard but you got to have an extra step of hitting that click so it's priv there's extra step but also let me

29:50

just select everyone I want like oh yeah and there's only so many you can do in a day okay so i' go through boom boom

29:56

delete boom boom delete boom boom delete okay well that's three out of 3,000 I need to delete it's like Max you've hit

30:03

your max number yeah it'll say like they do it so it's not like a Spam thing or like some AI account or some that's what

30:09

they it says some warning it's like you've reached your limit of what you can do today yeah and you know I'll uh

30:16

I'll have people come up in my feed that I didn't follow that I'm following now do you ever have that happen um it followed people for you yes

30:24

I don't know for sure there are some people I'm like I do not know who this person is really I still follow too many

30:30

people for me to even tell I honestly barely look at my feet yeah I don't I don't follow I mean I I was falling over

30:35

a thousand and then I just basically went through and you know it's pretty

30:40

much just people that I know you know now maybe there's a couple that I don't really know them like you know maybe

30:47

Robert F Kenedy Jr I'm following right now I don't know him but you know sure counts like that but uh yeah it's it's

Thoughts on Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Over-saturation of Information, Ron Paul and Politics

30:55

it's it's weird how that works what what do you think of uh RFK Jr honestly I

31:01

didn't look I I haven't even been following that much um I've been staying out of a lot of the um I feel like

31:07

there's so much that we're inundated with with current events so much I mean

31:13

the alien stuff now and this and that and they're just I feel like it's almost a ployed to just overwhelm us with so

31:20

much that you don't know what's real and fake anymore you you can't even tell up from down anymore yeah um and so I

31:27

really start to retreat because it gets overwhelming for me especially because my life has been so busy lately it

31:34

starts to overwhelm me and I used to all I used to almost just focus on that

31:40

stuff meaning I saw it as like my fight to be up toate on everything and fight

31:45

the good fight and you know put really make my opinions you know sharpen them

31:51

and and know how to tackle you know everything that I care about in the world kind of big big picture attack

31:57

right and what I learned was it was it was it became such a heavy weight on my

32:05

shoulders and I was so I was surrounded by so much negativity because I was just focused on the negative the things I

32:11

want to change in the world right so I was obsessively focused on the negative and that weight starts become

32:19

becoming just way too much too much of a weight for one man to hold and on top of

32:25

that I started realizing that I was fighting from a flimsy Foundation meaning I wasn't FOC I wasn't focused or

32:34

helping the things with an arms length anymore I wasn't putting enough attention into figuring out my life

32:40

getting my footing On Solid Ground what do I want for the future how do I achieve that I I also you can't just be

32:45

surrounded by negativity I need happiness I need love I need all of that to have solid footing uh whereas I saw

32:52

that as I can't waste my time with it I have big picture goals I have to fight fight fight fight and that was a mistake

33:00

that was a mistake because you have to look you're here for the war not the battle right you're here for the long

33:06

run it's a it's a a a marathon not a Sprint and so you have to set up a solid

33:13

foundation you have to have solid footing to fight upon yeah I think that's you know when people get involved

33:21

uh in politics or issues that are important uh I think there's like that's kind of the evolution is I know like

33:28

when I first uh got involved with Ron Paul's campaign um I mean I guess I saw him in 20072 2008 on the debate stage

33:36

and I couldn't believe what he was saying you know a lot of people forget how impactful that was when it

33:42

was huge Ron Paul is sitting on the debate stage and he takes on Rudy

33:48

Giuliani and you know at that time the Republican party was all about war war

33:53

war and they were uh you know yay on the Iraq War yay on the Afghanistan war

33:59

let's you know stay in these forever we didn't do anything wrong yeah and uh you

34:04

know Ron Paul got on that stage and schooled people I mean it's hard like if

34:11

people were watching that and they were intellectually honest uh there's no way you could think that he didn't win those

34:17

debates he crushed people yeah you know Rudy Giuliani um you know came back after Ron

34:25

Paul was talking about you know uh you know why we went into war in in

34:30

911 and and why that was probably a bad idea and um that we should actually

34:35

listen to the reasons they attack us and uh you know that was the first when he

34:41

said that I'm like oh yeah we like why do they why do they say they attack us well we have you know we have our troops

34:46

on the Arabian Peninsula um you know we've killed a bunch of them you know like where we've been bombing them for

34:52

years right um they want us out of there you know largely and uh and Giuliani

34:58

comes back and says you know as someone who survived 911 I've never heard that

35:04

we you know it's our fault and Ron Paul's like I'm not saying it's our fault I'm saying that we should listen

35:10

to why they attacked us because maybe we could learn something from it and he explained blowback and how you know

35:16

unintended consequences to you know the things that that we were doing um over

35:22

there and it becomes a Snowball Effect becomes a snowball effect with with no one REM ing the starting point anymore

35:29

meaning you kill them they kill us they kill them the once you go back and forth especially with how long this has been

35:34

going now it's almost like in a fight both sides are Justified meaning our troops go they killed my friends they

35:40

killed this they you know and so you're you're you're out for blood whereas their side same thing you killed my

35:46

family you killed my friends and they're out for blood and and honestly and that's the the screwed up you know

35:51

constant cycle of it at that point it's Justified on both sides if someone killed my family and bombed my Village

35:57

I'm picking up arms and I'm kicking ass right yeah and that's that's the messy side of it that that people need to

36:04

remember and that and that that thinking about it that way can also help bring upon peace in a way of you know coming

36:11

to the table and understanding each other's Grievances and actually having a real talk to figure out how to squish it

36:17

but we know none of them none of the people in charge want that so well it's you know it's the idea of how would you

36:22

feel if someone were doing the same thing to you that that question should be asked you know all the time like if

36:28

someone were doing the same thing to you how would you feel and uh sometimes you have to do things that that you know you

36:34

wouldn't like done to you either you know especially when it comes to uh war and those type of things but um you know

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36:42

that idea and then you know he questioned uh he put into question you

36:48

know everything that we were told and breaking it down yeah you know if you look at if you go back to 911 you know

36:55

we were told that they they uh they hated our freedom that's that's how far you know we've come back then most

37:02

people believe they just hated us for our freedom has nothing to do with that they don't give a [ __ ] you know they

37:08

don't want our democracy forced on them and uh you know and he really broke that

37:15

down and then you know it's interesting nowadays too because if you look at what we just went through with the pandemic

37:22

and coid and how quick people just go

37:28

along with that narrative but if you go back you know through history and you see how many times the government has

37:34

lied to us oh yeah uh on a lot of these issues I mean if you go back to the Iraq

37:41

War that's that's uh recent you know weapons of mass destruction there were no weapons of mass destruction why did

37:48

we attack Afghanistan I still don't know why we attacked Afghanistan they said that um bid Laden was in Afghanistan so

37:56

we're got to go got to go find him in Afghanistan well they ended up finding him in Pakistan and we spent 20 plus

38:02

years in a in a war over there that I still don't know I mean i' I've seen stories actually uh legitimate news

38:10

stories saying that we're guarding the uh the Opium Fields the popping I mean

38:16

I'm sure it's a multipronged attack with so many conspiracies behind it but yeah you have you quickly if if you

