ECS EP38 - Alex Rosen Transcript

00:00:00 when I hear Harry tell me that he molested a one-year-old I want to do things that if I say it will get you banned on YouTube I have a group called Predator poachers where we catch online child Predators we have arrest in 46 different states convictions in 40 I made a fake account of a 15-year-old boy 30 minutes later somebody wants to go meet that 15-year-old for sex from there it's just was endless Jeffrey Rose and he was probably one of the sickest people we've caught he admits to us that he has 50,000 images of child porn he's


00:00:23 like I have it all saved for the FBI what's the most dangerous situation that you've been in most recently um we got a guy arrested he threatened me with an AR-15 we caught a guy Donald lecher in South Dakota he ended up blowing his brains out which is why we don't have South Dakota arrest we'd have 47 if he just hung in there for a little bit longer people say oh the justice system sucks it definitely does these people need to be in jail for the rest of their lives the da give way too many slaps on


00:00:46 the wrist it's not about what's perfect in this world it's about what's optimal and what's optimal sending them to jail giving them registry in some case we do have life sentences it's not like it's always bad evil truly has no limits and Evil's real don't live your life in fear most people are still good people Alex Rosen welcome to the podcast how's it going thanks for having me on man thank you man I'm I'm excited because I'm I'm a fan of of your work been following you for a while and uh yeah


00:01:11 just love what you do man thank you so much yeah so uh yeah you said you're 24 years old uh how did you get started uh you know doing something like this and then you know it making such a big impact where a lot of people you know follow your work and and those type of things well um what we do is I have a group called Predator poachers where we catch online child Predators across the country um we have arrests in 46 different states convictions in 40 and the main way we do that is by posing as


00:01:36 a minor online and predators across the country message us in a sexual way or allude to that they're committing crimes and we approach them on camera and we hope to get a confession out of them on camera we turn that over to law enforcement and you know like I said that's yielded arrests in 46 States convictions in 40 and uh we started doing this when I was 19 years old um 5 years ago I was playing college football at Texas Southern and by playing I mean I was on the roster I did not see the field at all but um yeah I just we had


00:02:06 three weeks off going in the summer and I just started watching these types of videos online like I've seen the Chris Hansen stuff in high school and all that but it did you know I was always thought well that's interesting but it never really stuck with me but but you know now it's like I wanted to be a cop and I had to wait two years because you got to be 21 to graduate the academy in Houston so um I just kind of jumped into doing this cuz it wasn't just Chris Hansen I saw at that point it was like random


00:02:29 people doing it just kind of wearing a shorts and t-shirt like I am just regular dudes and I'm like wow is it this common so I made a fake account of a 15-year-old boy 30 minutes later somebody wants to go meet that 15-year-old for sex and then from there it's just was endless like it just never stopped and you know slowly but surely we started traveling the country and racking up arrests and now here we are so your first one the first uh you know you POS as a 15-year-old um what did you did you go


00:02:59 and meet the person did they get arrest rested how did that work oh I had no idea what I was doing like I was now now it's like we go into people's trailer homes and they're armed and then like we're just able to kind of navigate that situation but 19-year-old me back in the day I was scared to even go up to this dude like I just got his license plate drove or just drove off but I mean yeah a lot of our people at first did not get arrested we're from Houston Texas and Harris County doesn't really like to


00:03:26 prosecute criminals too much and you know back in the day we were doing it in a very professional way like we didn't really it didn't really occur to us that maybe we should get them to admit to crimes on camera and then turn that over so I'd say our first two years year and a half of doing it we're kind of figuring it out doing it the wrong way but since like late 2020 early 2021 we've just been racking up the arrest yeah so how many arrests have uh have you got um I lost count I just know it's


00:03:52 46 States except for Montana South Dakota Rhode Island and Alaska because we just haven't been to Alaska sure but it's at this point it's over 200 arrest wow that's amazing and how long does it normally take you to you know set these stings up well um it really depends like back in the day when we first started we were just doing like local dating app so it would be that same night but as we started to you know what I say catch the quote unquote real sick ones they're all bad but there's definitely levels to it


00:04:22 like we catch a lot of people now that are into infants and toddlers and you're not necessarily going to find that on like a dating app per se you might find somebody who's like oh you're in Home Alone I'll try this but um yeah it really varies um now it can take weeks or months simply because they could be so far away but we had one recently in League City Texas his name is Harry Phillips uh 21 years old and the youngest ones are always the sickest ones because they're good with the internet they have access they they know


00:04:48 how to access all types of child pornography that say a boomer won't be able to access or can't so Harry um he was going after our 12-year-old decoy and he came to meet her up for sexual contact and we mentioned that we had a four-year-old cousin and he was totally okay with that too and when I approached him in person uh he agreed to talk to me I talked to him for about an hour and 30 minutes and he admitted to me that yeah he was there to do sexual things to a 12-year-old he also admitted that when


00:05:16 he used to babysit kids when he was uh in California a couple years ago he molested a one-year-old and a 2-year-old and I'm sure he has other victims too that he just didn't admit to but he was just a total monster he his preference was baby like I don't think CU we get a lot of people have seen that stuff babies but not really I wouldn't say that's our preference this dude preferred babies um he said that he masturbated to pornography of infants I mean this guy was probably one of the sickest people


00:05:43 we've ever caught and luckily League City PD arrested him but then a guy yesterday we caught in Benton Illinois Kevin gats he's been talking to us since April and we finally got him arrested yesterday so it can take some it it all varies it could take a day or months or even a couple years so how does it work with law enforc M are they generally receptive are they I mean do you tell them ahead of time what you're doing how does that work it depends on the jurisdiction I would say they're mostly


00:06:08 receptive to what we do like yesterday in Benton Illinois uh we caught Kevin getts um he has a little three-year-old daughter um he was going after our 11-year-old decoy was just very vile like anything you could think of he said and um he also admitted to watching pornography as youngest babies and toddlers and seeing that pretty frequently but that area that prosecutor big shout out to Abigail Den the state's attorney in uh Franklin County Illinois she loves what we do as a matter of fact right before I got in here I was just on


00:06:37 the phone with her going over uh yesterday and she's like she gave us an update on another guy we caught in that county in December he's pleading to five years Thomas Boucher and uh yeah so she's very receptive that count is awesome and a lot of plac are like Huntsville Alabama Amarillo Texas and we go to places like that we do try to give them a heads up we do most of the time but um when we go to like a new place we don't really give too much of heads up we kind of just hand to them after and


00:07:00 if they're receptive we give them a heads up the next time if they're not then uh we don't have any jurisdiction said we're not going to take what you do oh absolutely um Great Falls Montana we've been to Great Falls Montana three times and each time we blatantly had somebody committing a crime straight up meeting an underage kid for sex um each time they've made admissions which I think were incriminating uh objectively and Great Falls Montana Cascade County just each time it's told us to piss off like they just don't want


00:07:33 anything to do with us and I think Montana's going to be probably number state number 50 when it comes down to it if we get an arrest there so so what what do they say to you when when they say we're not interested well um they say you're civilian evidence can't be used even though that's just objectively not true in 40 over 40 States the law states for solicitation of a minor or whatever you know enticement solicitation it changes kind of somehow uh with the name of it but whatever if you think you're talking to a kid sex as


00:08:00 long as they believe they're talking to a minor they can get charged for it so that's why our evidence can be used in like Alabama Texas Illinois etc etc because they believe they were talking to a minor and it's pretty obvious they thought that and they can get arrested for that but in Montana in Montana it's the same exact way as long as they believe they're talking to a minor and travel to meet that minor for sex they can get arrested that's happened three times and each time they they were just


00:08:24 like well um iak standards internet crimes against children standards which I think is total garbage um cuz we have iak detectives take up our cases in other jurisdictions I I have no idea why they don't who have you talked to from Montana that's like uh that's told you no is it the da is it the police um yeah so I've talked to the detective um let me see what his name is yeah I talked to the detective in Great Falls um gosh dar darn it I got to find his name I forgot what his name was but I talked to a detective there and


00:09:03 he's basically the one that was like he's basically the one that was like you know okay yeah detective bamban b b b m b n e k he's basically the one that's like yeah R da doesn't want to touch it he seemed to be kind of receptive to what we're doing like he's like sending it in anyway I want to go over it and I just haven't heard back since it's unfortunate because Great Falls has a big pedo problem I mean if we've driven up to 27 hours from Houston three separate times in two years I mean that's a pretty big issue so I mean if


00:09:34 they're saying that you know there's something procedural or it doesn't fall into certain standards yet it's being done in 46 other states I think you just said 46 other states um and the town or the city has a problem you know it makes you wonder why they're not you know what's what's really going on are they sympathizers are they you know is is that it doesn't sound like the detective is it sounds like he you know finds it something they can do but if the da have you looked up who the da is there in


00:10:11 Cascade County I haven't but I know it's a republican County and a lot of people like to say the Democrats are soft on crime which mostly they are yeah I mean it's kind of a rule of thumb that if we're going to a red County they're probably going to arrest them more than likely a blue County we try to get them to Red counties but there's exceptions to both I mean there's blue counties like St Louis County Missouri who loves what we do and prosecutes our people there and there's red counties like Kern


00:10:32 County in California and Cascade County in Montana that just tell us to completely F off but um no I haven't really looked into the da too much I just don't want to ever want to go back to Great Falls um don't want to beat a dead horse here yeah no I just uh it's unfortunate because ultimately you know the point is getting these Predators off the street right and you know and I'm not knocking how anybody else does it uh but what I like about what you do is that you do get the police involved it


00:11:03 makes a difference they get arrested they go to prison or jail and you get them off the streets where some other people that might not happen and you know I appreciate the effort on the other side too but I think the way you do it has the biggest impact and ultimately what we need in these situations are people that are making the biggest impact because you know you're not doing it for self fulfilling reasons you're doing it because want to make a difference and anybody who's doing it you know um to me you know