38:22

accurately study history you quickly learn that take everything with a grain of salt don't trust everything you hear

38:27

in fact don't trust anything you hear until you really think it through yourself and still understand that you still don't know the full picture of

38:33

what's going on sure absolutely there's so much there's so much to that story which is just such obvious BS and if you

38:39

logically assess it and you're right Ron Paul was was very good at opening up a lot of people's eyes to a different form

38:44

of politics because it became such cookie cutter just talk say the talking points everyone gobbles that up and he's

38:50

just kind of like am I in Crazy Land like think this through a little bit and then you're like wow you can think it

38:56

through um so you're absolutely right there and that whole thing like even just said like yeah we had to invade to to find

39:02

Bin Laden and this and that and even that when you logically break it down it's like okay let's say we had a gang

39:08

here like the Bloods that went and attacked you know whatever they attack Germany and then Germany goes oh we were

39:14

attacked by a gang uh let's go bomb all of America and find them it's like it

39:19

was a gang it was in America like we didn't I didn't do it we didn't do it why you um yeah so when you really start

39:25

thinking about it just logically like that it quickly crumbles on itself and raises a lot of questions yeah and do

39:32

you think that people are just like willfully ignorant at this point yeah I think that a big problem is

39:41

people are inundated with so much BS and I think that is a real Attack I brought it up a little bit earlier but I think

39:46

that is a real Attack when you're when your life becomes so complicated uh in the sense of right now we're just

39:52

struggling to survive the economy is a mess this and that we're okay now there's aliens okay now there there's all this now there's Trump and D okay

39:58

now there's Hunter Biden Le like suddenly it's like okay it's like they they reached a point where they're like

40:04

well we can't cover up all these wrongdoings and all these conspiracies and all whatever the hell we're we're

40:09

doing behind the scenes so let's just throw everything in the kitchen sink at them mhm then nothing you become so numb

40:16

to everything like literally like they're talking about aliens like aliens could land right now and be like hey

40:22

Brando can we come probe you be like not shocking like all right let's give it a go like nothing shocks me anymore and I

40:30

think and especially to the normal person who's just trying to deal with their the their problems with their wife

40:37

raise their kids well like oh I I have I can't pay the bills right now which is a big problem the econom is very different

40:43

than it was 10 20 50 years ago right now we're just struggling as a population to

The Distractions of The World, Media Manipulations, Alien Disclosure, Willful Ignorance

40:49

stay above poverty level things are getting bad money does not go as far I think all of that is by Design cuz all

40:56

of that is keeping you distracted and keeping to where I don't I can't even care enough you could tell me that the

41:03

government is trying to kill us all and they created all these problems and they're literally about to take us to a

41:09

concentration camp tomorrow you could tell us that but we're so exhausted and so inundated with with stuff that's

41:16

numbed us down that you just kind of go oh well okay like you you don't even have the energy to know where to to pick

41:23

up arms and fight anymore what are you fighting for anymore I think that is a real coordinated effort in attack yeah

41:30

so um in a way it's willful igns cuz we're like I can't handle it anymore so I'm willfully going to not yes you know

41:38

yeah uh willful ignorance you're numb to it and you're inundated with problems

41:43

within you know your arms length where you can just focus on that anymore yeah it's interesting because you know it

41:51

does seem like it's by Design we do have so much being being thrown at us at once

41:57

I mean you talk about aliens but that's a big deal right I mean if that were brought out 20 years ago it would it

42:04

would be the biggest story of all time exactly right now I don't think people

42:10

even know about the aliens for the most part I don't think the average person realizes that uh you know there was just

42:17

a an acknowledgment uh that they had uh

42:23

remains biological remains that were not from Earth yeah and it's a it's a it's an

Child Trafficking, The Sound of Freedom, Evil in the World

42:30

example of how kind of how far we've come and how polarized and you know um you know you look at for instance the

42:36

issue of of uh uh child trafficking one that you and I have been uh involved in

42:42

helping to stop uh I never thought that was going to be a political

42:47

issue never thought I mean I started uh Nick naton who uh uh directed the

42:54

operation Underground Railroad documentaries he did the one in Haiti and the one in Colombia that hasn't come

43:00

out yet but you know Nick showed that to me uh 2016 2017 and we're like Scott

43:07

drick and I were like whatever you need like we will do what we can yeah you know to support you financially within

43:13

our means Etc and uh you know now 2023

43:18

it's considered a a qanon conspiracy if you believe that it's going on um and it's become you know a right

43:27

left issue where politics shouldn't even be in the middle of it shouldn't be at all um and that is scary that is scary

43:34

that uh that it's being approached that way and maybe you know maybe by Design as well uh to try to take weight off of

43:42

it and to take um focus off of the truth of it and the truth of it is it's a

43:49

massive massive industry and issue in the world one of the biggest one of the

43:56

biggest and the fact that there's any sort of Ploy that can take weight off of

44:03

that and take people's minds off of it and just go oh that's silly you know conspiracy theory like oh how is that

44:09

succeeding how is that plan enacted uh it is scary it's terrifying and and

44:15

that's yeah that's that's why I think um being active in that space as a as someone part of a charity

44:22

in that space so important it's so important people to open people's eyes

44:27

to it because really at the end of the day if you talk to an individual it does not unless you're a real piece of crap

44:34

uh your politics do not matter when you really just break it down to what is more important to fight for than the

44:41

innocence in this world yeah there's there's not that is our future that is

44:46

yeah I mean you look at the sound of Freedom the movie that just came out and you you read the headlines from certain

44:52

you know big Washington Post you know big Publications and in a way they demonize it like how

44:59

dare you make a movie about this that's not really an issue right and you you

45:05

scratch your head because I don't think that all the people that are working at Washington Post are are bad people uh but I I think

45:13

that there's good people that believe that it's really not an issue and that

45:21

uh the movie somehow is is bad right that's like the uh the

45:26

narrative the the propaganda push on it to take your focus off of it and you

45:32

could criticize things in it that oh that's unrealistic this or that or whatever but at the end of the day it's

45:37

nice to have people's attention to the fact that it is an issue it does exist

45:44

whether a Hollywood movie you think it's you know Hollywood tizing it or whatever you know exaggerating things like the

45:51

truth is it exists there is darkness in this world there are horrible things

45:56

that go on and you know some people they and I've experienced this a lot some

46:02

people can't handle knowing the truth sure they want to stay in their bubble

46:09

and completely ignore it and let me tell you part of me understands it part of me

46:16

understands it because as someone that's part of this fight and is dedicated my life to similar fights and currently you

46:23

know in the in the thick of it with this it is hard it can be hard it can be a

46:29

heavy weight to be constantly seeing and reminded of the evil that can go on in

46:36

this world it can be consuming it can it can destroy you it can take away all your happiness and and that's something

46:44

that I've had to deal with myself because when you see it it is such an

46:51

important fight and as long as you're a good person or a fighter in any way you want to just pick up up and kickass you

46:57

want to but longterm like it is a heavy heavy weight on your shoulders and you

47:03

you need you need a balance you need yin and yang you need as much like at the

The Goodness of Humanity, Beauty, Protecting Love and Innocence

47:08

end of the day why why I do this or why I care and I feel like why most people care about these issues is we are good

47:13

deep down sure like I'm motivated by innocence and Beauty in this world I

47:20

love it and the older I get the softer I get towards it like I'll look at a silly dog video get tears in my eyes now like

47:27

I'm just a soft old man at this point but the stronger that love is on the

47:33

flip side the stronger the fire inside me that wants to destroy everything that

47:40

threatens what I love and wants to destroy that innocence and I think that's important but again it scares

47:46

some people and I think that's where it's important to still know you can't keep your head in

47:53

the sand anymore as long as this Evil's going going on in this world as long as there messed up people out there and

47:58

especially as things are getting so bad and constantly worse you do not have the luxury if you are a decent person you do

48:06

not have the luxury of keeping your head in the sand anymore yeah I if anything it will affect you it will affect your

48:11

family you are failing as a as a husband as a father as a person whatever whatever your situation is you are

48:18

failing if you're keeping your head in the sand yeah but that does not mean that you need to pick up a weapon and

48:24

fight does not mean that well you know and that's and for those listening that

Operation Lightshine, Human Trafficking Non-Profit, Child Exploitation

48:30

don't know so Brando is a board member for operation light shine uh operation

48:35

light shine is uh an organization that was founded by our friend Matt Murphy uh

48:40

he's no longer with uh them he's with the Sentinel Foundation yeah he moves foundations they do uh child Rescue all

48:48

over the world um but uh you know you started working with OP you were one of

48:53

the first board members correct yeah I was yeah I was uh I was there before before we officially started I help

48:59

start it yeah and so talk about a little bit you know what is Operation light shine uh how did you get involved and

49:05

and kind of where is it going yeah I'll give you that story because it is it is almost you know whatever your beliefs

49:11

are it's either extremely serendipitous or a godsent in some ways how everything's just so weirdly fallen into

49:18

place um but the the short of it is I I did work with charities in the past I had a a background in philosophy and I

49:25

would do Charities with surrounding kids in schools and teach self-esteem things like that and then I also helped out

49:31

with some anti-human trafficking child exploitation Charities just with events in the Hollywood world like not a big

49:36

deal but one thing I did notice is most most Charities I just didn't like them it didn't seem genuine a lot of people

49:42

working there didn't seem really motivated by the cause it was kind of the clout or the tax you know incentives

49:47

you know things like that I saw through that very fast and that put a bad taste in my mouth when it came to

49:53

Charities um and that's that said I'll I'll U go off on a side path here um how

50:01

it led up to operation lightshine um about 15 years ago I was working out at a gym and I became

50:07

friends with a guy I was working out with and I saw that he was sleeping in a

50:12

studio apartment uh at his friend studio apartment on a twoot space like between the bed and the wall it was ridiculous

50:18

cuz he just moved from East Coast from Jersey and so I was like oh dude that's that's silly like I was a kid I was like

50:24

19 at the time but I was like I have more I have a living room like get a blowup mattress or whatever and you know stay here so I let him stay with me and

50:32

we were very good friends and he ended up getting a job with Homeland Security and so he ended up moving back

50:39

he moved over to New York and we kept in touch throughout the years stayed buddies and um funny enough a funny side

50:47

story and it it is kind of serendipitous also in a way or a little foreshadowing maybe um I was in New York filming a

50:54

project and he invited me to the New York um Homeland Security Christmas party it was like a big party with the

51:00

big wigs from Homeland Security from DC and stuff and he's like oh you're supposed to be an agent at this party

51:06

though so if anyone asks say you work in child exploitation I didn't know what that was

51:11

like you know I'm a kid I was probably I don't know 23 20 I don't know and uh I was like he's he's like oh that's that's

51:18

that's like child porn you know things like that I was like oh okay so we're hanging out we're at the party and one

51:23

of the big wigs from Washington uh starts chatting with me he's like oh what department do you work in I was

51:30

like uh child porn and he's like oh how do you like it I love it and and my

51:37

friend's just like oh my God I just look like such an idiot uh but it was I mean

51:44

he quickly sussed out that I did not work there he was like what are you doing here go have fun like you know it was totally cool um and uh so I just

51:53

look like an idiot but it's a funny story now now and what's funny is a while later I was in LA like maybe a

51:59

year or two later I was in LA at a at a bar watching a a fight uh UFC fight on

52:05

the screen and I get a call and I you barely hear it but it's a message blah blah blah from Homeland Security give me

52:11

a call I was like oh no what did I do I rush outside I'm freaking out I call the number back and ends up it was that that

52:18

um guy from Homeland Security he was actually watching TV with his daughter

52:24

and and I was on a TV show show she was watching and he remembered me from the party he reached out and was like oh

52:29

could you send me a sign photo oh cool and what funny was I was just telling that story last week in Florida uh to

52:35

the um some of the guys in um ttf in uh Homeland Security and they knew they were like oh was it they said the name

52:41

was it blah blah 10 years ago from Washington was it and I called up my buddy I don't want to say names he was

52:46

an agent still in the force called him up I'm like who was it and he like said the name like it was that guy like it was funny how it's all come full circle

52:54

but anyway to to get to the point of how it came full circle all that happened and then with Matt when we started

53:00

talking about you know what happened with his sister who was lost to you know human trafficking and um and we wanted

53:08

to you know he wanted to start a charity and he asked if I wanted to be involved I was gung-ho about it so I'm like

53:14

here's you know here's what I saw that I didn't like in Charities and then there's anti-human trafficking it's all

53:19

overseas like what about our own backyard and like we got so gung-ho about it and um we started it and then I

53:26

talked to my my buddy so when I moved out here another serendipitous thing I called up my buddy in homeland security

53:33

New York this is way before the charity was even a seed of a thought and I was like oh man I'm I'm randomly escaping LA

53:40

and moving to Nashville he's like what he's like I just transferred from New York to

53:45

Nashville to Homeland Security like what really so we stayed buddy then we're buddies here randomly in the same town

53:53

and so when we started this charity I told him about about it he's like well let me set up a meeting for you with the

53:58

head of child exploitation we met with him again I don't want to say names but um he's like

54:05

the Godfather of this space anti-human trafficking child exploitation he like wrote The Playbook of how to fight it

54:12

he's very well respected in the space we met with him and he's like this is

54:17

something because we had to devise a plan that how do you tackle this issue

54:22

in the states most Charities don't touch it in the states and the reason why is there's so much red tape it's so

54:27

difficult to do anything here whereas overseas it's a little bit more like the wild west you can get more done mhm but

54:33

here like there's very little you can get done so we had to put together a plan to help do that and when we first

54:40

talked to him it was a spark of he was like this is kind of what I've been

54:45

thinking about wanting to do and so it worked perfectly to where we had that

54:51

support of Homeland Security and we were able to put together with the first charity that's been able to put together

54:58

a plan where okay how do you affect this space in the states well as a private organization there's certain things we

55:04

can do that government agencies can't do and then there's obviously a lot that government agencies can do that we can't