00:11:35 that's they should be doing it for those right reasons and so when I hear of a DA that says we're not going to prosecute and you don't get a good reason and they're saying that it can't be done because of some technicality but it's being done all over the country with you know a couple hundred arrests you know it makes me wonder and I'm not making any ACC accusations of course about that da but it makes me wonder who are they serving and why are they protecting pedophiles yeah I 100% agree I mean


00:12:08 there's no there's no reason to not take the ks up I mean screw it even if you are a pedos sympathizer I mean don't all these politicians want to win real elections anyway I mean what better way to say I put pedos away even even if it's like a plea deal like I could tell you I've testified in court I mean a lot of preliminary hearings lost count of those but trial very rarely because these idiots take I mean I I guess they're not stupid for taking a plea deal cuz they went to trial I mean it always ends bad for them but they always


00:12:35 they all almost always take plea deals I guarantee you that da can just offer you know whatever idiot we caught there offer them two years in prison and a plea deal I guarantee you they're going to take it and win in their book so if they only care about Optics they should take it anyway like there's no there's no reason to not take the case it's it doesn't make any sense to me you're giving it to them in a silver platter like hey you don't have to do all of this work right here it is right so yeah that's that's that's


00:13:02 upsetting um you know I thought a lot about what you do and it's an interesting model because I I think you have to be careful if you're just like the guys that go out and beat people up and those type of things I not judging them I I don't think that's that's good I want to beat the guys up too don't get me wrong oh yeah if you want to make the biggest impact you got to put them away and you know with your model if it were structured um in the right way you could have one of these in every city and you


00:13:35 could have you know there would be so many volunteers because you know everybody wants to get not everybody but you know most people want to get those people off the street find it appalling and uh you could save the police forces a lot of resources and time and you could just serve these serve these cases up you'd probably have to have a specific okay we need to hit this point this point this point systematize it to where um if it's you're giving the perfect case to the DA that checks the boxes and I don't know


00:14:10 what those boxes are but um I think it has potential to make a really a huge impact yeah we've started to do that um I have a guy we call him PP Agent Orange um he has a he has a law enforcement background and he kind of does it under me in North Carolina Virginia like kind of like those midatlantic states and he's already racked up I believe like close to 10 arrests at this point he's only been doing it a couple months but he's been great and it saved me the gas of going to North Carolina I can just go


00:14:38 to other states now and I'm working on maybe getting another guy to do it I just got to be very careful with that because liability I don't want any BS falling back on me like I know Agent Orange in person so I mean I trust him and shoot he before he started doing this he was giving me advice cuz he has that background telling me what to say so I mean you know I obviously trust him with it and I just got be very careful who I vet because yeah like you said the people that beat him up I don't want


00:15:03 that falling back on me and trust me like when I hear Harry Phillips tell me that he molested a one-year-old um I want to do things that if I say it will get you banned on YouTube so I'm not going to say it but like it's like it's it's what's practical like people say oh the Justice the justice system sucks it definitely does you know these people need to be in jail for the rest of their lives and the da give way too many slaps on the wrist but it's not about what's perfect in this world it's about what's


00:15:28 optimal and what's optim sending them to jail giving them registry and in some case we do have life sentences so I mean it's not like it's in it's not like it's always bad sure yeah well I want to connect you with some of my friends because a lot of them are ex Special Forces they go on these missions and stuff and you know uh the right structure could make I mean you're already making a big difference but I mean it could make a giant giant impact and uh you've got to do thing you'd have to have HR you know figure out who you


00:15:56 could hire in whatever area to you know make sure background check all the all the boxes are checked for you to be safe but um I really like the model I mean it saves uh the states and cities money oh definitely uh people are passionate about they would want to do it I mean they want to volunteer you know and um yeah I could just I could see you going really really far with it I I like it because you know it's it's a way that citizens uh can make a real real difference and we're all kind of looking


00:16:31 we all want to make a difference you know like oh we want to do good here here but you know a lot of times we don't have a way that we can see doing it and uh I think that yours could start a movement man it's it's uh it's effective oh no it has like yesterday um in Benton Illinois the only reason we were able to get that dude arrested is because um this person that I knew in that county I met him because we caught this guy named Thomas Boucher in December in West frankurt that's a town over and his neighbor you know was


00:16:59 talking him after telling him what was going on we exchange phone numbers and I'm like I hit him up like hey I can't find this guy can you try to find this dude and he ends up finding him like a few weeks later and that's why like we're able to get him so that is definitely the community getting involved yeah absolutely um so what's kind of the process that you use you use forums and dating apps Etc but uh I mean do you just make a post how does all that work oh it totally varies like um for the most part it's I always say like


00:17:30 yeah it's tedious to try to get these admissions out of them it's tedious to talk to them for for months and months and sometimes years but the easy part is just getting a ped to hit you up online that is so so easy I want to show you this real quick if I could um this is what my decoy sent me earlier she's was giving me a little bit of an update of giveing me a little bit of an update of what she has going on so these two screen recordings are from both of her accounts and these are just all the


00:17:57 pedos like within the past day that's been talking talking to her gosh wow yeah and and she just what does she do to get them them to respond oh no we respond to them they they they hit us up um but yeah it could involve like putting out like a post or something saying I want friends or hi how's it going like just posting on our wall or whatever but often times I mean we go to our inbox it's just friend request friend request friend request friend friend request like there's never a shortage of these people it's it's it's


00:18:27 unbelievable but yeah we always end up telling them that we indicate that we're underage and where we're decoying almost all the time they're okay with it I mean I can't think of one in the past couple years that said they were not okay with the age but on the dating apps which we don't really use anymore it's more like half and half some are like all right you're too young but um then other times you know we do it kind of unconventionally sometimes we pose as a pedo ourselves like you know I told you


00:18:53 I'm 24 and you looked a little bit shocked when I told you that at first so um the pedos also don't believe I'm 4 so I've posed as a 35-year-old father of a 9-year-old girl before and we've gotten a few people arrested because they think they're meeting up with the dad and the nine-year-old girl like we had a so sick man yep and Eric grow in mared Indiana he drove four hours from heart Harman or Heartfield Ohio I forgot the town but um he drove to Maran Indiana in March um I had him on the hidden camera I had my


00:19:21 daughter with me who is um you know actually his girlfriend now one of my decoys and she was you know she was wearing a mask and all kind of look younger and all that and I you know we had one of our subscribers talk about Community getting involved playing as my wife and hidden camera walk in the room he's caught red-handed on camera you know talking about the child porn he has on his phone mention that he did stuff with his own daughter all in the hidden camera and then when I reveal it to him


00:19:47 of course the first thing he does is Backtrack on molesting his own daughter predictably but you know I end up talking to him um as you know catching him for like close to two hours he ends up admitting to child pornography trading child pornography he ended up getting arrested that night for attempted molestation and child pornography and he has trial coming up uh I forgot the date but very soon wow yeah what are the laws like across the country for this when I hear two years or five years I think you know there's


00:20:14 people that do what I would consider much less crimes and get more time than that what is there uh what do they like well it's not really the laws that are too bad it's the enforcement of them that's the problem like so many sex I I mean I don't have the stats on this but this just using common sense I would assume that sex crime offenses of pedophiles are the ones that are least taken to trial because nobody wants to put that out there in front of a jury so I would assume you know if you're like


00:20:42 drunk driving or something you know there's no like uh humiliation arguing I wasn't drunk or whatever but you know you don't want to go through your messages as a pedo and stuff but um so I think a lot of them get light sentences because they take so many plea deals and the Das are so giddy on just saying look I won I put a pedo away without you know actually putting a pet away for such a long time but um in Most states the laws are pretty good um there's a few States like Maryland Pennsylvania Ohio Nebraska


00:21:08 and a couple others where it has to be law enforcement on the other end of the communication for it to be Pro prosecutable offense but the way we get around that is you know we go to Nebraska we catch a lot of people with child pornography and they get arrested for that same with Ohio and Pennsylvania but you know if we get somebody in those States and they're just messaging our decoy and there's no child por on their phone I mean they they walk free so wow yeah um I noticed and correct me if I'm


00:21:31 wrong here um some of the people that you're busting seem to be a little slow is there a uh mental acuity correlation with you know a certain percentage of people um yes I I would say the reason that is I mean we get like 25 to 30 of these people every month like I believe Kevin yesterday was number 26 of the month so there's going to be a handful that are slow like we put out a pretty big net and you know sometimes we catch people who are so slow and I mean we had a guy uh last trip who was just so completely


00:22:06 just completely dumb that I just like took his phone and went through it and there was nothing on there I didn't bother going to the cops I mean this this guy was obviously just like this type and like screw it but yeah there's definitely a decent portion it's not most of them or even half of them but there's a notable enough portion that are slow and I don't I don't buy the reason um that they're just D that they're just [ __ ] and they just message kid I don't really I don't really buy that maybe it's out of


00:22:36 loneliness but again I mean there's a lot of special needs people that will never message a kid that know it's wrong yeah so I I just think with anything else I mean it just is a coincidence that that happens yeah I mean there's uh I mean even if they are special needs they need to get off the streets because they're doing damage I just was kind of like I was just kind of like okay that person seems like they're a little little slow I got arrested 24 25 years ago and uh on on drug charges and it's


00:23:05 part of my past was explain it to you one day but uh I spent about six months in jail and there was a a guy in there that was telling me this stuff he was doing he was he was special needs and his logic and reason I'm like this is sick so I actually went to the guards and said hey this guy just told me all of this stuff and they investigated and he got in trouble for it but um you know he he was justifying it you know and I'm sure you probably see that where people justify these you know so so their their logic is so far off of what


00:23:47 you or I would think or anybody that's normal would think um talk about some of these people's mindset cuz I'm guessing you've seen similar things oh they like it all this [ __ ] um yeah well um Jean cler in Tacoma well he's from Ritzville Washington drove four hours to Tacoma we caught him in 2022 um he ended up getting two years and he was a sex offender got two years but you know that's long for Washington proud of them for that um he he was on the registry originally for molesting a 2-year-old and his logic was the