Tim Tebow Foundation, Navigating the Space, 3 Letter Agencies

55:11

do so it's a matter of devising a strategy to where we can play off of each other's weaknesses and lend support

55:18

where the other isn't allowed to do that and we put together this whole plan and that's what's now turned into the uh the

55:24

intercept task force which uh which we are doing with the government agencies

55:29

intercept stands for um inter agency child exploitation and uh persons

55:35

trafficked uh task force and so that's where that Synergy came from and then

55:41

that's also how the Timbo Foundation became involved because as we started getting legs they wanted to check us out

55:47

because they work in this space and they're kind of vetted us and kind of who are you guys and they had their guy

55:52

that's the expert in this space come to kind of vet us and talk about okay what are you doing and then quickly when we brought up the

55:58

name of who we're partnered with he was like oh he taught me everything I know

56:03

so they're like okay they're they're up to something um and so yeah I mean long

56:09

story short it's this this journey that you know that was my that's what I was able to add to it so far and I'm still

56:15

in the fight and still helping any way I can and um it's very beautiful and

56:21

rewarding and at times difficult and heavy uh but you know I was just out in

56:26

Florida last week shaking hands with some of the agents in the uh in the task force um at Homeland Security HSI and

56:34

they were just you I don't know these guys they don't know me I'm just shaking my hand and telling me like how more how

56:41

much more efficient they are like with this strategy and this task force he's like yeah I'm probably 3 400% more

56:47

effective now wow and they were showing me around showing me the you know there's certain things I'm not allowed

56:53

to see obviously but just the cases that are closed and people put behind bars

56:58

and the children saved it's really working it's really having an impact and

57:03

so to be part of that is special well what is the you know the intercept task force how does it work uh differently

57:10

than the I guess the the old model uh well what it's able to do is cut away some of the the fat and the inter

57:19

agency Dynamics or lack of a dynamic what I mean by that is I mean in some

57:25

ways I have to be careful I have to be careful what I say uh there's certain things I'm not allowed to talk about um

57:31

but I mean that said everything's by the book and that's the important thing of how we've been able to do this is it's a

57:36

very tough book to navigate the rule book uh but we've been able to do it correctly um but you know there's even

57:44

just differences within agencies where you have let's say it's even a little competitive because of the way the budgets work okay no we're doing this

57:52

okay now it's competing with no but we're doing this we want this you know extra budget or whatever it is M uh we

57:59

one one thing that we're doing is we we're bringing it all together so

58:04

instead of competing you're working together MH now you're working in tandem now you're having each other's back now

58:10

you're able to be a lot more efficient and effective now oh you you needed a week or two to get a search warrant now

58:17

it's now it's literally right next to you you go tap on the door and you get that search warrant in 30 minutes

58:23

interesting so 2 weeks to 30 minutes now you can act on it now you have the now in our facility you have the um um

58:30

evidence the evidence room and the the forensics lab and the you know all of it becomes a lot more uh

58:38

accessible and in a work environment where they're able to help each other more so it's almost like more teamwork

58:43

oriented it's kind of greasing the wheels a little bit more efficiently and uh they were underfunded undermanned

58:51

like this is a space that like there's so much money that's thrown into the the drug war so much money what is it like

58:58

200 billion and like there's 20 you know 200 million in the antium traffing don't quote me on that but it's some it's like

59:04

a ridiculous difference like that and so they get thousands and thousands and

59:10

thousands of leads that are legit leads that should be acted upon we're talking

59:15

child porn and you know kids you know trafficked and you know really heavy cases they were able to just barely

59:22

scratch the surface and so now with greasing the wheel a little bit making it more efficient and bringing in extra

59:29

funding um we are now able to up the Manpower bring in more equipment and uh

59:36

new technology and uh have it all work better and together that's awesome um

59:45

yeah I mean it's it's been pretty incredible watching the growth of operation light shine and uh I was a

59:52

board member for for a short time uh uh actually Matt came over here uh to pitch

59:58

me the idea you know a couple I remember it was uh I think jelly roll my buddy

1:00:04

jelly roll was doing a music video and Matt came over uh with uh uh Dustin

1:00:10

black and they like here's the idea I'm like sounds like a pretty good idea uh

1:00:16

you know I didn't know Matt very well at the time but little did I know you know they were going to build this organization yall were going to build

1:00:22

this organization that uh you just does incredible work and has helped uh a lot

1:00:29

of kids which is the most important part um yes and that's where I urge people to

1:00:35

look into it a little bit I know it's a dark dark space it's very heavy and you

1:00:42

know in a way in my life I've seen a lot of dark things and I've dealt with a lot

1:00:47

of heavy things and is a burden and you know I've taken it upon myself to lean into it mhm as like like kind of the

1:00:55

warrior mentality of okay I need to know the enemy I've leaned into it way more than most people should and that's been

1:01:02

a burden for me and it's been very difficult for me to navigate those Waters to still not get consumed by the

1:01:10

darkness and still you know and that's been a recent kind of um path of mine

1:01:16

that I'm trying to carve out is focus more on the the light and the Beautiful side of life and you know just don't get

1:01:22

consumed by it cuz I was so consumed byes I want to run in and fight it you want to fight it but you only have so

1:01:28

much strength when it comes to that and so that's been my personal battle but what I urge people is even if you're not

1:01:35

trying to be in the front lines in any way just know that the issue is there look into it understand that that evil

1:01:42

is there and that is a motivating factor to at least support in some way let me

1:01:48

tell you like the a lot of the agents working in this stuff like they are

1:01:54

seeing things that you know I've seen dark stuff and they're having to be see it and be consumed by it daily yeah and

1:02:02

it's it's a big it's a quick turnaround a lot of these agents get burnt out oh yeah and they're gone if you had to see

1:02:08

that i' I've never uh had to see those images thank God it's but I can only imagine what they go through it is

1:02:16

terrible yeah and the reason why I say that like I even you know sometimes I even say examples to just make it a

1:02:23

sobering moment for for people uh some of the things I've seen that just you

1:02:28

know still haunt me to this day and I wouldn't want I don't want

1:02:33

others to see that but I want people to know it's real and exists as to know the the gravity of the

1:02:42

situation to have that at least somewhat lean on them for them to want to do something about it and to lend a hand

1:02:49

and that support is so important like these agents they're human these are

1:02:54

just these people in this fight they are people and to have that weight on their shoulders and to see that stuff every

1:03:00

day it is crushing yeah and so they want to know that there's support behind them

1:03:06

they want to know that people care they want to know that people appreciate them and that there's an army behind them of

1:03:13

support that is a a very important motivating factor yeah that anyone in

1:03:18

this fight or any important fight needs and that's that's where I go don't put your head in the sand

1:03:24

you don't need to see you don't be need to be on the front lines you don't need to see what we've seen but just understand it enough to be

1:03:33

a helping hand to be just a hand on the back of hey I got you I support you I appreciate you I think that's Vally

1:03:40

important for these agents well and you know what what what people don't realize

1:03:45

it is it is uh human trafficking child trafficking it's modern day slavery yeah

1:03:52

I was looking at some government numbers if I'm uh correct me if I'm wrong I think it's $150 billion dollar a year industry