00:24:21 2-year-old touched his penis and it was the 2-year-old's fault that's the most extreme I've seen with that I mean I've seen other where yeah I mean I'm on the registry for a 13-year-old but you know she told me she was 18 I didn't know till after stuff like that but um I also heard a guy oh man what was his name Donald Griffin in Spokane was sorry Deer Park Washington sub of Spokane we caught him in March and his case ended up going Federal for child porn but you know when he was describing videos of infants he


00:24:50 was watching he was like oh the infants seem to enjoy it and that was probably the most shocking one I've heard about the chal porn they watched because I've heard them say like oh I've seen the videos of babies of course I didn't like it even though I can describe the whole video in detail but they always say like they look in pain and all this stuff but Donald was like oh yeah they enjoy it and he was just completely child born brained out yeah I do want to beat him man when I hear that [ __ ] oh yeah and


00:25:16 you know that's a guy that's escaped Justice his whole life I mean he said he got his leg broken because they accused him of sleeping with this 14-year-old girl in Oregon which of course you know what a coincidence right so you know even when we catch them with something like chal porn you know there's always a history there with that like I'll say it's kind of off topic but we caught a guy Donald lecher in South Dakota last month he ended up blowing his brains out which is why we don't have a South


00:25:41 Dakota arrest I mean we'd have 47 if he just hung in there for a little bit longer he ended up uh dying at the hospital that night but you know was after you busted him yes yes and he did it he did it when the cops were on scene so you know I'm liability free for that you know what I'm saying but um you know he admitted watching all this child pornography he was messaging our fake 12-year-old account didn't ask to meet up for sex but was asking for nudes from us and obviously we can't provide that


00:26:05 but he was trying to get it from us and you know he blows his brains out and turns out Donald lecher in 1996 got uh convicted for molesting a 9-year-old girl but he was not a sex offender because South Dakota Supreme Court overturned it so who knows what he was doing for the next 28 years you know and then boom 28 years later he gets caught for child porn then all that gets unearth and I think that's why he ended up doing it to himself gosh it's just yeah it's bunch of sickos what's uh the craziest case you've


00:26:33 worked on well I'd say Donald lecher loan his brands that was pretty nuts um Let me let me let me dig back for this one um I'll give a crazy scenario that happened maybe it maybe it'll count so in 2021 we caught an individual named Fred Hendricks Jr and Eugene Oregon and he owned a mechanic shop and he was a sex offender but I'll tell you he was very Charming like he like outside of being a pedo like if you didn't know he was a pedo you'd be like oh that's Fred what a great guy like you could tell and even


00:27:08 the even the reviews on his car shop very like oh he gave me a discount he was great very understanding and you could see why he molested a lot of kids because using that charm he probably got got his way into all that stuff but um we get him and he's one of those people that his head was so far up his butt I mean he just loved to talk about what he did um so he was I didn't really have to interrogate him per se I just listened to what he told me and he admitted to talking to this 8-year-old girl you know


00:27:37 sexually he got three years in prison um for our little case on him but what happened was he talked about molesting his daughter which is what he went to prison for in the first place um before he got out and messag our decoy but he admitted to molesting all these other kids like just freely it's not like I got it out of him or anything he just told me and what happened was when that video came came out um his niece who he admitted to molesting in the video in Arizona she files a police report with


00:28:04 Maricopa County and what happened was she told her family back then that it happened and nobody believed that Fred did that to her wow but on video now he's admitting to doing it to her so they ended up charging him with that they exted him from Oregon when a sentence was over and he's now doing 25 years in Arizona because he yeah yeah yeah so good well that's a good sentence that is you know I agree with that um have you you ever get anybody to get like life in prison yes um uh we have a 131e sentence which I


00:28:36 consider a life sentence um Mark mow in Converse Texas um he was out on bond when we caught him for child pornography he was a middle school teacher um he got caught by like you know Nick Mick tip or whatever and the cops just got him for that but he gets out we were coincidentally on a dating app so we don't really pull too many uh quote unquote child you know really bad ones from there but he hit up our 14-year-old decoy um he gave us his phone number I saw who it was and I looked him up I'm like no way this guy's like out on bond


00:29:03 right now and we approach him at his home he admited the messages with the 14-year-old admits to having child porn again and you know uh went to trial in Bear County took it to trial like a fool I mean he he he got a 50-year plea deal um offered to him did not take it and he ended up getting sentenced to 131 years from the first case and and our case and um then we had another guy um Aaron Scott Kingston and all Oregon he was a sex offender too we caught him again he got life in prison he's doing it in


00:29:32 Snake River in uh in all the way in East Oregon uh he got life sentence for that which is crazy for Oregon and then we caught an individual named Jeffrey Rose in Las Vegas he was probably one of the sickest people we've caught and this is a crazy one um we caught him in 2023 and he was out on he had an ankle monitor on he was already sentenced to life in prison in the early 2000s for molesting a bunch of kids but his attorney scored him a pre-trial so he was out on like pre-trial release or something like that with the ankle


00:30:03 monitor he hits up our 9-year-old decoy account his first message to us is do you like child porn to a nine-year-old girl and I mean shout out to my guy for decoying that one cuz God what a sicko I mean just a lunatic and um yeah so we approach him at his home we find out where he lives uh he admits to us that he has 50,000 images of child porn stored and you know he's like I have it all saved for the FBI I got folders in my uh in my room for the FBI and all that stuff and obviously that wasn't


00:30:30 true but the way I got him to admit to all that is because okay you're trying to do the right thing I'll help you with that and I'm like I hope you're saving all that stuff and documenting right he's like oh I'm saving all of it and documenting it all I'm like all right you're saving child porn but what was crazy about him is he started crying at the end because he knew his life was over but he would never admit to touching those kids he would admit to the child pornography he admit to jacking off to babies but he would never


00:30:52 admit to touching those kids but you know he did not end up going to rra he just took a plea deal for 25 to Life after that that's a good sentence too yeah um what's the most dangerous uh situation that you've been in her or you know a multiple dangerous situations you've been in well most recently um we got a guy arrested in Winchester well Steven City Virginia sub of Winchester named Holden Briggs this was like a couple weeks ago um he threatened me with an AR-15 he didn't pull it out or anything


00:31:21 but um I saw that one y yeah yeah yeah so as soon as I brought up telegram which is an app they use very common to trade child porn on and you know I don't like agree with the telegram founder getting arrested or anything like that but it's true when they say there's child porn on there I mean there a [ __ ] ton but um yeah he's like you got two minutes to get off my property or else and you know I dip out of there but I end up calling him on his phone and he's 23 I'm 24 but I look older I can say hey


00:31:45 man when I was your age and stuff like that you know play that role um he agreed to come talk to me and you know I freaking calmed him down he admitted to sending all these dickpics to kids and to viewing child por on the dark web and he got arrested and all that and he was like going crazy like saying I'm going to kill myself now whatever but um like go ahead you're right but um turns out when they searched this car he brought a shotgun and AR-15 to the scene when he met us at this parking lot after so who


00:32:14 knows I don't think he was I think I calmed down enough to where he wasn't planning on doing anything but you know just in case [ __ ] hit the fan for him I mean what a psycho are you armed when you go to these me personally no but I can't speak for my friends so yeah they're local they can have their permits and stuff that's good um what's a what's a another dangerous one that you've you've been involved with well uh John Rector in Massachusetts a couple months ago in uh I think in May or June


00:32:42 or something um he only talked to me for like five minutes and he's like I knew I messed up I knew she was 11 the conversation's over I'm like John John and he starts going to his car just kind of walking there I'm like are you getting anything and he doesn't respond to me I'm like uh oh and he goes into his uh little side door he pulls out a pistol and we just run the hell out of there and then he ended up so I hid in this apartment and he called me on my phone CU I had his phone number because


00:33:09 you know I was delivering a package to him so try to meet him up somewhere for that and um he calls me in like in like a demonic voice he's like where are you and I'm like dude God I was so scared shitless but he ended up getting arrested on the gun charges I don't think he's been charged for the underage stuff yet though wow wow yeah I mean yeah I mean so when you're going into these situations like you know do you have a plan of if you know [ __ ] gets wild what to do yeah I mean you know we try to never ever ever show what we have


00:33:44 on us like if we can get out of there first we can but I mean we do prepare I mean we have we have what we have for a reason and you know if it gets to a point I mean you know my camera guys are in the car most of the time I mean step on the gas and just run them over yeah yeah I mean yeah it's uh what's the mindset that you have going in is it an adrenaline rush is it let's take us to that process well to me it's like preparing for game day playing football and all that I just I don't know like I just like the whole process


00:34:22 of it like yesterday when we're were trying to look for Kevin still um we knew where he was but he just wasn't answering his door so we're trying to get a hold of him so I mean we had to go to his ex-girlfriend's job we talked to her you know just doing some factchecking I mean that's all that's all fun but going into it I wouldn't say it's an adrenaline rush anymore cuz I don't know I mean when it's like a really bad one like Harry who's just saying all this crazy stuff and yeah maybe a little bit but the adrenaline's


00:34:47 gone I I just really have fun with it I mean I'm just it's like game day just prepare for it put on the music and just get ready to win cuz you got it's like it's like mental chess it's like it's competition to me so that's awesome man I can imagine that uh there would be an adrenaline rush to it oh it's fine and uh you know there's danger you're putting your life at risk pretty much every time yeah so uh you you never know um you train any like Brazilian jiu-jitsu or MMA oh my God I got to man


00:35:14 I mean I just got back in the gym the past six months um I but man traveling the country we have 85,000 miles on this car already that I got in that I got in January brand new so I I ballooned up to like 350 lbs it just toally out of shape and I'm like as soon as I saw a comment on one of my videos like Alex consider getting on OIC I'm like oh hell no I can't there's no way a 24y oldold should be hearing that so you know rather than use that to be like oh how dare you it just it's like I mean I went so harder