1:03:59

right now I don't know the number off the top of my head but it is if not more than that you know that we know right

1:04:05

it's massive I mean it's it's just yeah it's huge people don't realize how big it is and uh you know so seeing

1:04:12

now the mainstream media narrative that is suggesting that it's not real that's

1:04:19

suggesting that it's a q andon conspiracy and that those that are

1:04:26

fighting against it are like how think about how twisted uh Society has to be to put down

1:04:34

a movie like sound of Freedom that's really showing uh the how heroic Tim

1:04:41

Ballard is you know to quit his job in the government to go overseas set up an

1:04:47

undercover sting to rescue I think they rescued like 150 children that happened

1:04:53

yeah and somehow making that bad yeah it's a propaganda spin um but I

1:05:00

think even if you don't like what things about him even or the movie let's say

1:05:05

you think it's Hollywood at ties they dramatized and exaggerated in this and

1:05:11

that it's still why would you be against putting some attention on the issue and

1:05:18

I and I know firsthand it has greatly a a bunch of Charities it has greatly increased donations and um so it's it's

1:05:26

greatly increased people's awareness and uh effort and attention on the issue so

1:05:33

in that sense even if even if there's a bunch of exaggerated points and you know whatever your criticism

1:05:39

is it's it's been a good cause Ian it's it's done a good thing well I've actually heard that the movie is pretty

1:05:46

darn accurate you know they they can say what they want but like you know for instance I saw I've watched the

1:05:52

documentary of uh what the movie was about in Colombia I watched the

1:05:57

documentary um it's not out in public yet but I mean that's that's all real

1:06:03

and yeah people can say what they want about Tim balard some people might not like him but you know he is a hero yeah

1:06:11

you might not like how the hero went about doing what he did and I I have no problem with it personally but some

1:06:18

people might but he's still a hero he's still in it for the right reasons saving

1:06:24

you know to save children and nobody has put a greater Spotlight on the issue

1:06:30

than him so whatever he's done has brought us to this point to where now the world can see it they can turn away

1:06:37

if they want but I I don't see how that's can be seen as a bad thing

1:06:43

because it's all happening in many ways because of him right it's like like the the the light that's being shined on it

1:06:50

is happening because of him whether you like it or not right right and I mean I

1:06:56

can tell you firsthand it is real yeah it is real like it is a very dark dark

1:07:03

place space and there are children and women and boys and men and affected by

1:07:09

it every day in the millions millions millions yeah um so it is a real issue

1:07:15

and there I mean that's just a fact that's just a fact yeah there's a lot of good organizations too like operation

The Sentinel Foundation, Mainstream Media Propaganda

1:07:21

light shine uh like the Sentinel Foundation that was that's where Matt is

1:07:26

now uh it was founded uh by by uh Glen devit um he was a Delta Force guy um

1:07:33

badass dude great guy yeah and and that's where I think yeah it's I'm I'm

1:07:38

happy for Matt in that sense like it was you know more in line like I I couldn't I told Matt I was like you know there's

1:07:44

nothing I could do for Sentinel Foundation like that's not you know you guys are all in the thick of it it's

1:07:51

more Hands-On and fantastic like I feel like that's a really good space for him

1:07:56

whereas um OS like I'm still I don't have a military background I don't have a law enforcement background but I'm

1:08:02

still able to do my part and and uh make a difference and so that's that's a

1:08:08

vehicle that I'm I'm able to do something in sure no that's good um yeah

1:08:13

I it's it's and there's a lot of other organizations too that are are doing great work and that you know people can

1:08:19

can support um it does seem that there's now a lot lot of attention on it is

1:08:25

really interesting when people say oh it's not real it's not a thing it's like it's I do wonder if the news outlets

1:08:34

that are pumping out that propaganda like they've got to be the enemy

1:08:41

right that gets into bigger conspiracies

1:08:46

um there's a lot of darkness in this world and it's not crazy to think from

1:08:53

high place from the top down there's involvement at least on some level that

1:08:58

is not crazy yeah so um you know I I hope that people can kind of wake up to

1:09:06

wake up to that because it's kind of chilling right now throughout Society

1:09:11

what we're seeing you know this is a great example with the child trafficking I never thought we like one of the

1:09:18

things that Scott and dck and and and I used to say early on Robin Williams another a friend that was helping fund

1:09:25

one of the documentaries is like there's no way this can ever be wrong you know you know fighting fighting against this

1:09:32

can't be seen as wrong you know we'll always stand up to it and you know it's like one of those things that we were so

1:09:38

all in and we're still all in but we were wrong in the sense that we never thought that it could be controversial

1:09:45

controversial it's like what is going on here we live in upside down world now everything is controversial so that's

1:09:52

unavoidable uh um but I think that's where it's important to get the the support of the people right the masses

1:09:58

where yeah you can have propaganda spinning everything is controversial you can't say anything you can't do anything

1:10:03

nowadays but I think if you're if you have good intentions and you're you're leading

1:10:10

with your heart and you really try to communicate and express to people like that you are fighting for the light that

1:10:18

you love like you're the right direction you know that may sound subjective but

1:10:23

if you if that's how you approach it the masses of people will see that you're

1:10:29

coming from a good place and support you the problem is not everyone gets to see that not everyone gets to speak their

1:10:35

mind not everyone gets to give their side of the story yeah and uh and then they just rely on the the propaganda

1:10:42

talking points of of the media and those heads those Talking Heads and that is um

1:10:47

that is dangerous yeah but you have propaganda that's out there fighting

1:10:54

against exposing child trafficking you the mainstream news

1:11:00

narrative in our country right now is that somehow it's a qinon conspiracy

1:11:06

yeah it's not so you probably have 40 to 50% of the country you know that are now

1:11:13

politically divided over it saying oh you guys are just crazy yeah over here I'm I'm NE neither Republican or

1:11:20

Democrat I'm not I don't I don't even I don't even really know where I fall like it's this what what the issues are I try

1:11:26

to find the right thing but I never thought this would be you know a

1:11:32

political issue I never thought that the mainstream media was so evil

1:11:41

that they would twist it because they have to be complicit it's a red flag

1:11:47

it's a red flag yeah 100% yeah I mean it's just it's been difficult the last

1:11:52

you know month for me kind of working through this because of to me what it

1:11:59

really means about Society uh you know the the the

1:12:05

well not Society necessarily like the our our government and those in power

1:12:11

that's a better way to put it those that are in power yeah we don't even know who they are yeah we don't know who's in power but somehow they're they're

1:12:18

allowing this narrative to go on and

1:12:24

it can't be good it's got to be evil and so does that mean that we just have evil

1:12:29

controlling all of the narrative um you

1:12:34

do have very nefarious individuals and most of you know I can

1:12:42

only speak from my limited knowledge right but I'm good at putting two plus two together as well and I agree you tie

1:12:48

a lot as you go up the the food chain up the ladder there's a lot tied to it that is irrefutable in its function when you