00:35:44 in the gym when I played football I mean I wasn't the best player I mean I was pretty good but like I would always work the hardest I mean no matter what I do I'm going to work the hardest and even with other Predator catch I always say I'm not I'm not going to say I'm the best but I'm going to say I work harder than them for sure but man that just got motivated me to get back in the gym and like screw that so I'm down to 315 now got a long way to go I want to get down to like 290 but yeah that's pretty much


00:36:06 it you know for from a self-defense aspect that's where I was bring bringing it up not because of of weight it's more of like you know these situations get a little hairy you might it might be good to have some uh yeah I I need to do that I I definitely do yeah there's some um there's some gyms in Houston I'll I'll look them up that was my old background and uh see if there's you know good one that that I'll sponsor your uh your your fee in there too appr I'll take care of that one for you my little brother used to go


00:36:36 to Gracie bar but he just got so busy with his work too but yeah man couple days a week because you know you get in these crazy situations MH and you know you really need to know know the technical aspect of Defending yourself absolutely right and it would just help and with your size it's a big Advantage so just understanding some just the basics would make a huge difference no you're AB I'll take you up on that you're absolutely right yeah um and even like I mean setting this up in a a way and I I'm happy to help fund you know


00:37:12 the stuff that you're doing even I'm thinking oh your car well do we sponsor getting you a car to you know to go in and things like that things that could help you out how are you making uh a living though well we're making a living from having the best supporters in the world um so you know we post our videos up to platforms you know there's ad revenue and all that but you know YouTube has banned us so or sorry ban my lookalikes I've never had a YouTube channel but they banned my lookalikes so


00:37:40 many times and so we can't really rely on them and so that's a small piece of the pie now we usually use locals.com and I'm not endorsing locals.com they need to get their stuff together it's just the platform's like glitchy as hell I don't even know what it is it's like you know Rumble obviously right so locals like patreon kind of okay yeah they need they need to fix their stuff but um yeah I mean we got supporters on there we got thousands of supporters on there and they give anywhere from like 5


00:38:06 to 10 bucks a month and they see the results we get we make sure to update them with conviction to show them that you know your money's not going to uh you know Lamborghini or anything it's going to getting these people locked up and you know they're very supportive they've been with us through through the thick and thin and I can't ask for anybody better so that's how we make a living um well you know if you can get a nonprofit setup uh you know and I've got people that could help you with that too um I'm


00:38:32 happy to give you a monthly uh you know nice donation to help you out and you know help spread the word because it's it's really good work man and I think with the right structure that uh you know you can make it you already making a big difference but you can make a huge huge difference I agree you know I'm 24 I think I'm okay at talking to pedos but all the other stuff I mean I'm still like a 24y old so you're doing pretty darn good though man I it takes experience and you know it's uh but there's people that that that would


00:39:02 would want to get involved and you know because anybody who's a good person wants to get this [ __ ] off the street oh yeah you know and it could be tougher laws it could be uh you know more investigations but you know there's so many people that would volunteer to be a part of something like this and then he's got to get funding and I don't think you'll have a problem actually raising a good amount of money to you know structure it out make the biggest impact that you possibly can and uh yeah I think that you and you deserve by the


00:39:35 way in my opinion you deserve to make a good living uh dedicating your life to saving children like you should for sure be comfortable so I will say if you do want to bankroll something I'm thinking about running for a place next year in the textas House of Representatives because you know there was this case um that happened in Livingston Texas like an hour and a half from me and her name is Cunningham and what happened was I may get a few of these details wrong but she was killed by a convicted sex


00:40:05 offender and I think the detail might be missing here is I don't think he was convicted any I'm sorry I don't think he was a sex offender anymore he got such a light sentence so I don't think the dad knew and you know he was living on the property and ended up murdering her my gosh so yeah there's so much stuff like that you know and I don't see why any City would want to be light on uh you know people that molest children I don't get it you know and you know there is a push right now I think I see a lot of


00:40:35 things as good versus evil right right and you know like Germany uh uh I think they decriminalized uh owning child poort yeah yeah put it down to like a misdemeanor or something like that yeah something stupid and there is a push normalizing uh that is well what they minor attracted persons changing the name of things and we've seen that a lot last really four or five years where you know the truth is being shown as a lie and lies are the truth and they're really manipulating uh I really the Sheep into thinking a certain way like


00:41:12 oh no this is normal like no that's not normal um and so yeah I just think that you know with with what you're doing you know if you got into the the state house really pushing for tougher Laws Texas is probably pretty tough though correct no oh man you would think you would think Tex is you know disappointing I mean yeah I mean Audrey Cunningham's murderer I don't even think was a sex offender at the time and we've had so many people in Texas just get slaps on the wrist reoffending sex offenders get a year or


00:41:47 two in prison so I I would what I would want to propose and you know I'm just all brainstorming at this point definitely no General popul or sorry no protective custody for pedos throw them in general population just like Mississippi does and raising the minimums like I understand we can't just I understand practically it's not going to be death penalty for messaging a minor but minimum of 10 years stop giving these people plea deals it's happening too much and I I think what's pretty broken can be a little bit more


00:42:16 fixed so yeah yeah absolutely uh what have you learned throughout this process how has it possibly changed you um it's changed in quite a few ways I think the number one thing that I've said I've learned is um evil has no limits and CU I used to think you know when I first caught these people I'd feel bad oh he's just down on his dumps in his life right now oh it's depression that's making him do this this was 19-year-old me you know I used to have some type of sympathy for them not all of them but some of them if they gave me


00:42:46 a good enough sop story 19-year-old me was like oh okay okay I understand but now I realize how many of these people are just manipulators how much how just effortlessly they lie I'm not saying they're good liars I'm just saying they lie pretty effortlessly and just the pure depravity I mean we've caught people that are had their own dogs sucking their dick I mean just just the most depraved [ __ ] you know e evil truly has no limits and Evil's real but another thing is I'd say just don't be don't be don't live your life in fear


00:43:17 don't be paranoid like if you're looking for evil you'll find it you know life's still good most people are still good people you know you're probably not going to be hurt you know what I'm saying so just like don't be paranoid from our videos understand it exists but don't don't like uh don't just live your life coward don't say oh I don't want any kids because pedos like you know don't don't let them win that's what that's what I'd say uh what do you think that um your videos have done for the


00:43:46 conversation uh of of this online I think it's done a lot um it it's shown that the pedo problem cuz I used to say this is the most untalked about problem that we have in the country now but now I'd say I don't think it's untalked about I think it's talked about all the time and I think it's also shown that you know yes Jeffrey Epstein and all of his associates need to be um crimes nurburg I I get that but the problem is down your street I mean the guy yesterday uh who helped us find the P Kevin the pedo


00:44:18 I mean we caught his neighbor in December and got him arrested and now he's doing 5 years so like the problem is down your street and just look locally you know look locally don't you know because we've had so many people like you know come to us and say hey I was a victim of this as a kid I went through this as a kid and never was it oh it was a guy on a remote island doing this to me it was always the neighbor it was always the family friend and I think it it should teach people if you want to


00:44:43 solve problems start small and look locally yeah no absolutely um you know with Society going in this I'm going to call it evil Direction definitely uh I think what you're doing shows that you know one person uh can make a a big you know a big difference just with a seemingly simple post and simple and then you know uh arrest hopefully yeah um what percentage of the cases that you have uh end an arrest I would say it averages out till about half and a half so I was talking was talking to him earlier and you know we


00:45:26 had three three in the last two days Uh Kevin got arrested on the spot um because the the state's attorney in Illinois in that part of Illinois just loves us and we love her back but then we had a guy uh two days ago in Houston that we've caught and the cops didn't even show up and even when we do turn him in I don't anticipate they're going to do anything about this because where I'm from in Houston just they just suck with Prosecuting criminals then we had another guy in Liberty Texas and uh same


00:45:53 thing we're going to turn that individual in we already made like a we already told the cops and we're going to meet with him on Wednesday so that's going to be a tossup whether he gets arrested or not but um yeah that's what it kind of averages out to 50/50 like if we're going to like you know Baltimore they're probably not going to do too much versus like you know Benton Illinois so interesting why do you think the bigger cities don't want to do anything I think it's a combination of things I mean the cops are so overloaded


00:46:17 with their stuff and then I mean I think people in bigger cities are just less involved with who they elect and less involved with who's representing them or at least supposed to represent present them so I think they just elect people that just don't give a [ __ ] and it reflects yeah how do you see Predator poachers evolving like if you have a vision of five or 10 years what does that look like to you well I usually don't look too far ahead I look you know at the next day and the next catch and


00:46:44 all that but ideally um sadly we're starting to have people notice who I am like this past trip we caught a subscriber to our Rumble Channel and he still talked to me and confess a child porn anyway um he's like I know the Playbook and I'm like I don't give a [ __ ] if you know the Playbook tell me the truth and he did but then we had another guy who knew who I was and he just shuts the door in my face and nothing happened to him so wow um ideally in five to 10 years I want more people doing this under the Predator


00:47:10 poacher's name like we already have one guy doing it under our name and hopefully another guy real soon we're talking about it and you know just trusted people doing this like I don't want to have to go to you know Oregon all the time or go to Maine all the time so you know hopefully get it going across the country and in the end it's more rest of pedos um how would you say this has affected you personally um I think it's made me uh sharper with communicating with people I'd say like I mean we've had to meet


00:47:41 people from all walks of life you know we met people just on welfare and we met people that are making a ton of money and just we've really got to see the whole country like I I you know I know slanging in Oregon I know slanging in you know other parts of the country so I mean it's it's really I think it's made me pretty well read I want to say or well versed in stuff and you know it's definitely I think made me sharper too like knowing how to kind of uh talk to pet like I I think I got better at