1:12:56

assess it and you also start seeing it's almost like working in

1:13:01

Hollywood Hollywood is put together very similarly to the government or the

1:13:07

governments of the world um you start seeing

1:13:12

gatekeeping meaning there is a certain agenda and there is certain long-term

1:13:18

goals that have probably been around before we were born they will continue

1:13:24

pass when we're dead there are long-term goals and they make sure to gatekeep to have the right

1:13:32

people in place to further and help along these goals and if you are a threat to it you are not allowed in that

1:13:39

position they will find ways for that um and so that absolutely happens so people

1:13:44

go oh how could everyone in the government be evil that's well first all not everyone but it also goes a lot higher than we probably

1:13:50

realize but that said the there absolutely is vetting and gatekeeping

1:13:56

that goes on so certain individuals can make it up there that

1:14:02

have shortcomings problems maybe they have big skeletons

1:14:09

in the closet that they're hiding all of that are control mechanisms they ways

1:14:14

for them to be controlled so they know that they will push well really whatever the hell they're told to

1:14:20

push um and that's where that's what gatekeeping is used for and that absolutely happens it may not be

1:14:25

everyone may not happen always but does it happen yes yeah yes well yeah and

1:14:33

and you know seeing what the response is to the people uh you know just believing what

1:14:41

they're being told and then you know it is very tribal I see it with the both the Republicans and Democrats I see you

1:14:47

know the Republicans get on one kick and then you know it's the enemy is the Democrat and then the Democrat it's like

Divide and Conquer, The Polarization of Society

1:14:53

oh it's the crazy Republicans and it becomes as [ __ ] you know divide and conquer yeah exactly yeah yeah um I mean

1:15:02

that yeah that's one of the you know thousands of tools that are used that are mental attacks on on the on the

1:15:08

public to let these plans and let these bigger picture goals of theirs play out

1:15:14

and so to where we don't you know again we're inundated with so much back when

1:15:19

it was simple things were more black and white it's a lot easier to just see up from down right from wrong and come together in a humanly sense and

1:15:25

go screw you we don't like this and you fight back uh we are now so spread apart and so inundated with so much BS and and

1:15:33

just barely staying afloat that how do we band together and fight for anything

1:15:38

yeah well it's like you know the dots are practically touching you know it's like it's it's

1:15:44

not hard to connect anymore um but uh yeah this month has been an interesting

1:15:49

one the last just because of all the work that you know we've done uh fighting child trafficking over the

1:15:57

over the years not like uh you know the guys on the ground but financially and

1:16:03

just talking about it and uh publicly and those type of things and uh to see

1:16:08

supporting yeah to see somebody like um a movie like that happen and obviously

1:16:16

it's done very well at the box office which is great but to see the negative aspect of it and you know it's

1:16:25

just uh it's a little sad because it's a it's a it's a real issue that it's scary

1:16:31

and yeah I mean that's the world we live in now right very scary times yeah it's

Politics, Ayn Rand, Philosophy

1:16:37

wild um let's go into your background in uh

1:16:44

politics a little bit with uh Gary Johnson yeah what was your what was your POS are you still a Libertarian or what

1:16:51

would you consider yourself I would call myself a libertarian but I I'm kind of like you I'm more of a I stopped aligning with any set party I'm more of

1:16:58

a issue by isue basis and just try to focus on myself and build my own always

1:17:03

sharpening the tools of my own personal philosophy and uh how it works right from wrong blah blah blah from the

1:17:09

foundation up and then to tackle each uh issue like that um but yeah I I did have

1:17:14

a background in uh philosophy to start and I was very into in Rand I was kind

1:17:21

of an expert on inand on objectivism objectivism in that space we're talking

1:17:27

Atlas shrugg Fountain Head um read all her stuff and so by I was probably I

1:17:33

don't know 14 when I was really diving into that and I got really into it to

1:17:38

the point where just through happen stance I started meeting some people in that space and then they were kind of

1:17:44

you know older people that it ended up being you know in a space with friends of hers like colleagues of hers partners

1:17:52

of hers lovers of hers I started really finding myself in this Inner Circle the

1:17:57

irand Inner Circle and we're talking like Nathaniel Brandon Barbara Brandon John Hospers who started the libertarian

1:18:04

party he was part of starting it one of her students um and uh they they really

1:18:10

liked me because I was such an expert on her in that space at the time and um I I

1:18:18

don't know they enjoyed being around they're very old at the time 80s 90s we're talking very old I was Teen ma

1:18:24

probably um and we got along really well and we started I started wanting to do

1:18:29

things with them so that's what helped start like the charity when I was teaching uh kids about self-esteem like

1:18:35

just kind of more basic philosophy based ways to help uh uh kids at the time it

1:18:41

was you know I guess I've been in that space helping kids for a while and um they helped me with that and then um

1:18:49

John hosper started libertarianism and so we would have a lot lot of talks about that and they're all they're all

1:18:55

deceased now you know they all passed away and I feel like in a way they passed a torch to me that I wanted to

1:19:03

carry forward and and I have and not NE I don't wouldn't call myself an objectivist like what is an objectivist

1:19:10

uh it's it's einan's philosophy uh based on objective reality it's very a is a

1:19:16

basis it's very logic based philosophy which I I can't refute that I am all for

1:19:22

that that um but that said that you know some parts can become a little subjective just in the differences what

1:19:28

is there is gray yeah where or or what is gray or maybe it's not gray maybe you think it's gray and it's black and white

1:19:34

but he thinks it's white and black that's where we get into a deeper philosophical discussion of just what

1:19:40

our core beliefs are and what we think and there could be some differences in what she thought was right in objectivism I think oh maybe this maybe

1:19:48

this is a and you think that's a anyway very minute details um I don't I'm not

1:19:53

going to get into that but um but it did form a lot of the foundation of me

1:19:59

caring about philosophy caring about I would study religions and how humans work and uh politics very important

1:20:06

because the the part of philosophy that is literally impacting us every day whether you want to ignore it or not um

1:20:14

and I became obsessed with it and it honestly helped my acting as well just understanding people uh diving into the

1:20:20

psychology of people and for my characters and and and all that and so it was a great tool um but it did it did

Speech Writing for Gary Johnson, The Libertarian Party

1:20:29

really get me into a lot of these doors and spaces and that later turned into them asking me to uh do uh Speech

1:20:35

writing and speeches for the libertarian party um for the uh Gary Johnson 2016

1:20:41

presidential race and so I was on the campaign Trail there I would do speeches and stuff open up for him introduce him

1:20:47

to stage and uh it was very fun it was uh what was that like you know I like

1:20:52

Gary uh I think and you you'll probably remember this better than better than my

1:20:58

recollection as we're just talking but I remember the point where I knew he lost

1:21:03

it was an interview on TV where he said something about bombing he kind of like

1:21:09

he went along with something that was a really bad idea uh foreign policy and that did not stick to the principles do

1:21:15

you know what I'm talking about uh were you talking about the Aleppo situation tell me about that one well that was one

1:21:21

where he just didn't know he wasn't recollecting what Aleppo was um and it's

1:21:26

it sounds like a minute thing most of us would have no idea but it was an ISS it was a it was a uh current event issue at

1:21:33

the time and it made him they spun it to make him look really dumb and it was a slip up on his on his part it was but to