00:48:08 questioning these people like if you see in 2019 it's like nothing like it is now so I don't know just meeting people across the country from all walks of life whether they're pedos or whether they're subscribers or just random people I think it's definitely gave me a lot of experience in a good way that's awesome what what do you think uh what's some of your biggest frustrations that you you deal with on a day-to-day week toe basis oh my gosh um one of them I mean definitely just the cops not showing up in some place is like the we


00:48:35 we just kind of ended the interview with the pedo in Houston um an hour and a half after calling the cops he didn't even know they were called and we just you know we can't stall this guy all night eventually he's just going to go back inside and just call it so that's a big frustration the cops not showing up in some places and another another frustration I don't know trying to think I'm not too frustrated with life I mean I'm pretty happy dude I think but I I think if I had to choose it would be not


00:49:01 seeing family as much as I want to like my grandma's 88 years old and you know sadly you know I used to see her like every week but now it's like once a month so you know I kind of want to be there for her but yeah such is life yeah so you've been getting uh you know more involved in politics um how do you think your work you know could influence your political future well hopefully in a good way um I think the uh I think think the going after the pedos platform is going to is pretty Universal you know


00:49:31 you know I think I think most people on the left are anti-to I just think they uh are naive and just claim you know their politicians would never support that stuff they're just more naive than anti-to I think it is but um I I hope it affects it in a good way you know my my platform would be um raising sentences on pedos and slashing taxes rather than raising taxes and slashing sentences on pedos so I mean I think it' be a pretty liked one I think it'll be what be good that's that's funny yeah yeah it's a a


00:49:59 good platform actually that's a great one um I saw you recently had some Choice words about uh Trump uh and I've shared uh similar feelings yeah but um you talk a little bit about that cuz I thought I was like well your audience is probably mostly Trump supporters definitely so did you were you concerned you running the risk of losing people by doing that well I think we built our Audience by you know working our asses off catching a lot of pedos getting a lot of pedos arrested and you know they


00:50:32 stick around because I say what's on my mind you know I was a huge Trump supporter in 2020 and 2016 I couldn't vote quite yet I was too young but you know what it is with Trump I don't give a [ __ ] if he had to push the VX or if he whatever no leader pushes a poison shot on their people I don't care who you are and still pushes it to this day operation warp speed is my biggest problem with him the vaccine is the biggest bioweapon I think in history um he took a million dollars from fiser for his inauguration if you look at the


00:50:59 federal government numbers OB uh Trump had more federal government employees than even Obama did um up until Co he spent the same amount of money as Obama did per year and Obama's no fiscal conservative I'm sure as you know and during covid I'm sorry I don't care there's no excuse for Universal basic income there's no excuse for stimulus checks and now what what politics is it's who can Pander to the welfare to the welfare Queens because I've seen on Twitter oh vote for KLA Harris going to give you a stimulus check no vote for


00:51:28 Trump he's going to give it to you I'm sorry he moved the he moved the Republican party so much to the left that it's it's basically now now you know 2016 his rhetoric was great now it's like we're going to let in so many legal immigrants I'm not voting this year when a farri person runs let me know wake me up and I'll vote for him but but he he said that he's going to let in a bunch of illegals no leg legal immigrants legal immigrants but you know a piece of paper doesn't mean that you're not going to leech off the system


00:51:56 it mean that you're not going to be a burden like and I and I think there needs to be Mass deportations I mean you know people say illegal immigrants don't Lee off tax dollars I'm from Houston they do I mean I worked with a lady and she's awesome she's sweet I love her a lot but you know she has she's illegal she had four kids and they're all on food stamps they're all using the public school system [ __ ] I even dat an illegal immigrant in high school like it's it's it's a problem well you know I think


00:52:22 there's a difference between illegal and legal you know someone who comes to our country legally MH uh and I I've seen reports that they're like four times more likely to become a millionaire than someone who was born here because they see the American dream they see how great our country is how much opportunity we have in in the country and so I don't actually have a problem at all with people coming in Legally and doing what they're supposed to do I think it actually helps our our country and I actually do believe there should


00:52:50 be more from a legal standpoint they go through the process they they uh do they're supposed to do they learn about our country they want to make a positive uh difference especially in the science in stem Fields I mean we only have so much talent here and you know if we want our country to keep you know evolving and growing I think we need that but on a illegal standpoint I agree I think we should have mass deportations they are literally flooding uh our country right now and I'm a lot of them are uh are um


00:53:24 committing uh sexual crimes against men and women in Houston too Joselyn Nuru two Venezuelan illegals just raped and murdered her yeah man gosh it's just so wild and it's wild seeing the left just the left anyone defend it you know cuz I I I care about people I don't want people that are suffering in other countries to be hurt or whatever happens to them but I also love our country we have so many problems in our country I saw report that we were spending approximately $450 billion a year on the illegal immigrants


00:54:04 right now dude that is outrageous when we can't even feed you know our own people yeah um we need we need to get a little bit mean um being mean to others is being nice to our own people um you know and if it's it's the same thing like oh we we can't go too hard on the criminals you know we need to rehab them okay well for the Vic that hurts them nobody talks about the victims of you know their false altruism and you know when you give 450 billion dollar to illegals you're like oh but it's just


00:54:36 helping them no the victims are the taxpayer and the poor Americans that's right that's right and that's it's wild when you see they were you know they're being shipped to these U Democrat cities and you see you know underserved communities not getting the resources yet the illegal immigrants you know getting loans and getting opportunities that you know I'm not for the welfare state on either side me either I'm also if you're going to give it to somebody I'd rather give it to American citizens


00:55:10 than someone who snuck across a border I will say our welfare system is totally broken um we catch so many of these pedos on welfare I'll give you one example of how broken the welfare system is um Charles Pelfrey we got him arrested in West Virginia um in April or some sometime early this year and we caught him first at Divine Texas in 2022 he was not arrested on the spot divine's like a little bit South of San Antonio not arrested on the spot but they took up the case they put out a warrant for


00:55:37 his arrest a couple weeks later and in that time he bolted to West Virginia where he's originally from and he's at a warrant out for the past two years and he hits up another one of our decoy accounts we find out where he is in West Virginia and straight up like we just talked to him basically called the cops on him and the cop sees that he has a warrant and he gets extra back to Texas but while he's in West Virginia with the felony sex crime child sex crime warrant out for his arrest he was able to score


00:55:59 government housing and get $1,000 a month from the government it's [ __ ] crazy yeah well I mean the system is set up I mean the the biggest problem that we have right now in the black communities is fatherless homes yeah you know it's it's something like 80% right now right right and um you know that kind of all started right after the Civil Rights Act 1964 when uh we encouraged those communities to not uh have fathers in the home we we we uh gave people more money when they were single mothers and those type of things


00:56:30 and it really screwed up the system you know I'm I'm all for helping people though as far as I think we should have nonprofit programs we should have you know a lot of different things that should help people and I think there is some some well I I think there's use into helping citizens that are working to get on a good path um that said the welfare state is out of control and you know the titles that we put on these communities like um what do they call them marginalized or you know these little buzzword


00:57:06 oppressed uh my concern when you tell a large group of people that there are certain things they might actually believe it because if you believe that you're disadvantaged or that the whole world's racist or uh that um you don't have a chance then you're not going to have a chance and you're going to see the world through those lens that everything's unfair even me right now I I've I've done very well I could choose to think that everything's against me or I could choose to think that God is blessing me and uh giving me opportunity


00:57:39 and that's what I choose but it really is a choice of how you see things and if all these kids hear is how how how the system is against them uh and oh you just got to take this check you know they're actually going to believe that and and do that well you seen the flies in the jar thing okay so there's there's this experiment that was done um basically you know they capture a bunch of fleas or flies in a jar or whatever it is they put the they put the cap on for three days and then by the time they


00:58:09 remove the cap no fleas leave the jar they're just so used to that no matter what so even if they're shown the way they're just still just stuck in that same mentality and I think you you know I start to understand more and more because you know you're super successful and I'm hoping to be that one day and I'm definitely more successful than I was at 19 but I'm starting to see now it's like all right you know I went the same quote unquote underscore underserved schools that a lot of these PE kids did you know my school was like


00:58:37 22 white kids and out of 2200 students you know and I'm not saying I wasn't poor growing up at all but you know I was just zoned to that school so I went there but um I have the same teachers I had like s a similar path but I can figure it out so I I start to understand you know and CLA Schwab is one evil POS he needs to be nberg too but I can see why these people kind of hate us because we're just Perpetual victims we're just kind of losers and I can see why they're like oh these little peons they play


00:59:04 these games with us because it's just fun to them I think that's what it is because we're just so easy to manipulate I think it starts people need to stop being manipulated like you know I'm a Jew and I have a lot of issues with Jews Like promoting pornography and you know the [ __ ] stuff and those are Jews behind a lot of that and you know I'll be the first to say that on the other hand stop watching pornography don't just say I have to do this because of the Jews just stop watching pornography


00:59:30 take some you know too much finger pointing not enough thumb pointing going on oh yeah that's I think that's the biggest problem in our society thumb point I I agree you know the victim mentality makes people miserable exactly it's personal responsibility is where it's at man this is a key to success this is a key to happiness um you know when we put everything else on other people and we don't look to ourselves even and I've done some leadership courses and uh that that they go pretty deep into this


01:00:02 but like let's say someone was molested as a child now they're 25 years old horrible thing that happened when they're a child but you know are you going to let that situation exactly dictate your at some point you have to take responsibility for where you're at not that you did anything wrong when you were a kid but where you're at and that you're not going to let that affect you the rest of your life and and we have this victim mentality where it's like the oppression Olympics you know it's like who can be more oppressed well yeah


01:00:30 cuz we're so used to like we're so used to just thinking oh because this happened to me it's not fair what enough people don't understand we need to stop using the word equality in our in our in our vocabulary because people think oh my situation is equal to them so I'm just going to be a loser now no no no I've grew up more fortunate than a lot of kids a lot of kids grew up more fortunate than me you know somewhere in the middle and you know what you got to play the hand that you're dealt not everybody you know this life is in a


01:00:56 board game you know I know life is a board game but you know real life's not a board game you don't all start at the same spot some people start here some people start you know damn near like at the Finish Line it is what it is you just got to accept that I think once people accept that they'll start to figure start figuring things out yeah no it is I've thought about getting into politics and should having that conversation of you know look and I I I do have sympathy and compassion and empathy for people that are going


01:01:23 through tough times I was raised without a lot of money I understand that I got in trouble when I was 20 years old made a made a mistake paid for it uh and I could have used that as oh poor me I got locked up I have a felony on my record I can't do anything it's like no or I can say that was the best thing that ever happened to me it changed my life I'm grateful for it and I'm glad I went through the experience because it made me who I am today you know but we don't teach Society those type of things we


01:01:49 teach them to be victims you know I look at like the the Democrat Party right now and I was more left on social issues you know uh I would have been considered left on a lot of social issues 10 years ago now I haven't really changed much and the whole thing has changed right right um but you know the Democrat Party now to me it's the party of victims it's you know they applaud when someone is oppressed oh poor you and and that completely dewers them because they become a slave to whatever circumstance


01:02:20 it was that they that caused them to to be that way yeah if you list your mental issues and you flaunt that as a good thing I mean you're completely off the you're completely off the ball that's what a lot of them do I mean you know they they they take pride in being plus-sized you know I'm fat too but [ __ ] I don't like you know keep losing weight but you're not saying it's healthy right right exactly like why why would you brag about having borderline personality disorder like why basically it's like


01:02:47 look I can be a pretentious prick because I'm this it's like you're right it it is a lot of that and you know Republicans are you know 10 years behind it they'll be the same way in 10 years and Democrats will be even more crazy yeah I think that's that's where the fight uh to me is in society is is getting people out of that mindset because if you if you can make people personally responsible I mean you Empower them they're going to do more they're going to realize hey it's up to me to make something of myself not


01:03:14 anybody else I can't put this on my mom or my dad or my teachers or this person I consider racist or this person I considered sexist or this person that that doesn't uh respect my pronouns or whatever the hell it is uh and Empower themselves like if Society I I do feel like we can make this change in our country because you know when people hear it they're like oh yeah oh yeah but because you have such a loud uh megaphone going on over you know the victim mentality uh people think that's normal that's not normal yeah we just


01:03:47 need to remove the trampoline when people jump off the window and you know it's going to take a great reset um I the way I look at it is if you're a drugie let him die I'm sorry like I there's just I think there's a fentol crisis because I don't think it's because of the cartels I don't think it's because of the Chinese I don't think it's because of whatever Jew money is being poured into it it's because people are doing fenol it's amazing how I've avoided the F you know there's a quote unquote fentanyl Christ and I live


01:04:15 in like a border state it's completely avoided me because I just don't do Fentanyl people we just live in a consequence-free society and people just need to you know they need to fall and splatter on the ground in order to get their stuff together but cuz but they're just so used to like I have my video games I have my porn it doesn't even matter you know if I just don't do anything I'll have the bare minimum to survive anyway that needs to stop and I think that's the biggest issue we have yeah I mean well fentel in a lot of


01:04:40 other things though too I think that's you know you've had such an increase in death I know yeah three people in Nashville uh that have died doing cocaine that had fentanyl uh so it wasn't like they actually going out to you know uh do fentel and I'm not saying they should be out doing C either I'm just saying that there is those circumstances where um it's not you know that stuff's being put in a lot of different stuff well it's like having sex and then but I used a condom and I got pregnant what the heck it's I just


01:05:16 you know if people continue in self-destructive behaviors whether it's drug usage and whether it's uh playing video games all day there's just there needs to be a consequence for it well yeah and you know sometimes death can and my thing is I don't I don't disagree in the sense that you people have to you know they chose to do cocaine and that happens there's bad things that happen there are uh consequences to you know specific actions we can't cuddle Society though into uh you know this oh you poor


01:05:49 thing and you know it that doesn't work I think there's a balance so I'm a little more compassionate with the with the drug addict I've worked with a lot of drug drug addi and you know a lot of them are good people and a lot of them are you know in a way a slave to their addiction yeah uh at the same time I I share the they got to take responsibility aspect of of it and you know but but there's a balance because Society at least in America has moved so far over to this giant victim mentality that it we've we've lost the ability to


01:06:21 have kind of a middle ground uh because it's so far it's so far gone you almost have to have the Other Extreme to say y'all are all [ __ ] crazy and you know you want to fight yeah yeah I mean that's kind of where you know kind of where we're at no we definitely need some right-wing extremism for sure I mean like there I think it's starting to kind of move the other way a way I can kind of gauge it it's like a I have a really simple method I use just Instagram comments like you go to like these cookie cutter


01:06:49 Pages like where it's like TMZ or whatever uh cheese. news or whatever um you can see a few years ago there would just be like so many comments like oh my God he said that word or oh my God how could he say this but now now the comments like anytime somebody's like acting like a little loser just the comments are quote unquote ratioing them now and so I'm starting to see a shift a little bit it's not going as fast as I'd like it to but it's sure it's surely not where it was three years ago I think


01:07:16 it's going slightly in a better Direction yeah well now we can actually talk about uh we can give push back publicly without having a right exactly mob attack us exact um I mean during Co I was one of the first to speak out against the whole the whole uh thing I mean March 20120 I was I was already like hey this is [ __ ] uh to it yeah I ran numbers on the um there was a cruise ship MH that the whole cruise ship you know got covid and I don't think there was one I forget this is 2020 but I don't think anybody


01:07:49 died or there was it was all by age group that the severe accounts were happening and and um body uh body mass those type of things and I thought wait a second if you just run these numbers this is a large enough uh group that you can pretty much predict what's going to happen or have a better idea than what they're saying at first they're like 4.2% chance of of death you know and like 1% and then it turns out to be like 0.029 but right you know uh and you know but the mob then uh would just I mean I was anti


01:08:26 well I own a hospital I have the largest stem cell company in the world like I actually have a vaccine lab and I'll explain it to you it's a uh for cancer vaccines um and uh um so but I got called an antivaxer uh which is really wild because I'm like no well this vaccine is it's it is experimental it's not ready for Prime Time i' had been working with mRNA uh in some facet since 2017 and what they did screwed up all the legit research Arch uh with it for cancer vaccines because they made this you know they wrapped the uh mRNA in a


01:09:02 lipid nanop particle and they say oh it's ready for five billion people well if you're stage four metastatic cancer and you're trying this new treatment and you're going to die from your cancer for sure uh then there is a risk involved that we can say well there is a risk CU we don't know and blah blah blah blah that's fair to me but to mass marketing to you know billions and billions of people uh as a safe and effective drug or a vaccine that one stops the spread of covid oh you can't get covid and then


01:09:38 they kept it was obvious but um you know society that was a start truly I think of our just the mass hysteria that we're seeing right now yeah I it's definitely been different since covid my thing with the vaccine is you know you said in March 2020 you were against all this stuff I started being against it may 2020 I was I was two months a little bit too late from you um cuz you know I was delivering pizza at the time and I I remember I called my mom on the phone hysterical I'm like they're don't even


01:10:05 give me a mask to deliver pizza and how could they do this to me and I was like oh that's funny then I just then I ended up getting a mask and I'm like wait a second I just didn't wear it I'm like um I'll be fine and it just like took two seconds later wait a second I'm I'm I'm going crazy here what's going on but I always thought that you know the virus wasn't going to be the one that's going to be the mass death event it's going to be this vaccine they come out with I was dude 20-year-old Alex called that one


01:10:25 but but you know and with with fizer you know I don't know the lipid Nano particles that's way above my thinking grade I mean that's that's why you're in this Mansion I'm in like a rental house right now but like um with fizer just common sense to me they have the biggest criminal fine in history for lying about test results and that was only N9 years before they came out with the vaccine so the way I look at it is these same people saying trust fizer now would also say well the sex offender only molested


01:10:51 this kid 10 years ago he's changed let him babysit your kids now that's the way I look at it and um yeah so for that reason I declined the vaccine yeah yeah no me too me too um my mom and dad got it and we discussed it as a family and it was hard decision for me because I knew there were risks but um my mom has some major health issues too and it's like okay she gets covid you know it's going to be um it's going to be bad and um so she did it and it reactivated her ratory arthritis and we knew that going in we talked to her um


01:11:25 rheumatologist about it going in and said hey you know oh no there's not a chance I'm like no no there is a chance we're going to make this decision based on but but I can't be mad I can take responsibility we made a very well-informed decision right right it didn't what we thought was possible to happen bad actually happened right and I you know so I'm okay with that if that makes sense but you know it's being able to have those honest conversations and letting people make decisions based on knowledge not being like Oh you're antix


01:11:57 or you're this or that you know uh I thought for the older age group with all the data I thought it it did make sense in some cases um most cases actually because most people over 65 aren't extremely healthy if someone was a super healthy 65 plus you know that's that would have been fine actually right right but um most people you know are pretty sick by their time they're 65 these days do you still think that uh people over 65 should have should have taken it uh I do yeah I do and gosh I have but I'm not


01:12:29 sure I have to say that too like we've been lied to so much and I read the data I I mean I I know it pretty pretty well um and you know getting some antigen response in the body seems to uh slow the the brunt of covid I think there's risks with it though why I wouldn't you know I would never take it I would never want kids to take it or you know my best friend died of Co um 42 years old had um he's really really heavy guy smoker as well and I was worried I said Adam I I think you should probably get it man you know I don't


01:13:11 really like it um I was very publicly against it in many ways but I was also reasonable you know sure and it was a tough you know and he didn't do it and then he died it was brutal so I don't know man the honest answer is I don't know M uh we've been lied to so much I'm torn about it honestly I want to say the you know you know I don't I I'm trying to do the right thing with those thoughts but you know I I think probably 65 and up it saved a lot of lives I think if I were in politics um like if I were the mayor of