1:21:39

be fair I mean it's tough like you are Imagine interviews all day constantly

1:21:47

fed all this information you got to know this got to know this got to know this well the person and interviewing you oh

1:21:54

they may be throwing softballs to who they like there may be it may be a very

1:22:00

um you know pampered and you know put on the mittens interview with certain candidates whereas others they're trying

1:22:07

to make you look like an idiot right and so in that sense it's you're constantly

1:22:12

being attacked and it's tough and he did slip up he genuinely slipped up but man what happened with that like was a leppo

1:22:19

does that he just didn't know what it was he didn't he didn't remember what was going on they caught him and he just he kind of lied well he didn't lie but

1:22:25

he just kind of pretended like he knew what was going on and they clearly didn't I see and so it made him look dumb that's what I remember something

1:22:31

like that I thought I had some type of bombing I don't know what Aleppo is yeah I I don't even know yeah I mean I

1:22:37

remembered it I knew at the time but I knew more details about at the time but I couldn't tell you anything though yeah I mean it was but there was a time where

1:22:43

I I saw him on TV I like Gary Johnson I met him a couple times actually a very sweet nice guy you know if if I was

1:22:51

going to be more nitpicking i' want a stronger you know more Cutthroat Le leader MH of a country um not saying I

1:22:59

wouldn't have voted for him like you know in it's all you know comparison right and in context but he's actually a

1:23:04

very good guy coming from uh you know he he cared he cared and and that's what was nice about working he was governor

1:23:11

too of uh what New Mex before um that was nice with working with that party

1:23:17

because I've I've done a lot of things all over the place actually all you know democratic space Republican space like

1:23:24

just more of a Hired Gun of just finding myself in interesting doors and situations with my jobs and um one thing

1:23:31

that was nice about being in such a off of the duopoly side of it meaning you

1:23:37

have Democrats Republicans too big uh but then you're working with Libertarians where it's just a smaller

1:23:42

space so you meet a lot of people that are more genuine and it's not as you

1:23:48

know cookie cutter buy the book this is how it goes like there was a human element to it there's more of a human

1:23:54

element to it which I appreciate well libertarian party too you think about it I mean at least the average

1:24:02

libertarian knows about the issues or knows more than the average Republican

1:24:07

or the average Democrat I would say that yeah they put more time into yeah because it's since it's off party it's

1:24:13

something that you had to put more time and thought into being becoming part of I mean if you see like you know some of

1:24:19

these these parties that I'll go to iCal parties and I won't I won't say what

1:24:25

side but you know I find walking around talking to the people very nice people

1:24:33

but they're being open about their politics more at a political uh party than uh just a

1:24:40

regular just a regular party sure uh and

1:24:45

you kind of realize how fanatical people are on both sides there's not a lot of

1:24:51

logic uh that comes into it the Libertarians are a lot more logical to me in in many

1:24:59

ways when I'm when I'm around and they can talk about the issues and the history behind that what do you think

1:25:05

about that some of them I mean I can't speak for everyone especially because I especially can't speak for the libertarian party because it's so I mean

1:25:12

that's one if I were to criticize anything it's the fact that there's so many different people part of it so many

1:25:18

different beliefs meaning it's not a concise uh belief system it's more like

1:25:24

okay we're Liberty oriented but I mean what does that mean okay yeah I can be a

1:25:30

Christian libertarian an atheist libertarian a Satanist libertarian a like so like you have very very

1:25:37

different people under that flag it's like gender yeah I don't know about that um

1:25:44

it's fluid is what I'm saying yeah know I get the joke yeah I don't know about that but um but yeah so that's what

1:25:51

makes it a lot harder to speak for it and I would say that's in a lot of ways it's downfall because it doesn't have a

1:25:58

strong enough uh cohesive and concise direction to aim towards it's more of an

1:26:04

all-encompassing like yeah we're Liberty oriented and now the differences between the members in the groups and then those

1:26:10

groups start Waring no we want this and then no we want this and then suddenly that takes all the attention and all the

1:26:17

drama and they're they're they're left in the dust in the race and everyone else is you running forward and they're

1:26:23

just fighting amongst themselves interesting so and fighting within the party yeah there's a lot of that yeah see I don't I don't know anything about

1:26:29

that I guess what I was talking about when I just talk to Libertarians in general uh I feel like most of them know

1:26:36

about the issues uh better I guess when I'm at a you know if I'm at a party uh

1:26:43

with either Republicans Or democrats depending on what it is there'll be some intense conversations that can happen at

1:26:49

these parties it's like oh wow you know they're they're harboring and most of

1:26:55

the time they're not very well thought out sure you know um yeah and that's what you're going to get with I mean you

1:27:00

know we have a two-party system where the majority of the country is one or the other yeah and more majority of

1:27:06

people don't know what they're talking about or don't put the time into knowing it and so they're all going to have some reg regurgitated talking point to to

Accepting What We Don’t Know, Fanaticism, Left vs Right

1:27:13

lean on and they have the confidence of saying it because there's so many people behind them that say the same thing I

1:27:19

mean I kind of Wonder like what would it take for people to just admit or acknowledge that they

1:27:27

don't know you you think about there's a lot of these issues that we're talking about and there you know we can only go

1:27:33

so far and like we don't know there could be a lot of other things that that are at play um I think maybe what

1:27:41

holds people back right now in America uh one of the things that holds people back in America is standing in their

1:27:49

righteousness of oh no this is the only way mhm yeah I agree with that I agree with

1:27:55

that I think it's very important to stay I call it active minded so there's open-minded there's

1:28:01

closed-minded and then there's active minded um that's where it's I mean it's a constantly evolving Battlefield here

1:28:08

and there's constantly new information and there's so much none of us know none of us know some will know more than

1:28:14

others and that's where I take it upon myself to put so much time into studying

1:28:19

this stuff and you know because I care about it and it's lot of what I do uh but at the end of the day there's so

1:28:24

much we don't know so you have to stay active minded you might get you might be very cemented there might be things and

1:28:29

i' I've been there in life I really believe in something this is the way it is and then I'm thrown new information

1:28:37

to equate against all my other information and that information proves to be correct yeah and so you have to be

1:28:43

the bigger person enough to be able to take that in uh put that into the equation now into the new information in

1:28:50

your mind let it settle and and utilize it and that admits you know sometimes

1:28:55

admits defeat but it's not defeat you know yeah okay you made a mistake but that's how we learn that's how we grow

1:29:01

and if you just stay cemented in one way and you ignore truthful information that

1:29:06

logically if you sit down you could assess that it's right but you shut it shut it out so you feel like it's just a

1:29:13

weakness or admitting you're wrong that's not that's not how you grow no that's true you think about like where

1:29:19

politics where we're at these days you know have this is very polarized right

1:29:24

left mhm um you know the people on the right let's to say well the the the

1:29:31

Trump supporters was called that and said the people on the right um Trump can almost do no wrong you know

1:29:39

Democrats just in general hate Trump just to hate Trump and so a lot of their accusations

1:29:47

are bogus you know think about what happened during the last uh the years

1:29:52

that President Trump was was a president I mean the investigations were bogus all of them turned out to be bogus yeah and