01:13:44 Nashville the governor of Tennessee when Trump did the shutdown for two weeks I would have said no way you know Society you make the choice we're a free Society if you want to sh on your business do it it probably it probably is safer for every body if you do that but we're not forcing you to do it uh absolutely no vaccine mandates um at the very least actually no I would have done no vaccine mandat but I we would have talked very openly about natural immunity if you already had covid you're good 27 times


01:14:13 more effective than the vaccine those are the conversations we would been having rather than the polarizing you're either antiva or VX or whatever if that makes sense no absolutely and I don't think I don't there's like single governor in the country that actually took that stance um you know DeSantis a little bit you know my governor in Texas he wasn't too you know pushy with the vaccines but yeah there was really no Governor that just came out and said natural immunity is like the like there was really none that just was like kind


01:14:41 of what we're saying now like at all so yeah they're all just kind of uh puppeteered a little bit I think they were well and like you know they don't have a science uh background or healthare background and man the healthare system was so it was Hardcore dude I mean even I had to be somewhat careful because of what I do and like you know I want to make sure that whatever I say is accurate and so and not make not making claims so as it was going on you know I would have conversations with my scientists that I work with one of them


01:15:19 is the former Chief of infectious disease and imog genetics for NIH so these are BigTime scientists and we have reasonable debates I don't necessarily disagree with his thought process either if that makes sense but we couldn't do that publicly I I wanted to hear those conversations publicly yeah because what we were dealing with was public health it this wasn't science it was public health and public health it set up to lie to people to get them to do things yeah and they just lied to us I mean


01:15:46 these people running stuff are their master manipulators and psychologists I mean that's really that's really who runs the government is just psychologist pretty much um yeah it def it definitely created definitely created a big divide but I think Co on the other hand also exposed um that the government is not to be trusted at all and if they do something good celebrate the good but still do not trust these people and but I think I I think Co definitely shifted my view of it's the elites it's the Elite's fault


01:16:16 verse it's okay we need to be the ones to say no to this we can't just blame the CLA Schwabs of the world and so I don't know it definitely changed a lot of people's thought process for the good or for the good or bad for the better for worse you know yeah and it it uh it showed me you you always wonder like during um you know the 1940s uh how the German soldiers like allowed people to go in the concentration camps and treated people like that and it showed me how quickly Society can turn on you you know for having a different


01:16:51 view there some people that have have crucified me people people now like oh it was nobody really knew and you can't be upside like no no no you didn't get the messages that I got wishing me death you know for uh you know want they said oh you want everybody to die by pushing them away from the vaccine and I'm like I have a lot of nuance in my thought too I'm clearly not an antivaxer but I you know I think it was a bunch of [ __ ] and they would have they wanted me to die if you didn't get a vaccine they


01:17:19 wanted you to die yeah they they almost wanted you to die to just be correct yes and I'm not going Li that happened on the on the antiac side too like there's definitely people that you know started basically doing a virtual teabag saying oh yeah uh told you it was the vaccine and dude it's it really just goes down to human nature humans are very Pride very prideful species and even at the expense of human life people are still like I'd rather be right than see you alive and that's a pretty crazy thought


01:17:48 process to have right which I think [ __ ] maybe I'm a little bit guilty of it sometimes too and I try not to be but you know I'm not going to lie I'm I'm fallible so so yeah no we we all are man and uh yeah when I got Co I saw Rogan do a comedy SK or you know his comedy show talking about it but I felt the same way when he said I'm like oh yeah when I got Co I like I better not die of this [ __ ] the the memes you know the jokes will be for days if I die of Co here you know but Co was serious for you know


01:18:17 people died my best friend died um you know it was probably a bioweapon you know it was made in a lab that was other thing you know if you said oh it was made in the Wuhan lab you were considered racist for a time yeah yeah no I mean that's that's my thing with the vaccine too the same people yeah I'm sure it was made in the Wuhan lab but I mean we our grimy government definitely had our hands in that crap too for sure of course like they it is just the it is a Satan Playbook they start the problem


01:18:49 they offer the solution and you know it's it's just it's it's just good cop bad cop to me is what it is you know like when I tell the pedos I like to tell them to get them to admit to stuff like child porn they always admit to something incriminating but not as severe as what it really is it's like hey uh did you did you make that child porn yourself or did somebody just send it to you either way whatever they say if they say if they answer that question they're incriminating themselves they always say oh but uh somebody uh


01:19:15 somebody sent it to me but you know it's the same way with politics that's what that's what I look at Trump trump and Biden as or Trump and Harris as it's good cop bad cop if you choose one of them you're just choosing you know cons you're Cho Ching a snake to come around your neck that's that's the way I look at it so yeah I have hope for Trump so I I would I didn't support him in 2016 uh I mean what I see from Trump is he he lies a lot you know it's like a lot of lies and but I've started but I've


01:19:40 gotten over that over the years because I'm like you know what I just kind of know now what he's going to say and I would consider his lies a lot are exaggerations yes yes so there's a little difference to that to me um and I saw how the entire system the the Deep State attacked him in every way between the Russia Scandal and then you know after after he uh Co I I think this is this is my conspiracy theory but I think they put Co out there to make sure Trump didn't get reelected maybe I mean what are the


01:20:17 odds March of 2020 right before he was winning in all of the polls he was going to win in a landslide and they had this you know novel virus out of a lab that was made in Wuhan that was funded by the NIH that was funded by the people working working directly with fouchy you had Peter uh was it Peter dashik and um I forget the the Eco Health Alliance guy so it's it's it's obvious to me that there was some type of conspiracy in there now was it did they really release it to get them out office I don't know


01:20:55 about that but you know we weren't told the truth and what are the odds well I kind of think Trump is a figure that's kind of meant to make conservatives more complacent um because look when Biden's been in office you're more outspoken than I think you were back then right or at least it's more accepted to be outspoken a lot more people are outspoken about just kind of a leftist new world order lunacy when Biden's in office right because it's it's just see it firsthand but you know the country still moved more left under Trump he


01:21:24 didn't really con anything and when Trump gets in you know I I notic A lot of people are like you see it all the time it's like no no no when Trump gets in everything's going to be fixed the swamp is going to be drained and then people are just like okay my part's done I'm just going to let Trump do it and I think you know he makes a lot of conservative sitting ducks and I think that's a big issue I mean just look at all these states like now [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] kids are banned in 25 different


01:21:48 states now and that was Biden in office you know what I'm saying I I think there's more of a fire under our ass when someone like Biden's in office and and I I I think Trump makes people a little bit too docile and that's what makes me worry about him interesting yeah um yeah my thought with with Trump is I I don't like his rhetoric uh I think it divides people I like a lot of his policy yeah I mean I I really I love the the tax cuts that he did uh I was actually against the trade war with China but I I've changed my position I


01:22:21 think he was right now it actually did good I don't really like trade Wars like free trade you know but yeah it was it's so unfair to us because you know the more I thought about that concept of free trade only works if it's free all the way around not if they're getting a way better deal than than we're getting right and so you know I like that I thought he did good with Criminal Justice Reform um I like that he didn't didn't get us into Wars um that's good for sure I mean so there's a lot of good


01:22:45 you know uh that he did um the Abraham Accords you know that's he if it were any other president he would have won a Nobel Peace Prize definitely and so those are the kind of things that I look at and and then I look at like the last month I'm like ready to be like Trump what are you doing just shut up it's his race to lose it's not it wouldn't be he just got shot in the head and yelled fight fight fight which one of the coolest things I've ever seen and then you know he starts talking about Cala


01:23:16 being an Indian and black and it's like dude you're not going to gain your job right now is to gain votes you know you have to you have to get people to support you the people that are already supporting you you're not going to gain anybody new by saying that the people that are already supporting you are already supporting you and you're just going to push people away by that yeah it's an it's an it's really an interesting uh it's an interesting campaign to watch like I mean I I feel like Mr me with no experience in


01:23:45 politics can run this campaign better than whoever's doing it can I mean it just seems I mean it is just um shooting himself in the foot over and over again over and over I don't think it's the people running it I think Trump is just uncontrollable can you imagine like we're we're out with Trump we're like okay we want you to go out there you're going to say this and don't answer this question and you know and he goes out there and does just the opposite right I that's got to be what he's doing because


01:24:06 his advisers aren't telling him to go do this [ __ ] right that makes sense that makes sense yeah just um it's going to be November's for sure going to be interesting but I would bet um good money that Trump's going to win though I I think he's going to get in fingers crossed fingers crossed I mean I don't know if he can say we already have so much debt you pointed out that he raised a Deb equal to Obama yeah more than him yeah I mean the co thing was at the very end and he did have a plan the following


01:24:31 four years to cut it was like part of his deal or he's going to spend and cut I don't know we'll see this time if he wins if he does that but I I'm so with you on that I mean all the Republicans that get into office they just raise the debt just like the Democrats do right and it's BS yeah there's there's truly no conservative party in in the US at all and yeah I mean I like I like to I like to sandis in the primary but man he just he just seems like one of those people that would absolutely go to war


01:24:59 for Israel and that I I don't think he's as a I don't think he's as um America first or like how do I put it just very I don't think he's as anti-war as we'd like him to be so to me that's like a deal breaker too if you're going to like send troops to go die in a country 5,000 miles away then yeah unvote unelectable to me it were the hills that got me him wearing the heels I'm just like I I don't I just don't know you know well he's just the most Progressive Republican there is he he he saw Trump holding the LGBT flag


01:25:27 so Des Sand's like I'm going to wear heels and be even more gay yeah that's funny um you had a confrontation with uh Peter hotz my best friend yeah how did that go about oh well the day before we were both in a room and they were giving us our script to kind of go do no I'm just kidding just kidding but um yeah so so I had seen some clips of Peter hotz and I was told he lives in Houston me and my friend Marissa Hansen she's a journalist in Houston um she's pretty camera shy but she's on Twitter she's


01:25:56 awesome very sweet lady and she's uh she does an unreal amount of research if you're on her bad side I wouldn't want to be on her bad side like she'd find [ __ ] on me I didn't even know about myself I'm sure but um you know she kind of uh told me he lived in Houston and I was like really cuz I seen these clips of him just being like a little fat little fouchy and I saw that he 15 minutes from my house and I'm like no freaking way so I hit up Marissa I'm like yeah let's go confront him and just totally by chance when we're


01:26:27 pulling up to his place it's like a gated it's like a it's like a twostory like condo type gated thing coincidentally like I have no idea why he was just walking back home like he was just out and about CU there's no way we would have been able to knock on his door and that's when we just like ran out of the car like I was in my socks still like I didn't even get my shoes on I was like a screw we got to go now and um yeah I mean like you could see the video I was so like I was like I was trying to G myself cuz I wasn't


01:26:55 expecting it to go that quick but um yeah obviously he gave a bunch of non- answers and you know I can get a pedo to admit to molesting a one-year-old but get Peter hotz to agree to a debate [ __ ] that's beyond me so yeah now that guy is it's wild the stuff that that he says he's insane you know he was on Rogan at first and um you know Rogan at the very beginning was very afraid of Co um and what I always appreciate Joe is if he he's open to changing his mind he he changed his mind and he like imagine the


01:27:27 world without Joe Rogan right now yeah I mean oh absolutely you know gosh he has he's kept a conversation going um of of freedom and you know he was a Bernie Sanders supporter that's what people don't realize like he's not right no not but he's open-minded I I you know I've known Joe for 25 years and I don't you know I love the way he thinks I really do it's uh he's very very open-minded and reasonable dude very reason aable dudee very reasonable um but you know you saw hotz on on that show and you see


01:28:00 him afterwards and uh when Joe changed his course yeah and you know just seeing this weasel go out and Yeah vaccinate the kids and vaccinate everybody and mandate the vaccination oh that compilation of Peter hotz just saying yeah guys we're going to need a we're going to need a one vaccine no now it's a two vaccines now it's a three vaccines God man just what a a he he makes me very angry yeah I hate that dude so much yeah he's one of those he's one of those guys giving him a wedgie in school talk about yeah you


01:28:39 called out Dan khaw too yes how how did that go God finding all my old clips from a couple years ago um well Dan khaw is somebody who used his veteran status to just Swoon a bunch of dumb middle-aged white women into voting for him without them kind of looking at his actual policies there's a guy running against him he runs against him every two years it's like you know it's like a ritual at this point um Jameson Ellis he seems to be getting closer and closer each year and he seems to be more legit


01:29:07 than khaw at least but you know Dan khaw is part of the world economic Forum he was on the world economic forum's young global leaders and he's voted for a lot of um you know Rhino stuff like Ukraine funding and this and that like he's not as conservative as he claims to be he's not the conservative that a lot of people say is and for that uh we called him out and um he just kind of smiled and didn't want to address any of it oh man yeah you also called out uh Hillary yes absolutely well I was doing a pedo


01:29:38 cach when I called her out wait you're doing a what oh I was just confronting a pedo oh who's that bill no Hillary Clinton oh Hillary I haven't heard of this one so so tell me tell me about that well um so it was a Sheila Jackson Lee event you know who Sheila Jackson Lee is no um she like the uh she'd be like the number one Congress lady ever in Houston like she's been representing like Third Ward which is a pretty historically black neighborhood for like the past 30 she she just passed away but for like the


01:30:06 past 30 40 years totally just a total just you know just the same name just voting for over and over again just one of those and um but you know I I get all the text like you know I got I got Tim Walls blowing up my phone with his like 30 number whatever I got all the notifications um but I saw that Hillary was speaking at this event 10 minutes from my house for Sheila Jackson Lee and I'm like oh no way I don't go to this so you know people always you know I've never seen anybody call out Hillary


01:30:37 about Bill Clinton's relation I've seen one video of someone calling out Bill Clinton to his face which was awesome I think it was Taylor Hansen or somebody like that but it was awesome and I wanted to call it Hillary because I want to see what these people say like it's so easy to say oh you funded this or whatever but just call them a pedo to their face see what happens and so when Hillary's speaking I'm like why did Bill visit Epi Island 26 times and the whole crowd without even listening to what I


01:31:02 just said they just started chanting Sheila Jackson Lee's name even though she's not even the one speaking and you know so I I started getting I start getting dragged out and oh my God and you talk about blending into a rally like that I've been thrown out of so many Texas Democrat rallies because you know I'm 6'4 they know who I am at this point so I wore a hat that said I have autism and I wore a mask I wore a mask and I wore a gay pride shirt and funny how it just Blends in there right like so you know I was just acting like a


01:31:31 total spaz beforehand I was just sitting down like this just looking like total sped like one of the event organizers came like paded me on the back like you know cuz I I was having anxiety and um so then Hillary speaks and I start getting dragged out they grab me by my shirt and you know what I to do at the rallies is I always just like fall on the ground I'm like if you're going to drag drag my 300 lb ass out you're going to drag me out dude I'm not I'm not going to resist but I'm not going to


01:31:54 give into it either so they were ripping off my shirt and then I stick up a thumbs up and dude every inch I was being dragged I'm like oh my God 10,000 more views 10,000 more views viral video and I'm like and oh my God it was so great dude they gave me exactly what I wanted and except for answering the question but it was so great dude that's awesome yeah yeah it's got to that's got to be an adrenalin rush calling out Hillary like that I mean that's super my heart was out of my freaking heart but


01:32:21 oh and speaking of that so afterwards the Secret Service guy comes up to me thickest Chinese accent you'll ever hear I'm like bro talk about the Chinese being pretty pretty far in our government he's like hello I want to get some information from you and I'm just like no bro and I just walk off like screw that dude yeah that's funny yeah man well yeah thanks for thanks for doing that you know takes takes uh Big Balls go after go after Hillary and Bill um and uh you know but it's very very good points man it's like why was was he


01:32:55 on that plane 26 times or you know why you know why why do you have a relationship why why does Epstein have a painting of Bill in a dress in the dress I mean it's it's it's it's insane how like you know talk about Biden molesting his 5-year-old daughter Bill Clinton being like that should be a deal breaker to just not vote for any of them it's crazy it should be it should be I mean the whole Biden thing I read the the journal and you know it's hard I I mean I do hear you it's hard for me to jump to a


01:33:30 conclusion completely because I don't know the context right those are the type of things I'm a little more cautious about I totally get it but it's also like okay you know I don't I don't know I don't I don't know it makes sense but you know Bill Clinton I mean that's those are some obvious ones and uh man I do I I appreciate people like you I mean all that you're doing dude you're you're a good human you're making a difference and you know it's this is what we need we need people to stand up fight for


01:33:58 what they believe is right you know use their voice you know admit when we're wrong that's another one though we get so stuck in our ways yeah acknowledged I screwed up here and move forward that's what I miss about Trump I wish Trump would just say I'm sorry or I shouldn't have done this and move forward rather than you know just covering it all like never admitting you're wrong it's so the bar is so low for me to vote for him yeah no I'm I I totally get that actually uh you know I love RFK too and


01:34:25 actually uh Bobby thei thiri and um uh Kyle who's Justin Trudeau's brother they stayed over here about four weeks ago during the Bitcoin conference no way and uh got interesting stories with Kyle but um you know I love you know I love how they've been pushing RFK has been pushing this health meage oh yeah for sure and I think that him dropping out and you know supporting Trump I mean can you imagine uh RFK as the as the head of the FDA or health and human services that would be awesome that that


01:35:00 definitely um that that that's pretty hope that definitely gives me a lot of Hope um for sure I mean I'm still I still don't have high expectations for anybody but like definitely better than um the Admiral himself uh running it dick LaVine so yeah that's a wild one too my God yeah this is the the picture of Health that we want running our country right come on come on but well thank you so much for coming in than for me I really appreciate I would love to maybe do a bus with you sometime oh absolutely that be a lot of fun we


01:35:33 actually got a guy on the hook here we're not going to get him today because I don't have my whole crew with me but we got a guy here in suar in Hendersonville to go get so uh let's exchange phone number they'll hit you up absolutely absolutely if do you have any law enforcement out there in suar County yeah we do have an arrest in Hendersonville so yeah okay perfect well then you don't need any help so uh but yeah I'd love to go check it out and uh um anything that that I can do for you guys moving forward happy to happy to


01:36:00 support well I'd say you know Tennessee is one of those states that I was talking about where it has to be um where it has to be law enforcement on the other side so the our guy in suer county that we caught he was convicted of uh molesting a six-year-old his name was oh God damn it I'm forgetting his name something Gilliam gillium or something like that but we got him arrested for child pornography but yeah I mean we've had so many in Tennessee where they don't have child porn they just have to walk free so that law


01:36:29 definitely needs to be changed here so do you know Robbie Starbuck I do I do yeah I met them in person once they're awesome but that needs to be pushed man cuz I mean there's so many pedos that walk free in Tennessee cuz that [ __ ] [ __ ] well I mean yeah uh you know Robbie lives in Franklin he's a good friend and we actually launched his Congressional Campaign here at the house oh that's such years ago unrelated that's another reason I can't stand Trump how the [ __ ] do you not Robbie starbu it should have been so obvious


01:36:56 for Trump to endorse him but yeah well they the Republican Party kicked him off the ballot that's why he lost he was winning in all the polls that's such and uh but I think he's making a big difference doing like right now he's T he took out like Tractor Supply Dei he got Harley-Davidson Dei Lowe's he just messaged him I read today he messaged them and they said we're stopping all this before he even went super public with it so like Robbie Starbucks like doing a a damn good job I'm I'm I'm proud of that dude that guy's he's got


01:37:25 uh a great family he does doesn't need to do any of this stuff and he just makes a difference so yeah know him and Landon are very sweet they're awesome great people yeah well thank you so much and uh maybe we'll uh do this again in about a year and see updates yeah hell yeah thanks