1:29:59

so there's definitely a bias there oh yeah a huge bias obviously and you know you have the situation

1:30:06

where Trump can do no wrong to this one group and then the other side is just

1:30:13

throwing out you know a lot of BS some of the stuff is legit but most of it's BS that's a dangerous place to be as a

1:30:20

country where the guy can do no wrong and then accusations uh are being told as truce

1:30:28

misinformation being spread on the on the other side about Trump uh where do you go where do we go

1:30:35

from there that's a good question and I don't have that answer but I I guess one of

1:30:42

one of two directions you either keep you either find a way to bridge that Gap

1:30:48

and bring people at least enough people back to an agreeable

1:30:55

place and that's where you need a sort of almost a philosophy behind the function of a nation that can be at its

1:31:02

core a basic foundational philosophy that we agree upon and that's what the founding fathers tried were you saying

The Founding Fathers, Aiming for an Agreeable Foundation, The Future of America

1:31:08

shared values basically yeah okay that's what the founding fathers tried to find to have a agreeable

1:31:15

Foundation uh with the you know Bill of Rights and Constitution and um so we

1:31:21

either find find a way to bring people back together utilizing those Common Core uh kind of philosophical beliefs if

1:31:28

that's possible or you keep spreading apart and if you keep spreading apart um

1:31:37

there's there's only chaos in the future there will be a fight or a separation

1:31:43

you know splitting the United States yeah uh into either side you know here's the right side here's the left side or

1:31:50

fighting or complete collapse I don't know what the answer is but one of those

1:31:56

is inevitable if you keep going yeah how close do you think that we are probably

1:32:03

pretty close yeah I mean that's that's uh relevant uh I would

1:32:11

say I mean that's just a guess really but it seems like things are exponentially picking up momentum in

1:32:18

whatever Direction it's going so if I were to guess a number but

1:32:23

who cares about my thoughts on that but five years 10 tops yeah and you know so

1:32:29

so there's something drastic happening yeah something drastic happening yeah I would agree and then but I would also

1:32:35

bring up that we went through a lot we've been through a lot as a country multiple times you think about

1:32:41

everything that we went through in the 60s I mean you had JFK assassinated Martin Luther King Jr assassinated RFK

1:32:47

assassinated Vietnam War we made it through that somehow and my understanding was it was very divisive

1:32:54

you those are very divisive times then so why like is this worse than

1:33:02

then or different I would say so you say so the reason why is because you don't

1:33:08

you have a much less aside from the turmoil of world global you know

1:33:16

political things going on uh I'm not comparing that you know what's worse now

1:33:21

that war this war that well I'm not comparing that but what I am thinking about is the people we have a less

1:33:28

cohesive Society uh we are more divided than ever

1:33:33

and that's not even it's it's not even a left right it's just plain like people are all over the place they're not even

1:33:39

focused on this or they hate that or like we are all over the place we we have no cohesion mhm anymore and and

1:33:48

that breeds chaos uh within a nation you can't have a nation if you don't have people that

1:33:57

fly under that banner and are okay with you know having some sort of connection to it and some sort of cohesion and and

1:34:05

common beliefs and common ideas if you lack all of that and you're just like

1:34:10

just a bunch of wild cats you know you can't hurt and just wandering going going around um you you can't have a

1:34:16

nation that way and so with all this turmoil with collapse on the impending

1:34:22

doom and we could have economic collapse or political issue whatever it is

1:34:27

um we are just kind of scattered individuals yeah at this point and how

1:34:34

do you save how do you band together and save anything that needs saving if

1:34:40

there's no way to band together yeah I mean those are those are questions that we've

1:34:45

gotta we've got to really figure out and talk through I mean as a society I don't think that most people even realize kind

1:34:51

of where we could be at um you know I think the other side that I've heard is oh we've been you know we went through a

1:34:57

lot more and we're able to hang in there uh like in the 60s but I think yeah but

1:35:03

what is that hang in there that's a raw raw yeah hang it will not break apart no

1:35:08

no no no I I know I'm not I'm not speaking against you right now what I'm saying is all that is a camaraderie

1:35:14

building we have something to band together and fight for uh mentality it's a it's a uh pep

1:35:22

pep talk to band go your brother and you know we we can get through this and

1:35:28

that's what I'm saying when you lack cohesion you don't that falls on deaf ears that starts to fall on deaf ears

1:35:34

and um yeah again um we're scattered individuals and you have the Puppet

1:35:40

Masters that now have complete control because who's going to stop them well and you know I guess the other idea

1:35:46

would be if the propagandists want us to come back together

1:35:52

then that's uh another uh about the aliens yeah no I'm saying that if if

1:36:00

whoever they are if they wanted our country to uh not fight so much the the

1:36:06

the the media um narrative would change because right now it's very divisive it's your

1:36:12

you're either you know left right people are pretty dumb with it but um you know

1:36:17

I'm just giv another you know potential but I I I I mean I agree with your like

1:36:24

your assessment from the sense that I don't know how we would get out of

1:36:30

this uh I have hope I don't know what I have hope in you know like it's something that it's like a hope of you

1:36:38

know we we can do something we can survive as a country but uh you know I

1:36:45

think so there's so many people the willful ignorance that we were talking about earlier is is kind of creepy creeping up absolutely true um I would

1:36:53

say one thing that we can do and this is what every individual can do because I

Closing Remarks

1:36:59

think this is something that can align us and what that is and I had to learn this myself I was so focused on the big

1:37:06

picture crazy things the world's collapsing all that and I may not be wrong uh there are a lot of scary

1:37:14

things but focus on what you have at arms length build your foundation

1:37:22

focus on your family your loved ones find love build a family if you don't

1:37:27

have one you know work hard to improve yourself to help your loved ones all

1:37:33

that are things that everyone can agree upon get motivated by feel proud of and

1:37:40

doing that also gives you something in common with the other fellow good man

1:37:46

who's on that path and that path just Falls in line with human nature all of us can can have that path and that gives

1:37:54

us something to band together for and fight for together yeah I like it I like it um

1:38:03

well man thanks for uh coming on the podcast we've been going I could actually go a lot longer but uh we have

1:38:09

to somewhat cut it short uh because we got another podcast coming up um but uh

1:38:16

let's um let's do it again and we'll uh we'll we'll chat more about a lot of these issues and go as as deep as we

1:38:24

possibly can maybe with no no time of it next time yeah and uh try to figure some stuff out absolutely how long has it

1:38:30

been oh we've been an hour and a half oh wow yeah that flew by it's a awesome yeah but yeah well thank you thank you

1:38:36

so much um really appreciate you having me on and it's always nice chatting with you on camera and off camera yeah

1:38:42

exactly we we have these conversations all the time this isn't the first time we've we've had a lot of this but I mean

1:38:48

it's it's good to you know to dive deep um with people that uh you know want to

1:38:55

dive deep and think about these things too and that are actually concerned with how uh how things might turn out and

1:39:02

what we can do to make a positive difference these conversations are vitally important absolutely all right

1:39:08

Brando eaten thank you brother thank you thank